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=Discussion about |
=Discussion about MusicBrainz wiki categories= |
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==Purpose== |
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There are two issues here. The first thing is general: What Categories do we need, are they good the way they are... The second relates to the [[Big Mess|BigMess]] of pages that deal with 'moderating issues'. Those probably need to be rearranged before we can give them meaningful Categories. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] |
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What Categories do we need, are they good the way they are? Which ones should be proposed in [[Wiki Categories|WikiCategories]]? |
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==Listing and discussion of current categories== |
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===Categories now in WikiCategories=== |
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==General Listing and Discussion of Categories== |
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*-- Personal pages. These are important, because they backlink to all the pages a person has edited. So please create a personal page and sign your edits with your [[Wiki Name|WikiName]]. |
*-- Personal pages of [[WikiZen]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s and [[MusicBrainz Contributor|MusicBrainzContributor]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. These are important, because they backlink to all the pages a person has edited. So please create a personal page and sign your edits with your [[Wiki Name|WikiName]]. |
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**-- This Category groups all pages that are official biographies of the [[People Behind MusicBrainz|PeopleBehindMusicBrainz]] |
**-- This Category groups all pages that are official biographies of the [[People Behind MusicBrainz|PeopleBehindMusicBrainz]] |
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**-- This Category groups all pages about [[MusicBrainz]] developers. |
**-- This Category groups all pages about [[MusicBrainz]] developers. |
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**-- For the official pages describing the accepted style guidelines. |
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*-- For [[MusicBrainz]] documentation being developed on the Wiki. |
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===Categories needing discussion=== |
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====Full list==== |
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*-- For pages about [[MusicBrainz]] features and implementation. This one is getting huge. Maybe we should split it. |
*-- For pages about [[MusicBrainz]] features and implementation. This one is getting huge. Maybe we should split it. |
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*-- For discussion threads. Pages will often be in this and some other category. |
*-- For discussion threads. Pages will often be in this and some other category. |
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*-- For additional info pages that someday may go into the database. |
*-- For additional info pages that someday may go into the database. |
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*-- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the style guidelines |
* [[Image:Checkmark.png]] <small>-- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the style guidelines </small> |
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**-- Pages that deal with [[Series Style Guideline|SeriesStyleGuideline]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. |
**-- Pages that deal with [[Series Style Guideline|SeriesStyleGuideline]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Should we really keep this one? There are 3 pages in this category. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 13:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*-- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the editing process & guidelines. |
*-- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the editing process & guidelines. |
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**-- This Category is for pages that explain the various stati an Edit may have during its lifetime. |
**-- This Category is for pages that explain the various stati an Edit may have during its lifetime. |
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**-- This Category groups all pages about [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. |
**-- This Category groups all pages about [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. |
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*-- For [[MusicBrainz]] documentation being developed on the Wiki. |
* [[Image:Checkmark.png]] <small>-- For [[MusicBrainz]] documentation being developed on the Wiki.</small> |
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**-- For explanations of terminology like [[Disc ID|DiscID]], [[Artist Sort Name|ArtistSortName]], etc. |
**-- For explanations of terminology like [[Disc ID|DiscID]], [[Artist Sort Name|ArtistSortName]], etc. |
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**-- This is a list of [[How To|HowTo]]'s automatically created from [[Back Link|BackLink]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s to this page. For a more structured overview and instructions on how to add new pages, see [[How To|HowTo]] |
**-- This is a list of [[How To|HowTo]]'s automatically created from [[Back Link|BackLink]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s to this page. For a more structured overview and instructions on how to add new pages, see [[How To|HowTo]] |
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*-- For pages with descriptions of other related software, resources, or external links. |
*-- For pages with descriptions of other related software, resources, or external links. |
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**-- This Category is for pages that deal with the applications which use the [[MusicBrainz]] data, but are not maintained by the [[MusicBrainz]] developers. See the Products page if you want to learn about the [[MusicBrainz]] products. |
**-- This Category is for pages that deal with the applications which use the [[MusicBrainz]] data, but are not maintained by the [[MusicBrainz]] developers. See the Products page if you want to learn about the [[MusicBrainz]] products. |
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*-- For metadiscussion about this Wiki. |
*-- For metadiscussion, tasks about this Wiki. |
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* and of course, which includes all of the above, plus any which aren't yet listed here. |
* and of course, which includes all of the above, plus any which aren't yet listed here. |
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**-- Indexpages just collect pages that deal with a specific topic without that topic being discussed on the page itself. Please keep in mind that a [[Wiki Is A Flat Hierarchy|WikiIsAFlatHierarchy]]. That means that pages can be listed on several indices. Indexpages form nothing like a directory tree but are mere clusters for topics. |
**-- Indexpages just collect pages that deal with a specific topic without that topic being discussed on the page itself. Please keep in mind that a [[Wiki Is A Flat Hierarchy|WikiIsAFlatHierarchy]]. That means that pages can be listed on several indices. Indexpages form nothing like a directory tree but are mere clusters for topics. |
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**-- Pages that have a philosophical viewpoint. |
**-- Pages that have a philosophical viewpoint. |
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**-- This Category groups all pages that deal with lists of stuff to do. |
**-- This Category groups all pages that deal with lists of stuff to do. |
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**-- This Category groups all pages kept for historical purposes (Discussion, Proposal, ...). |
**-- This Category groups all pages kept for historical purposes (Discussion, Proposal, ...). |
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*: There are only 3 pages in this category.should be sufficient. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 13:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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There are many pages in the Wiki that deal with "moderating issues". But moderating is [[Bad Terminology|BadTerminology]] and "Issues" is a bad [[Wiki Name|WikiName]], hence we end up with a [[Big Mess|BigMess]]. [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] didn't know how to name these pages or what category to assign to them. [[User:TarragonAllen|TarragonAllen]] proposed that we create an [[Editing Guideline|EditingGuideline]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s page to organize them, and [[User:Dupuy|Dupuy]] createdto categorize them. However, there are still pages in the the [[Big Mess|BigMess]] for which those suggestions aren't right, because sometimes they blur into development, style or [[Frequently Asked Questions|FrequentlyAskedQuestions]]. |
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*: we should not maintain wiki page for external software but rather link to an external page |
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There are still pages likein the Wiki. They were part of a (rather ugly but well meant) hack by [[User:Dupuy|Dupuy]]. I deleted the whole set of pages because it breaks the. Categories are very straightforward and easy to understand if there are no hacks around them. People do not even need an explanation on how to create categories, they just look at how a category page works. That is enough. If they write a page they can just add a category at the bottom, whether it already exists or not. This simplicity is quite important to the Wiki, because like this the categories are easily kept up to date. |
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So now this page links to all categories although it is truly of. I think we can live with that. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I can live with the simpler category pages, but despite what [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] says, it's not enough to "just add a category at the bottom, whether it already exists or not" since the category page must exist in order to search for pages in that category. Furthermore, unless the category page is inand linked from this page, it's not that likely to be used for searching by anyone. [[User:Dupuy|@alex]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I've also found an even uglier hack for preventing backlinks; you can use a URL link like [http:?CandidateForDeletion CandidateForDeletion] (<code><nowiki>[http:?CandidateForDeletion CandidateForDeletion]</nowiki></code>) and no backlink will be generated. While far more hideous than the other scheme, it doesn't require any special knowledge by those who want to use categories in the normal way. [[User:Dupuy|@alex]] |
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==Ad-hoc/Pseudo Categories== |
==Ad-hoc/Pseudo Categories== |
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I've got to wonder if it's possible to produce a flat (or better yet hierachical) list of categories (as above) automatically. It would certainly be easier to keep up-to-date than a hand-edited list... perhaps a script that watches for edits on Category.*, pulls the description, and updates/adds the list? Please [[Answer Me|AnswerMe]]. -- [[User:MartinRudat|MartinRudat]] 08:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
I've got to wonder if it's possible to produce a flat (or better yet hierachical) list of categories (as above) automatically. It would certainly be easier to keep up-to-date than a hand-edited list... perhaps a script that watches for edits on Category.*, pulls the description, and updates/adds the list? Please [[Answer Me|AnswerMe]]. -- [[User:MartinRudat|MartinRudat]] 08:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
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[[Category:Person]] [[Category:Bio]] [[Category:Developer]] [[Category:Products]] [[Category:Server]] [[Category:Database]] [[Category:Download]] [[Category:Picard]] [[Category:Style]] [[Category:Official Style]] [[Category:Proposed Style]] [[Category:Style Council]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:FAQ]] [[Category:Label]] [[Category:Annotation]] [[Category:Edit Types]] [[Category:WikiDocs Page]] [[Category:Textfragment]] [[Category:Affiliate]] [[Category:Moderator Language]] [[Category:Communication Forum]] [[Category:Mailing List]] [[Category:Development]] [[Category:Proposal]] [[Category:Proposed Style]] [[Category:Discussion]] [[Category:Metadata]] [[Category:Style]] [[Category:Series Style]] [[Category:Editing]] [[Category:Edit Status]] [[Category:Advanced Relationships]] [[Category:Proposed Advanced Relationship Type]] [[Category:Relationship Attributes]] [[Category:Relationship Classes]] [[Category:Relationship Type]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:Terminology]] [[Category:How To]] [[Category:External]] [[Category:Software]] [[Category:Wiki]] [[Category:Category]] [[Category:Index]] [[Category:Philosophy]] [[Category:To Do List]] [[Category:History]] [[Category:Terminology]] [[Category:Wiki Terminology]] [[Category:History]] [[Category:Past Product]] [[Category:Past Proposal]] [[Category:To Do List]] [[Category:Series Style]] [[Category:Style]] [[Category:Software]] [[Category:Wiki]] |
Revision as of 13:58, 30 April 2007
Discussion about MusicBrainz wiki categories
Purpose
What Categories do we need, are they good the way they are? Which ones should be proposed in WikiCategories?
Listing and discussion of current categories
Categories now in WikiCategories
- -- Personal pages of WikiZen
s and MusicBrainzContributor
s. These are important, because they backlink to all the pages a person has edited. So please create a personal page and sign your edits with your WikiName.
- -- This Category groups all pages that are official biographies of the PeopleBehindMusicBrainz
- -- This Category groups all pages about MusicBrainz developers.
- -- This Category groups all MusicBrainz Products.
- -- This Category groups all pages that deal with the MusicBrainz Server.
- -- This Category groups all pages that deal with the MusicBrainz Database.
- -- This Category groups all pages that provide download links for MusicBrainz Products.
- -- This Category groups all pages about PicardTagger
- -- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the style guidelines.
- -- For the official pages describing the accepted style guidelines.
- -- Pages that deal with proposed StyleGuideline's.
- -- Pages that deal with the StyleCouncil.
- -- For MusicBrainz documentation being developed on the Wiki.
- -- This category contains pages dealing with FrequentlyAskedQuestions.
- -- Pages providing documentation about Label
s.
- -- Pages providing documentation about Annotations
s.
- -- For documentation of different edit types.
- -- This Category groups all WikiDocsPage
s. See WikiDocs for details.
- -- This Category groups all pages that are used on the MusicBrainz Server for Transcluded TextFragment
s
- -- This Category groups all pages that are used on the MusicBrainz Server for Transcluded TextFragment
- -- For pages relating to our tagger affiliate program
- -- This Category groups all pages that define a ModeratorLanguage. There is a description of how these pages work on ModeratorLanguage.
- -- This Category is for pages that describe places used by the MusicBrainz community to discuss.
- -- This Category groups all pages that deal with the mailing lists available on the server.
Categories needing discussion
Full list
- -- For pages about MusicBrainz features and implementation. This one is getting huge. Maybe we should split it.
- -- This Category is for pages that make proposals which are not only about style (which is covered by) but also new ideas for further developments and other stuff.
- -- For discussion threads. Pages will often be in this and some other category.
- -- For additional info pages that someday may go into the database.
- -- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the style guidelines
- -- Pages that deal with SeriesStyleGuideline
s.
- -- Pages that deal with SeriesStyleGuideline
- Should we really keep this one? There are 3 pages in this category. -- murdos 13:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- -- For pages describing, proposing, or discussing the editing process & guidelines.
- -- This Category is for pages that explain the various stati an Edit may have during its lifetime.
- -- This Category is for pages that deal with a the Advanced Relationships subsection of the MusicBrainzDocumentation on this wiki.
- -- This Category groups all pages that contain a ProposedAdvancedRelationshipType. It is used to automatically generate a list of these pages on ProposedAdvancedRelationshipType
- -- This Category groups all pages about AdvancedRelationshipAttribute
s.
- -- This Category groups all pages about AdvancedRelationshipClass
es.
- -- This Category groups all pages about AdvancedRelationshipType
s.
- -- For MusicBrainz documentation being developed on the Wiki.
- -- For explanations of terminology like DiscID, ArtistSortName, etc.
- -- This is a list of HowTo's automatically created from BackLink
s to this page. For a more structured overview and instructions on how to add new pages, see HowTo
- -- For pages with descriptions of other related software, resources, or external links.
- -- This Category is for pages that deal with the applications which use the MusicBrainz data, but are not maintained by the MusicBrainz developers. See the Products page if you want to learn about the MusicBrainz products.
- -- For metadiscussion, tasks about this Wiki.
- and of course, which includes all of the above, plus any which aren't yet listed here.
- -- Indexpages just collect pages that deal with a specific topic without that topic being discussed on the page itself. Please keep in mind that a WikiIsAFlatHierarchy. That means that pages can be listed on several indices. Indexpages form nothing like a directory tree but are mere clusters for topics.
- -- Pages that have a philosophical viewpoint.
- -- This Category groups all pages that deal with lists of stuff to do.
- -- This Category groups all pages kept for historical purposes (Discussion, Proposal, ...).
Needs splitting
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- ====Questionable====
- There are only 3 pages in this category.should be sufficient. -- murdos 13:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- we should not maintain wiki page for external software but rather link to an external page
Ad-hoc/Pseudo Categories
This is a list of all the pages on the wiki that list other pages on the wiki, but aren't Categories. Template:FullSearch
Discussion
I've got to wonder if it's possible to produce a flat (or better yet hierachical) list of categories (as above) automatically. It would certainly be easier to keep up-to-date than a hand-edited list... perhaps a script that watches for edits on Category.*, pulls the description, and updates/adds the list? Please AnswerMe. -- MartinRudat 08:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Categories:
- Person
- Bio
- Developer
- Products
- Server
- Database
- Download
- Picard
- Style
- Official Style
- Proposed Style
- Style Council
- Documentation
- FAQ
- Label
- Annotation
- Edit Types
- WikiDocs Page
- Textfragment
- Affiliate
- Moderator Language
- Communication Forum
- Mailing List
- Development
- Proposal
- Discussion
- Metadata
- Series Style
- Editing
- Edit Status
- Advanced Relationships
- Proposed Advanced Relationship Type
- Relationship Attributes
- Relationship Classes
- Relationship Type
- Terminology
- How To
- External
- Software
- Wiki
- Category
- Index
- Philosophy
- To Do List
- History
- Wiki Terminology
- Past Product
- Past Proposal