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Medley requires a new performance, according to [[Mix Terminology]], so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level. |
Medley requires a new performance, according to [[Mix Terminology]], so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level. |
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: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC) |
: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:: That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC) |
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| For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
| For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
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The other example I thought of in the chat of other version being used where the works wouldn't be merged was translated versions, e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/d96b100b-86bd-4e6c-a950-5283be973d7e/relationships and http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/028d72eb-3c52-4683-a5c6-932663245c58/relationships --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 11:27, 26 August 2010
Primer
This page describes the automatic conversions that will take place for ARs on update to NGS. This only applies to these updates – some of these may also end up having other acceptable entity pairings for new relationships created after NGS; that's not to be covered here. The last section is an initial list of Work-Work ARs to be created, some of them to replace/correct ARs in the preceding lists.
The goal at this time is to resolve any outstanding issues that remain.
Legend
To Recording, decided in IRC Meeting | To Work, decided in IRC Meeting |
Both, decided in IRC Meeting | Not discussed in IRC meeting |
Old ARs
Artist-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment |
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Arranger Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion. |
Art Direction Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Audio Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Booker Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Chorus Master Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Compiler Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | see discussion in Compilation Relationship Type, below |
Composer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | |
Conductor Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Creative Direction Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Design and Illustration Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Editor Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Graphic Design Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Instrumentator Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | |
Legal Representation Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | Could also be Artist-Work, but for conversion purposes we'll keep it on this until NGS. |
Librettist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | |
Liner Notes Author Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Live Sound Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Lyricist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | |
Mastering Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Both | |
Mix Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Mix-DJ Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Orchestra Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Orchestrator Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion. |
Performer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Photography Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Producer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Programming Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Publisher Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Both | |
Recording Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Remixer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Samples Artist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Sound Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | |
Travel Agent Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording |
Release-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment |
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Samples Relationship Type | Release-Track | Release-Recording | Refers to actual audio data. |
Label-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment |
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Publisher Relationship Type | Label-Track | Both |
Track-Track
Note: Track-Track ARs might become either Recording-Recording, or Recording-Work, or Work-Work (and maybe also Work-Recording).
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment |
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Compilation Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Designates that a single entity (i.e. not more than one recording/work) draws from multiple entities. Thus: a specific Recording from several Recordings; it won't be Works in this case, because that would be a Medley (at least for conversion to NGS). In converting data, will be converted to a Recording-Recording AR, since Work-Work is more likely to be Medley. |
Cover Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
DJ Mix Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
Earliest Release Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Deprecated AR Type: such recordings should be merged (an automatic merge is attempted during NGS conversion) |
Karaoke Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
Mash-up Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
Medley Relationship Type | Track-Track | Work-Work | See discussion below |
Other Version Relationship Type | Track-Track | Work-Work | Should now just mean "same Work"; should be merged - deprecated. Many of these situations will need to make new Work-Work ARs (see section below)
Note: merge should be manual, not automatic during NGS conversion because this AR type is a bit fuzzy. |
Remaster Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
Remix Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | |
Samples Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Sampling refers to actual audio data, hence recording for the source. The choice of specific recording to sample from wouldn't change the work (i.e. two Recordings which each sample a different Recording could still be the same Work; hence Recording for the sampling entity. |
Medley Relationship Type Discussion
Medley requires a new performance, according to Mix Terminology, so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level.
- Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. Murdos 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Track-URL
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment |
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Art Direction Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Booker Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Creative Commons Licensed Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Creative Direction Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Design and Illustration Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Free Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Graphic Design Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Has Lyrics At Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | |
Has Score At Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | |
IBDb Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | |
IOBDb Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | Where is this db? There. But this AR type is not used by any ARs (i.e. has no instance). Murdos 23:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC) |
Legal Representation Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | As with other legal representation AR, could also be to Works, but we'll convert to Recording for now |
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type | Track-URL | Both | |
Paid Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Photography Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Publisher Relationship Type | Track-URL | Both | |
Recording Studio Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | |
Samples From Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | Samples refer to actual audio data. |
Travel Agent Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL |
New Work-Work ARs to Create
AR Type | Comment |
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Re-arranged version | For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
The other example I thought of in the chat of other version being used where the works wouldn't be merged was translated versions, e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/d96b100b-86bd-4e6c-a950-5283be973d7e/relationships and http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/028d72eb-3c52-4683-a5c6-932663245c58/relationships --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)