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* Lukáš Lalinský ([[Lu Kz|LuKz]])
* Björn Krombholz ([[User:Fuchs|Fuchs]])
* Björn Krombholz ([[User:Fuchs|Fuchs]])
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Arriving with car (?) - if anyone needs a ride from one place between Rostock-Hamburg (e.g. Lübeck), tell me)
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Arriving with car (?) - if anyone needs a ride from one place between Rostock-Hamburg (e.g. Lübeck), tell me)
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* [[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
* [[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
** Also arriving via IC 2304 at 17:12 platform 14a/b

* [[Stefan Kestenholz|StefanKestenholz]]
* [[Stefan Kestenholz|StefanKestenholz]]
** Arriving via ICE 72 at 17:35 platform 14a/b
** Arriving via [[City Night Line|CityNightLine]] Komet 8:34

* Masiar Farahani ([[Masi]])
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Living there. Arriving via U-Bahn (U2) I can host one person at my place.
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==Schedule==
==Schedule==
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===Friday Evening, Dec 2nd===
===Friday Evening, Dec 2nd===


# Meet at Hamburg Hbf (Central station), around 18:00 in the "Wandelhalle" (west-end of train station) near the "Glockengiesserwall" exit
# Meet at Hamburg Hbf (Central station), around 17:45 in the "Wandelhalle" (west-end of train station) near the "Glockengiesserwall" exit
# Determine who will stay with whom. Whoever gets to stay at Rob's WG will also have to put up with 6 Italian girls who are visiting for the weekend.
# Stash luggage/gear as necessary
# Stash luggage/gear as necessary
# Dinner
# Dinner
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===Saturday, Dec 3rd===
===Saturday, Dec 3rd===


# Summit 7 meetings starting at 10:00/11:00. Exact start time to be determined Friday evening.
$150 that we have earned in Amazon referral fees will be available for buying food/beer!
# Summit 7 meetings starting at 11:00. Location to be determined.
# Break for lunch
# Break for lunch
# Conclude with dinner
# Conclude with dinner
# Relax with drinks and record [[MusicBrainz]] team drinking song, so we can AR ourselves as artists (what about [http://musicbrainz.org/track/71f7c8ca-905d-4a51-a114-097b04fe458c.html Alkohol from Herbert Grönemeyer]? ;-) )
# Relax with drinks and record [[MusicBrainz]] team drinking song, so we can AR ourselves as artists (what about [http://musicbrainz.org/track/71f7c8ca-905d-4a51-a114-097b04fe458c.html Alkohol from Herbert Grönemeyer]? ;-) )

Meeting location will be at Multi-Büro-service, 3. etage, Glockengiesserwall 17, right across from Hamburg Hbf. It's not even a 5 minute walk from the station. There are restaurants and bars near by. We even have reservations for dinner in a restaurant where some of my friends will take care of us. But, this is not set in stone if people don't want to eat German food.

110 Euro that we have earned in Amazon referral fees will be available for buying food/beer! I will go and purchase some drinks and snacks beforehand. Any suggestions for what I should get would be appreciated.


===Sunday, Dec 4th===
===Sunday, Dec 4th===
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Find solutions for current problems around this issue, prioritize work on this.
Find solutions for current problems around this issue, prioritize work on this.
* Adding Events and Labels to AR ([[Advanced Entity|AdvancedEntity]]).
* Adding Events and Labels to AR ([[Advanced Entity|AdvancedEntity]]).
* Discuss album rework proposal (to add UPC/EAN, ISRC codes; [[Release Data Set|ReleaseDataSet]])
* Discuss album rework proposal (to add UPC/EAN, [[ISRC]] codes; [[Release Data Set|ReleaseDataSet]])
* Generalization of album/track/artist concept ([[Release Groups|ReleaseGroups]], abstract albums/tracks + album/track grouping for AR and better representation, also [[Advanced Entity|AdvancedEntity]])
* Generalization of album/track/artist concept ([[Release Groups|ReleaseGroups]], abstract albums/tracks + album/track grouping for AR and better representation, also [[Advanced Entity|AdvancedEntity]])
* [[TRM]]/[[FDMF]]/<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>[[Audio Fingerprint|AudioFingerprint]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>ing status, plan for removal/improvment
* [[TRM]]/[[FDMF]]/<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>[[Audio Fingerprint|AudioFingerprint]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>ing status, plan for removal/improvment
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** How and when to implement what.
** How and when to implement what.


* Think very generally about the growth of [[MusicBrainz]]: What changes will be required to manage that, and to prevent chaos? (FAQ-O-Matic, [[WikiDocs]], Nabble or Forums, Social statistics [like rating of artists' and editors' matureness by 0-5 stars], usage info from the Tagger,...)
* Think very generally about the growth of [[MusicBrainz]]: What changes will be required to manage that, and to prevent chaos? (FAQ-O-Matic, [[WikiDocs]], Nabble or Forums, Social statistics [like rating of artists' and editors' matureness by 0-5 stars], how to prevent bad entries getting accepted in the database (voting system, edits never expire...), usage info from the Tagger,...)
* Prioritize desired features for the next year
* Prioritize desired features for the next year



Revision as of 11:57, 30 November 2005

(See also the list of other MusicBrainzSummits)

The MusicBrainz summit 7 will take place in Hamburg, Germany on Dec 3rd 2005.

Confirmed participants

When adding yourself, please indicate how and when you might be arriving.

  • Arriving via U-Bahn (U1) to meet the first attendees
  • Arriving with car (?) - if anyone needs a ride from one place between Rostock-Hamburg (e.g. Lübeck), tell me)
  • Simon Reinhardt (Shepard)
    • Arriving via IC 2304 at 17:12 platform 14a/b
  • Living there. Arriving via S-Bahn (S11/S1) I can host up to two people at my place.
  • MatthewExon
    • Also arriving via IC 2304 at 17:12 platform 14a/b
  • Masiar Farahani (Masi)
  • Living there. Arriving via U-Bahn (U2) I can host one person at my place.

Schedule

Friday Evening, Dec 2nd

  1. Meet at Hamburg Hbf (Central station), around 17:45 in the "Wandelhalle" (west-end of train station) near the "Glockengiesserwall" exit
  2. Determine who will stay with whom. Whoever gets to stay at Rob's WG will also have to put up with 6 Italian girls who are visiting for the weekend.
  3. Stash luggage/gear as necessary
  4. Dinner
  5. Head home to Don or Rob's place

Saturday, Dec 3rd

  1. Summit 7 meetings starting at 10:00/11:00. Exact start time to be determined Friday evening.
  2. Break for lunch
  3. Conclude with dinner
  4. Relax with drinks and record MusicBrainz team drinking song, so we can AR ourselves as artists (what about Alkohol from Herbert Grönemeyer? ;-) )

Meeting location will be at Multi-Büro-service, 3. etage, Glockengiesserwall 17, right across from Hamburg Hbf. It's not even a 5 minute walk from the station. There are restaurants and bars near by. We even have reservations for dinner in a restaurant where some of my friends will take care of us. But, this is not set in stone if people don't want to eat German food.

110 Euro that we have earned in Amazon referral fees will be available for buying food/beer! I will go and purchase some drinks and snacks beforehand. Any suggestions for what I should get would be appreciated.

Sunday, Dec 4th

  1. Send off those who need to get home
  2. Group hacking on a small project for those that are inclined and can stay a little longer
  3. Send off hackers

Agenda

Please add items to the agenda you'd like to discuss:

  • State of the project and the non-profit
  • Get to understand AdvancedRelationships. How do the new DB possibilities of n-n relations between the tables affect
    • the overall database structure (e.g. What is the function of the primary artist field?)
    • the searching functionality (e.g. Which ARs should be queried when searching for an artist name?)
    • the reorganization of the user interface (i.e. display of the data onthe website)
    • the PicardTagger
    • The RDF schema and the protocols by which clients and server communicate.
    • StyleIssues that follow from this, like what to do with the despised FeaturingArtistStyle, and new issues like ArtistRoleInheritance and DisplayInheritance.

Find solutions for current problems around this issue, prioritize work on this.

  • Adding Events and Labels to AR (AdvancedEntity).
  • Discuss album rework proposal (to add UPC/EAN, ISRC codes; ReleaseDataSet)
  • Generalization of album/track/artist concept (ReleaseGroups, abstract albums/tracks + album/track grouping for AR and better representation, also AdvancedEntity)
  • TRM/FDMF/AudioFingerprinting status, plan for removal/improvment
  • PicardTagger:
    • When will it be ready to do what? How will this affect the rest of MusicBrainz (resources, growth,...)
    • Expanding the tagging process:
      • make more use of the data in the db (for example put info from AR into ID3 fields, like "is a cover of"->original performer)
      • support a scripting language to allow individual user defined tagging preferences (put all words upper case, put this value in that field, move those files in that directory)
  • Expanding the data set to include subjective information (folksonomy, reviews, etc.):
    • Do we want that?
    • How would it work? (Would it work at all?)
    • How and when to implement what.
  • Think very generally about the growth of MusicBrainz: What changes will be required to manage that, and to prevent chaos? (FAQ-O-Matic, WikiDocs, Nabble or Forums, Social statistics [like rating of artists' and editors' matureness by 0-5 stars], how to prevent bad entries getting accepted in the database (voting system, edits never expire...), usage info from the Tagger,...)
  • Prioritize desired features for the next year