User:Symphonick/csg overview

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Status: Initial phase
  • Attention.png This page - just started
  • Attention.png Howto/beginner's guide - no page exist yet
  • Attention.png CSG for Releases and Release Groups - no page exist yet
  • Attention.png CSG for Releases and Release Groups: Artist (detailed) - still discussing
  • Attention.png CSG for Releases and Release Groups: Title (detailed) - RFC can be written
  • Attention.png CSG for Recordings: - could mostly be written but depending on Works.
  • Attention.png CSG for Works: (main page) - not ready, only some discussions so far
  • Attention.png CSG for Works: What is a work? Super-works/aggregate works vs. collections - important!
  • Attention.png CSG for Works: Language & catalogue - suggestions could possibly be written
  • Attention.png CSG for Works: Title: Special Cases (Opera/Ballet) - needed?
  • Checkmark.png CSG Resources - keys & RN ready for proposal

What should be the order here?

CSG and the Style Principles

CSG exists apart from other style guidelines due to the special situations encountered when dealing with CSG-applicable titles and artists. With regards to the style principles, CSG co-exists with the other style guidelines, but is separate from them. CSG does not override Artist Intent, but in cases where CSG would conflict with a strong guideline, Consistent Original Data, or any other style guideline, if CSG is applicable, then CSG overrides the conflicting guideline.

Who is considered a “classical” composer?

'Classical music' is a broad term that encompasses a broad period from the beginning of history through to the present day. Depending upon the particular culture, classical music can be ecclesiastical, instrumental, orchestral — even electronic. To attempt to define just what classical music is, or to define a 'classical composer', would invariably include artists who ought to be excluded, and exclude artists who ought to be included.

For our purposes, one possible way to determine the answer for a given composition or composer is to question which artist is the principal artist for a work. Most people listen to The Rolling Stones without much care for who composed the songs. With 'classical' music, however, Glenn Gould or Hilary Hahn certainly is important to the performance of the work, but the composer of the music being performed is of at least co-equal, frequently greater, importance. For this reason, for 'classical' music, the composer, and not the performer, is the principal artist. In MusicBrainz terminology, this is frequently referred to as 'composer as artist style'.


Q&A pages: CSG for Release Titles CSG for Tracklists


A step-by-step guide to entering a classical release in MB, nicely written & with cake!


For now, use the default work title (in latin script?). The composer will always be "artist". In the comment field...


Note: These are advanced guidelines. Typically, only editors who specialize in editing classical works will need to reference these guidelines.

Pre-NGS CSG Standard Project works lists are listed at CSG Standard.


The Classical Style Guideline (CSG) for artists began in a discussion on the users mailing list in January of 2004. The Classical Style Guidelines for release titles and track titles began as suggestions within that discussion. CSG continued to develop through December of 2006, when the basic guidelines were locked down as official. Throughout 2007, various discussions on more obscure areas of CSG took place in all possible discussion areas of MusicBrainz. However, these guidelines had several principal problems: they were difficult to interpret, vague in many respects, and every new release entered required the editor to reapply CSG to recreate the correct CSG title. Due to these problems, titles created using CSG varied widely, and classical releases required large amounts of time to enter.

Beginning in early 2008, CSG was reexamined for revision by the Style Council. At that point, CSG had become nearly impossible to actually use, due to the number of unofficial CSG-related guidelines - only a few ever actually documented - which were the result of thousands of edits attempting to interpret CSG. The new version of CSG was intended to solve the problems of the earlier CSG: easier to use on a daily basis, clear and specific in its guidance, and consistent in the titles created using the guidelines, regardless of who was the editor.

From these discussions, proposals for new Classical Style Guidelines (CSGv2) were developed, anticipating NGS and the new entity "Works". The Classical Style Guideline for Works is complex, but it need only be used once for any given work, and thus is a huge improvement over the original CSG. However, before the actual implementation of works, there was a limit on what could be done, and after the migration to NGS in 2011, much of the proposals had to be rewritten.

The new Classical Style Guidelines were passed in __________ of 201_,

Notes and References

Will it mean bad luck if I write that the guidelines were passed in 2011 already?