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User: Yurim

Yurim.png Matthias [ MB: Yurim | IRC: Yurim | Yurim | Languages: ]
Matthias lives in Munich and loves all sorts of music.


Learned by advice

Comments (for Copy 'n' Paste)

moved featured artists from title to artist credits (see [Style/Artist_Credits])
typographically-correct punctuation (see [Style/Miscellaneous])

You may want to correct the capitalization (see [Style/Language/English]). The "Guess case" button is your friend. (Well, almost. You have to check afterwards.)
Use a colon (:) to separate multi‐line parts of a release title (if no other dividing punctuation mark is present). See [Style/Titles/Subtitles].
[Style/Titles/Volume_numbers] explains how to enter volume numbers. The "Guess case" button is your friend.
The language and script attributes should match the (majority of) release and track titles. See
The disambiguation comments are fields in the database used to help distinguish identically named artists, labels and other entities. See [Disambiguation_Comment].
Please enter enough information that this release can be identified. A scan of the back cover is great, a barcode is often unique, label and catalog number might help.
See [How_to_Write_Edit_Notes].
The release can be found on amazon or discogs, so you can provide a link.
Please enter extra title information as described in [Style/Titles/Extra_title_information].
If you have the CD at hand, could you enter the DiscID ([How_to_Add_Disc_IDs])? And while you're at it, you may want to add the fingerprints ([AcoustID]).
If you want to add additional information like who recorded it, where was it mastered, etc. you may want to use the relationship editor. See [How_to_Use_the_Relationship_Editor].
Do you still have access to this release?
Can you provide any information that might help to identify this release? A scan of the back cover is great, a barcode is often unique, label and catalog number might help.
Is this an audiobook (Hörbuch) or an audio play (Hörspiel)? If it is an audio book who is the narrator?


Common Mistakes

For quite some now time I'm watching new "Various Artists" releases and German audiobooks/audio plays. There are some mistakes that keep appearing and could probably be avoided by small additional messages.

  • Release title: Most invalid capitalization is from editors who did not read the language specific styleguides. ⇒ Display a link to the these styleguides next to the release title input field.
  • Language: Often left blank or set to the language of of the release country. ⇒ Display a message next to the input field that the language should match the (majority of) release and track titles.
  • Script: Often left blank, probably because editors don't know what to enter. ⇒ Display a message next to the input field that the script should match the (majority of) release and track titles, for English language titles "Latin" is very likely.
  • Medium titles: Often set to "CD1", "CD2", or simply the release title. ⇒ Display a message near the medium title input fields.
  • Recordings: IMO many editors feel the need to choose existing recordings, selecting (mostly based on the recording length) parts of DJ-mixes, different edits or completely unrelated recordings. ⇒ Display a message that it is not required to select existing recordings. IMHO anyway uploading AcoustIDs is a better way to find matching recordings.
  • Update recordings: Many editors do not understand that this checkbox causes existing recordings that are linked to other releases to be modified. ⇒ Display a message.


Audiobooks, Audio Plays, and Audio Features

  • Open Questions
    • Now that we officially have "Audio Play" as a secondary type, does the Audiobook Styleguide also apply to audio plays?
      • Audio plays differ from audiobooks in several ways. Audiobooks are usually read by one artist that does all voices, there are no sound effects or music. They also differ in perception, one is a book read by a person, the other is a story performed by several persons with no role as central as the reader of an audiobook. While the script for the audiobook is often only marginally different than the book, the script for a radio play is often significantly different with no clearly marked chapters.
    • What's the primary type of audiobooks?
      • I think I saw "Other" more often than "Album".
    • Should "Prologue / Epilogue" also be prefixed with "Chapter"? Should the numbering for "Prologue" start with 0?
    • Should audiobooks by various writers read by a single narrator be filed under "Various Artists read by XYZ"?
    • Should it always be "ABC read/narrated/... by XYZ" or is "XYZ reads/narrates/... ABC" allowed? What about the sort order?
    • The styleguide is based on chapters. What about texts with a different/higher level ordering like "Book 1: The Fellowship of the Ring"?
    • Should abbreviated/reworked/modified audiobook scripts constitute a work of their own?
    • Audiobooks often start with a jingle. Could a default name for that be a good idea ("Title", "Introduction", "Anouncement", "Jingle")?
    • Audiobooks often have "director" (German: "Regie") credits. How should that be represented?
    • There are many different disambiguation texts for artists that are mainly reading audio books, like "audiobook narrator", "audiobook reader", "voice actor" or "dubbing actor". What sounds best?
    • There are quite a lot of compilations. How about the possibility to add single audiobooks/audio plays as pseudo-releases of their own to the release group?


  • You can use the MusicBrainz ID in the relationship editor
    • Klicking through tons of similar items? Search in another window and put the URL in the input line.


Recordings from this artist containing "feat."
Rename audiobook tracks from "Chapter XX-0Y: Chaptername" to "Chapter XX: “Chaptername”, Part Y
javascript:(function(){$('.track-name').each(function(index, element){$(this).val(this.value.replace(/(Chapter \d+)-0(\d+): (.*)/, function(match, p1, p2, p3, offset, string){return p1 + ": \u201c" + p3 + "\u201d, Part " + p2})).change();})}());
Switch all checkboxes on "Edit Release" -> "Recordings"
javascript:(function(){$(".changes table input[type=checkbox]").each(function(){})}());
Rename audiobook tracks to "Teil X" (German for "Part X")
Replace all ASCII apostrophes in track titles with typographically correct ones

Open questions

  • Will there be more filters and options to search for edits?
    • I'm still missing "order by closing date", "All my open edits that have comments from someone else", "All open edits from other editors that I commented" and "All my open edits that are in conflict with another open edit".
  • What are the artist credits for releases like "Marian McPartland and Friends - 85 Candles: Live From New York"?
    • Various Artists? An artist of its own? Marian McPartland and [Various Artists as "Friends"]?


I think this is a good place to collect open questions and resolved issues. Drop me a line if I'm wrong. I will delete this page then.

  • Please don't delete it. It's your page after all ;). Now, maybe this is not the most appropriate place to ask questions, as most people won't notice (errr... well, that leaves you with answers from the "not-most" people :p). There are two good places for fast answers: the users mailing list, and IRC. -- dmppanda 20:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • and the new forum -- JoanW

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