https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Adan+Aileron&feedformat=atomMusicBrainz Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T19:29:27ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.39.4https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Non-Album_Track&diff=29879Non-Album Track2009-05-11T23:12:15Z<p>Adan Aileron: formatting/typos</p>
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<div>=Non-Album Tracks=<br />
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Musical tracks that are associated with an artist but have not been released on any album (or single, or compilation, etc.) are grouped together under the pseudo-album [[Non-Album Tracks|NonAlbumTracks]]. <br />
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While it's tempting for lazy users to use these as "a dumping ground for dodgy internet sourced mp3s," this tendency should be (and is) resisted; an [[Add Track Edit|AddTrackEdit]] for a non-album track without a good [[Edit Note|EditNote]] is ''very likely to be voted down''. Although the [[Style Guideline|StyleGuideline]]s don't spell this out explicitly (as they should) there are a few valid reasons for creating a NonAlbumTrack: <br />
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==When to Use Non-Album Tracks==<br />
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;Internet-only release: Often, before an album is released, songs from the album may be available on an internet site for download, and may be entered as non-album tracks; however, once the album (or single) with such a track is entered into the database, the non-album track should be removed with [[Remove Track Edit|RemoveTrackEdit]]. Less frequently, some such tracks are available for download, but are never included in any album or compilation. <br />
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;Captured from broadcast performance: A song may be performed as part of a TV or radio show or other non-concert performance; tracks captured from these events may be entered as non-album tracks if they are not part of any live album or bootleg compilation. <br />
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;Pregap (track 0) tracks: It is possible to have [[Hidden Track|HiddenTrack]]s that precede the beginning of track 1; since the [[MusicBrainz]] database has no way to store a [[Pregap Track|PregapTrack]] (see ticket [[Ticket:811|811]]) these should be entered as non-album tracks, as recommended in [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2004-January/004532.html one mailing list thread] or [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2004-August/006344.html another later one]. <br />
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==When not to Use Non-Album Tracks==<br />
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Conversely, there are some cases that should ''not'' use non-album tracks, even though it might seem applicable:<br />
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;MP3 CD-ROM collections: Sometimes an artist or label will release a number of songs as MP3 files on a CD-ROM rather than as an audio disc; these should be entered as normal albums (or compilations, etc. if that is more appropriate). If there is no explicit track order in the filenames, they should be listed in alphabetical order as that is how most MP3 CD-ROM capable players will play them. <br />
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;Tracks hidden in other tracks: [[Hidden Track|HiddenTrack]]s are tracks where a single (very long) track has music, then a long silence (or noise), followed by one or more (different) pieces of music. Those are to be entered in the form "Song Title / [untitled]" according to [[Untitled Track Style|UntitledTrackStyle]] and [[Multiple Title Style|MultipleTitleStyle]] (or "Song Title / Other Song Title" if the song is known by a name otherwhere). Those tracks are not allowed as non-album tracks. <br />
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;Track "99": Another type of [[Hidden Track|HiddenTrack]]s are those that ''are'' separate tracks, but are preceded by dozens of short tracks of '''[silence]'''; since these can and should be listed as tracks of the album, they are not non-album tracks. <br />
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==Some Guidelines==<br />
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Finally, there are some other guidelines for use of non-album tracks: <br />
;Use informative titles: Since non-album tracks don't have album release dates or other information associated with them, adding information like "(live, 2002-05-13: Radio One)" is very helpful. Using titles like "[untitled]" or "[unknown]" is sure to get the track voted down or removed. <br />
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;''Submit'' the [[PUID]]s: Non-album tracks with no associated PUIDs are fairly useless, since they cannot be matched by track number or disc id, and matching by track name is unlikely to tell you anything you didn't already know. If you add a non-album track, it's presumably because you have an MP3 or other sound file for it. Tagging your file with [[MusicBrainz Identifier|MusicBrainzIdentifier]]s is only half the work; you need to submit the PUID to the [[MusicBrainz]] database so that the entry is useful to others. If you don't, the entry is likely to be "garbage collected" for lack of PUIDs later on. <br />
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;Link to a download source: Direct download links if available (like from artist websites) should be linked to the non-album track with an [[Advanced Relationship|AdvancedRelationship]]. They are not only the best proof for the track's existence when adding it, but also the best documentation as to where it's from.<br />
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==Discussion==<br />
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Summary of a long but productive IRC session after a particularly contentious edit ([http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5467441 http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5467441]): <br />
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===NATs for releases preceding albums===<br />
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* Adding NATs that we know are going to be removed in future, such as those for net released songs that precede an album, does not sit well with some people. There's an element of worry that nobody will remember to remove the NAT when the album is released, and there's a further element of worrying that it's the start of a slippery slope of allowing data in general that we know isn't entirely correct (or in this case, won't be for all time). <br />
* The above conflicts with the idea that adding album tracklistings ahead of releases is a generally undesirable practice, since we can't guarantee that tracks added as NAT's will in fact, appear on an album, just because an artists website may suggest this. <br />
* This suggests we need to revisit this guideline, one way or the other, and clarify in general if "Data we know will need to be removed in the future" should be avoided at all costs or is generally ok, so long as we actually do remember to remove it. <br />
* Some of these tracks may in fact qualify as singles. In the edit that triggered this, the artist has gone to some trouble to "release" it. It has a website, art, and could arguably be a net-released single, if we chose to define it as such. This differentiates it from the usual "here's a bunch of mp3's" or myspace collections that are usually finding their way into NAT status. Certainly, we already define some of these release attributes such as "promo" and "compilation" subtly differently to the music industry at large. This could neatly sidestep most of the issues of adding data we're going to have to remove. Singles like this wouldn't need to be removed at all, they would simply be another entry. This also lead to the point that our release attributes may need some broadening, in this age of net releases and other confusing and ambiguous things. <br />
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===NATs for broadcast material===<br />
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We also went off on a small tangent here, and think this part of the guideline needs clarifying or restating <br />
* There's a big difference between "broadcast material that is known to be accurate and useful" and generic rips from radio or net streams, which are not widely available and are neither accurate nor useful. <br />
* Broadcasts like KEXP's song of the day (a podcast from a radio station which often includes live in studio performances of songs by popular bands), the SIXX MIXX mixes by the artist Party Ben, and the like, are ok as NATs. They originate from a single known, legitimate source. <br />
* Ordinary end-user rips from radio that are not part of an entire, widely distributed performance, should probably be more explicitly discouraged. <br />
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[http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3505 Bug report 3505] suggests that non-album tracks be called something else, like: <br />
* [individually released tracks] <br />
* [individual releases] <br />
* [one-off tracks] <br />
* [non-release tracks] (would be in line with the album->release terminology change and also more clearly states that tracks from any kind of release (so also singles etc. and not just albums) are not allowed.) <br />
* replace it with a general mechanism for non-album collections of tracks with no order <br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Terminology]] [[Category:Style]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=cover_Art_Sites&diff=29584cover Art Sites2009-04-17T18:47:57Z<p>Adan Aileron: </p>
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This page outlines websites that [[MusicBrainz]] can use to retrieve cover art. <br />
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There are a number of times that cover art isn't available on Amazon, either due to customer-submitted images or to an absence of a release. Also Amazon does not stock a lot of indie music that other smaller retailers on the net sell. <br />
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In order for [[MusicBrainz]] to deep link (link directly to a JPEG file on the retailer's site) [[MusicBrainz]] needs permission from the retailer. Each retailer should be contacted to ask for permission to deep link to their site and [[MusicBrainz]] should NOT link to a retailer if no permission has been granted. <br />
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==Proposed Web Sites==<br />
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* ''When adding a site, please include an example release and a direct link to its cover.'' <br />
* ''Please also place the sites alphabetically.'' <br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" width="100%"<br />
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| '''Site''' || '''Example release''' || '''Cover URL''' || '''Contacted''' || '''Permission URL''' || '''Support in MB Server'''<ref>http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/browser/mb_server/trunk/cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/CoverArt.pm#L39</ref> <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.apparemment.fr/brassens/index.html Apparement.fr] ([http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b58165ba-ac55-49a1-8855-caf16c68f5f2.html Georges Brassens] discography) || [http://www.apparemment.fr/brassens/1952.html Example] || [http://web.archive.org/web/20071012021218/www.apparemment.fr/brassens/images/530011-1small.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Apparement.fr|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
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| [http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/main.jsp ArkivMusic] || [http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/Drilldown?name_id1=11179&name_role1=1&genre=70&bcorder=19&comp_id=184754 Example] || [http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/full/55/550338.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://cake.ography.co.uk/ cake.ography] ([http://musicbrainz.org/artist/fa7b9055-3703-473a-8a09-adf2fe031a24.html CAKE] discography) || [http://cake.ography.co.uk/release_details.php?id=121 Example] || [http://web.archive.org/web/20060822011757/cake.ography.co.uk/release_images/cake/fashion_nugget_cover.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Cakeography|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://cdbaby.com CD Baby] || [http://cdbaby.com/cd/prozak Example] || [http://cdbaby.name/p/r/prozak_small.jpg Cover] || Yes || [http://cdbaby.name/mb-is-ok.html permission] || Yes <br />
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|[http://www.cdroots.com cdRoots] || [http://www.cdroots.com/cda-nid.html Example] || [http://www.cdroots.com/cda-nid.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.cduniverse.com CD Universe] || [http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1108384&BAB=F Example] || [http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/130/133836.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #0AC8ED;"<br />
| [http://www.cede.ch/ cede.ch] || [http://www.cede.ch/en/music-cd/frames/frameset.cfm?aobj=437379 Example] || [http://www.cede.ch/covers/cd/437000/437379.jpg Cover] || Yes || (none yet) || No <br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.discogs.com Discogs] || [http://www.discogs.com/release/869268 Example] || [http://www.discogs.com/image/R-869268-1167394978.jpeg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.ekleipsi.com Ekleipsi] || [http://www.villenoire.net/ekleipsinetlabel/Ekleipsi/Releases/Entries/2007/7/1_Jupiter_Makes_Me_Scream_-_Too_Short_To_Be_Missed.html Example] || [http://www.archive.org/download/JupiterMakesMeScream-tooShortToBeMissed/cover.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Ekleipsi|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
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| [http://www.emusic.com eMusic] || [http://www.emusic.com/album/10968/10968583.html Example] || [http://www.emusic.com/img/album/109/685/10968583_155_155.jpeg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.metal-archives.com Encyclopaedia Metallum] || [http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=799 Example] || [http://static.metal-archives.com/images/7/9/9/799.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/EncyclopaediaMetallum|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.encyclopedisque.fr/ Encyclopédisque] (French 7") || [http://www.encyclopedisque.fr/disque/21352.html Example] || [http://www.encyclopedisque.fr/images/imgdb/main/20475.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Encyclopedisque|permission]]|| Yes <br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.fresh-poulp.net Fresh Poulp Records] || [http://www.fresh-poulp.net/releases/FPR027.html Example] || [http://www.fresh-poulp.net/covers/Algar_steppaction_front.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #0AC8ED;"<br />
| [http://www.gospel.nl Gospel.nl] || [http://www.gospel.nl/details.php?artikelID=20924 Example] || [http://www.gospel.nl/images/covers/large/opw20081.jpg Cover] || Yes || (None yet) || No <br />
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| [http://www.hmv.co.uk/ HMV.co.uk] || [http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=-1;1;-1;-1&sku=534772 Example] || [http://www3.hmv.co.uk/hmv/Large_Images/HMV/BEATLUVPRECD.JPG Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.hmv.co.jp/ HMV.co.jp] || [http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/1215088 Example] || [http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/12/1/5/088.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.homegrownmusic.net/ Homegrown Music Network] || [http://www.homegrownmusic.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Vorcza&Category_Code=Vorczahg Example] || [http://homegrownmusic.net/images/vorcza.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.iclassics.com iClassics] || [http://www.iclassics.com/productDetail?contentId=64866 Example] || [http://www.iclassics.com/content/assets/selection/65/64866M.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #0AC8ED;"<br />
| [http://www.archive.org/ Internet Archive] || [http://www.archive.org/details/xgn010_-_dozuki Example] || [http://www.archive.org/download/xgn010_-_dozuki/xgn010.jpg Cover] || Yes || (none yet) || Yes <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.jamendo.com/ Jamendo] || [http://www.jamendo.com/album/1003/ Example] || [http://img.jamendo.com/albums/1003/covers/1.300.jpg Cover] || Yes || [http://blog.jamendo.com/index.php/2007/08/03/jamendo-grants-musicbrainz-full-cover-art-access/ permission] || Yes <br />
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| [http://www.juno.co.uk/ Juno Records] || [http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/232113-01.htm Example] || [http://images.juno.co.uk/full/CS232113-01A-BIG.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.last.fm/ Last.fm] || [http://www.last.fm/music/Skepticism/Alloy Example] || [http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/300x300/11158389.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.lokpest.com Lokpest] ([http://musicbrainz.org/artist/27617f1f-2a7b-44df-b345-0aedde68d28a.html LOK] discography) || [http://www.lokpest.com/diskografi.php Example] || [http://web.archive.org/web/20070926141719/http://www.lokpest.com/bilder/cd/naken_blastrad_och_skitsur_1.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Lokpest|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.magnatune.com/ Magnatune] || [http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/antiguru-fall/ Example] || [http://he3.magnatune.com/music/AntiGuru/Fall%20Submissions/cover_200.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Magnatune|permission]] || Yes <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.modernsky.com/ Modern Sky (摩登天空)] ([http://musicbrainz.org/label/fdaae26f-7ffb-4649-82e7-387b799a15b4.html MB entry]) || [http://www.modernsky.com/bands/muma/muma_ep.htm Example] || [http://web.archive.org/web/20041018010007/www.modernsky.com/images/bands/muma/muma_ep_cover.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/ModernSky|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.musicplug.net/ MusicPlug] || [http://www.musicplug.net/cd-jbt-funky.htm Example] || [http://www.musicplug.net/images/CD_jbt-funky.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.moviemusic.com/ The Movie Music Store] (aka [http://www.soundtrackinfo.com SoundtrackINFO]) || [http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/war2007 Example] || [http://www.moviemusic.com/cdcovers/285/war2007.gif Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #0AC8ED;"<br />
| [http://www.muziekarchief.be/ Muziekarchief.be] (Belgian encyclopedia for discography) || [http://www.muziekarchief.be/albumdetails.php?ID=45150 Example] || [http://www.muziekarchief.be/thumbnails/carrierdata_16646.jpg Cover] || Yes || In negotiation || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.ozon.ru/ Ozon.ru] (large russian e-store) || [http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/2675261/ Example] || [http://www.ozon.ru/multimedia/audio_cd_covers/1000350681.jpg Cover] || Yes || Affiliate, support included in 10/14/2007 release || Yes <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.9inchnails.com/discography/ Painful Convictions] (Nine Inch Nails fan site) || [http://www.9inchnails.com/discography/bootlegs/the-definitive-nine-inch-nails-deep-cuts.php Example] || [http://www.9inchnails.com/images/discography/865.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/PainfulConvictions|permission]] (via archive.org) || Yes (via archive.org) <br />
|-<br />
| [http://rateyourmusic.com/ Rate Your Music ] || [http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/eddy_grant/greatest_hits/ Example] || [http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s590522.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.thastrom.se/diskografi.html Thåström] (Joakim Thåström site) || [http://www.thastrom.se/diskografier/ebba/disko_ebba_wereonly.htm Example] || [http://www.thastrom.se/diskografier/ebba/ebba_img/eglpwereonly.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Thåström|permission]] || Yes <br />
|- style="background-color: #0AC8ED;"<br />
| [http://www.tulumba.com Tulumba.com] || [http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=MU902376GH535 Example] || [http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/MU902376GH535_250.jpg CoverSmall] [http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/MU902376GH535_500.jpg CoverLarge] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/Tulumba|(None yet)]] || No <br />
|- style="background-color: #80FF80;"<br />
| [http://www.universalpoplab.com Universal Poplab] (Universal Poplab site) || [http://www.universalpoplab.com/content/view/11/10/ Example] || [http://www.universalpoplab.com/images/stories/on_the_run2.jpg Cover] || Yes || [[CoverArtSites/UniversalPoplab|permission]] || Yes <br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia ] || [http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%91%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8F%D0%B3%D0%B0 Example] || [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/c/cb/Aquarium_Careless_Russian_Rover.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
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| [http://www.yalp.alice.it/download/musicstore/hp/index.html Yalp.it] || [http://www.yalp.alice.it/musicstore/scheda?hits=50&offset=0&qs=dc_2-3527774 Example] || [http://images.rossoalice.alice.it/musicbox/images/G/3527774/3527777-100033-l.jpg Cover] || No || - || No <br />
|-<br />
| [http://global.yesasia.com/ YesAsia.com] || [http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-c/section-music/pid-1002851860/ Example] || [http://i3.yesasia.com/assets/60/518/l_p1002851860.jpg Cover] || No || Possible affiliate? || No <br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.zvuki.ru/ Zvuki.ru] (an online russian music encyclopedia) || [http://www.zvuki.ru/M/P/31357 Example] || [http://www.zvuki.ru/photo/b/24388/picture.jpg Cover] || No || Embeds logo into coverart (a no-go?) || No <br />
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Specific permissions for individual releases is tracked on the [[Cover Art Sites/Permission For Artwork| Permission For Artwork]] page.<br />
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==Supported Web Sites==<br />
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So far we support the above green-highlighted cover art sites. To create a new cover art link, follow these steps: <br />
* Go to the release you'd like to add cover art to. <br />
* Click on Relate to URL <br />
* Select the '''has coverart at''' link type <br />
* For Jamendo and CD Baby enter the URL of the release page, e.g. [http://www.jamendo.com/album/1003/ http://www.jamendo.com/album/1003/] or [http://cdbaby.com/cd/esposthumus http://cdbaby.com/cd/esposthumus] <br />
* For other sites enter the URL to the '''image itself''' (i.e. ends in .jpg or .JPG) <br />
** [http://www.archive.org/download/xgn017_-_dissident/xgn017.jpg archive.org] <br />
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* For CD Baby and Jamendo, you're done. For archive.org, proceed to the next step <br />
* Since archive.org does not have a consistent scheme for music URLs and coverart URLs, you need to add a separate '''get the music''' link to the music page. (e.g. [http://www.archive.org/details/xgn017_-_dissident http://www.archive.org/details/xgn017_-_dissident]). You can choose any of the 4 ''get the music' link sub-types. <br />
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That should link in the cover art and make sure the Info link below the cover art goes to the right place. <br />
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Ruoak has said that links to art on artist's own website may be linked to, but '''only''' if written permission to do so is requested and received from the artist or their representative. In such a case, that written permission '''must''' be published here in the wiki. -- [[User:BrianFreud|BrianFreud]] [2007-05-10:4:33EST] <br />
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===Using Archive.org's Wayback Machine===<br />
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Upon a consultation with our IP attorney Ed Cavazos, linking to images in the Wayback machine is OK. You may link any type of album cover in the wayback machine, including bootlegs. However, if we receive a request to remove a link to a Wayback machine image from a copyright owner, we will comply and remove that link. <br />
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If you believe that MusicBrainz violates your copyright by linking to a Wayback machine image, please see [[Copyright Violation Notice|CopyrightViolationNotice]] for details on how to report a copyright violation to MusicBrainz. <br />
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==Contact==<br />
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This section should contain form letters that volunteers could use to ask for permission. Please volunteer to write such a letter! <br />
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==References==<br />
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Discussion on MB-Users: [http://www.nabble.com/Proposal%3A-URL-based-cover-art-tf2817425s2885.html#a7863760 http://www.nabble.com/Proposal%3A-URL-based-cover-art-tf2817425s2885.html#a7863760] <br />
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==FootNotes==<br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Cover Art]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Candidate_for_Deletion/Current&diff=29583Candidate for Deletion/Current2009-04-17T18:39:34Z<p>Adan Aileron: +</p>
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This page lists current candidates for deletion.<br />
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== [[Lazy User]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Lazy_User|Whatlinkshere/Lazy_User]]<br />
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[[Lazy User]] was marked for deletion in MoinMoin and has nothing interesting. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 16:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:LukasLalinsky|LukasLalinsky]] 18:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 Some weird tongue-in-cheek we-are-a-wiki-and-funny humor... [[User:Pronik|pronik]] 21:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Ukrainian Artists]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Ukrainian Artists|Whatlinkshere/Ukrainian Artists]]<br />
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These lists of artists would be much better as folksonomy tags. I've already tagged all these artists with 'ukrainian' and I don't think there's any other information on there that we might want to keep. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 12:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Remove TRM ID]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Remove TRM ID|Whatlinkshere/Remove TRM ID]]<br />
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This page only exists to redirect to a nonexistent page. [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 23:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 Totally pointless. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 09:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Link That Never Ends]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Link That Never Ends|Whatlinkshere/Link That Never Ends]]<br />
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This page was about an old MoinMoin bug. Not really relevant at all now. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 09:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 12:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[TRM Collision]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/TRM Collision|Whatlinkshere/TRM Collision]]<br />
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This page is woefully out of date. We don't have TRMs anymore, never mind TRM collisions. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 09:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 12:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WinAmp]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/WinAmp|Whatlinkshere/WinAmp]]<br />
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This page is only linked to a couple of times and Wikipedia has far more detailed information. I think it'd be better to just point people towards Wikipedia than try to document music players unrelated to us ourselves. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 09:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 12:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Moderator Language Template]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Moderator_Language_Template|Whatlinkshere/Moderator_Language_Template]]<br />
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This page doesn't serve much use anymore as we are now using categories. [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 14:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 00:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Arbitrary_URL_Feature]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Arbitrary_URL_Feature|Whatlinkshere/Arbitrary_URL_Feature]]<br />
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This page has relatively useless planning notes for creation of [[Advanced_Relationships]]. [[User:RobertKaye|RobertKaye]] 19:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 03:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 00:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Mailing List Template]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Mailing List Template|Whatlinkshere/Mailing List Template]]<br />
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We already have pages for all the mailing lists (which are mostly just duplicates of the data on [[Mailing List]]) and I don't think we'll be adding more mailing lists any time soon. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 08:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 No other pages link here. [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 03:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wiki Templates]] ==<br />
[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Wiki_Templates]]<br />
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[[Special:Allpages]] can do the same as this page (select the Template namespace). [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 08:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 03:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 07:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[PostgreSQL]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/PostgreSQL]]<br />
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No real content, linking to Wikipedia would suffice. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 00:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 19:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 17:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Artist ID]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Artist ID]]<br />
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The information on here is covered by [[MusicBrainz Identifier]]. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 03:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 19:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 Permanent ids are an important aspect of MB, thus I do think it's important to have it explicitly referenced/documented for each MB entity. Anyway not a big priority, there are a lot more junk to clean up before these ones, we can discuss that one we've a clear path for the documentation part of the wiki. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: How about using sections on [[MusicBrainz Identifier]] so they can be referred to with anchors (i.e. MusicBrainz Identifier#Artist ID) then? I really don't see the point in having 5 pages to explain what MusicBrainz IDs are when the content of each page is pretty much identical. The pages themselves aren't even very long, one paragraph (which copy/pasted between each page, with Artist changed to Release or whatever), one example and then loads of included template stuff. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 08:26, 1 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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* -1 For the same reason as above. Good or not, the current system for these pages is well linked by navigation cards, categories and a number of direct links to them. Changing all that for the sole benefit of aesthetic considerations is plain useless work IMHO. [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]<br />
:: I think in general the wiki needs a lot of condensing, we seem to have a sort of [[:Category:Terminology|one-page-for-every-thought]] kind of approach; not only is this aesthetically displeasing, but it is confusing and makes it hard to find all the relevant information on a topic one would want to look up. It is my opinion that we don't need to have an entire page dedicated to explaining what a [[Failed Dependency]] or [[Split Release]] is; I'm not suggesting that all the pages on [[:Category:Terminology]] be merged, but I think a lot of the smaller ones (eg. [[CAE]], [[IPI]], [[ISMN]], [[ISWC]]) can be safely condensed into one terminology/glossary type of page. <br />
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:: Following that train of thought, I think the same applies to "more important"/official WikiDocs pages; for example, it is my opinion that all the ARs in the [[Discography Relationship Class]] should be displayed in full on that page itself, instead of having small separate pages that become hard to interlink. In fact that same thing should be done for quite a few of the pages in [[:Category:Relationship Class]], [[:Category:Edit Types]], and wait for it, [[:Category:Identifier]]. Putting the various external links, cards, and categories aside for a moment, I don't think there is any reason for [[Track ID]] to exist on it's own when virtually all the same information already exists on [[MusicBrainz Identifier]]. Additionally, the four examples I gave from the terminology category are also in the identifier category, but if you look at their "[[Special:Whatlinkshere/IPI|backlinks]]" page it's evident that they just link to each other and the two categories which means they are very well hidden.<br />
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:: I believe instead of throwing each little page into a category (and spreading all the information out over multiple pages) we should instead either flesh the page out or incorporate it as a section into a bigger or "parent" page, thus improving wiki navigation. I apologize if this sounded like a rant, but when I first joined mb I had a terrible time navigating the wiki and finding relevant information about ARs and style guidelines, so this is something I've felt for quite a while and felt it was an important topic to discuss. [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 01:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Release ID]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Release ID]]<br />
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The information on here is covered by [[MusicBrainz Identifier]]. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 03:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 19:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 See Artist ID. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]<br />
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== [[Track ID]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Track ID]]<br />
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The information on here is covered by [[MusicBrainz Identifier]]. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 03:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 19:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 See Artist ID. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]<br />
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== [[Label ID]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Label ID]]<br />
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The information on here is covered by [[MusicBrainz Identifier]]. [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 03:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 19:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 See Artist ID. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* -1 [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]<br />
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== [[Wiki]] ==<br />
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[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Wiki]]<br />
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Everyone knows what is a wiki. Or we can link to the definition on Wikipedia if needed. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 18:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Edit All]] ==<br />
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Useless page. --[[User:PavanChander|navap]] 18:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Needs Intertwingling]] ==<br />
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Old cruft [[User:Pronik|pronik]] 19:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The page itself might be useless, but the "[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Needs_Intertwingling|backlinks]]" might come in handy. [[User:PavanChander|navap]] 00:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:A category would be better. - [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Racing The Tide]] ==<br />
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Move to annotations or whatever ... --[[User:Pronik|pronik]] 19:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 11:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Music Collection Web Service]] ==<br />
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This page has been incorporated into [[XML Web Service]] where it belongs. -- [[User:RobertKaye|RobertKaye]] 06:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Stylo G]] ==<br />
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We are not wikipedia [[User:Pronik|pronik]] 14:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 16:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:OliverCharles/AccessibleMusicBrainz]] ==<br />
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This information is well out of date, and is now the core MusicBrainz development.<br />
* +1 [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 16:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Falsehood_Wrong]] ==<br />
We are not wikipedia: this content doesn't belong to this wiki but rather to the artist annotation. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 16:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
* +1 [[User:Adan Aileron|Adan Aileron]] ([[User talk:Adan Aileron|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Cover_Art_Sites/Permission/Release_Permission&diff=29582History:Cover Art Sites/Permission/Release Permission2009-04-17T18:22:05Z<p>Adan Aileron: </p>
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<div>This page stores permission links for coverart which is made free for use by the rightsholder(s), under cc-by-nc or otherwise. <br />
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Please link to both the release and the page providing permission. If permission is granted by other means, such as an email, please copy the document into a subpage to this one, and provide a link to it from here. <br />
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'''It is ''not'' ok to simply add such artwork. Documentation of the permission ''must'' also be added here.''' <br />
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| Artist || Release || Permission<br />
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| [[Artist:8698de7f-8c4c-4395-a9b2-c438925c9b3a|Fura Bliss]] || [[Release:b919883d-9b40-45cf-8b5c-c49fe5d5a268|Future Ghost Wilderness]] || [http://www.furabliss.de/fura-bliss-creative-commons-license.html "Coverart of CDr "Future Ghost Wilderness" by Fura Bliss is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 Germany License."]<br />
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| [[Artist:92b5bfb8-83d3-4fbf-a129-9ae7dfed86e5|Tyde T, Dane D, Paulo, Randolph Clooney, Phobia & Spohr]] || [[Release:932b632d-f9e0-40a8-85c8-b62aab29b2b7|Til alle tider]] || [[Cover Art Sites/Permission For Artwork/Dhhu Til Alle Tider|Permission from site owner]]<br />
|}<br />
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[[Cover Art Sites|CoverArtSites]] <br />
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Cover Art]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Cover_Art_Sites/Permission/Release_Permission&diff=29581History:Cover Art Sites/Permission/Release Permission2009-04-17T18:21:48Z<p>Adan Aileron: move discussion to talk page</p>
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<div>This page stores permission links for coverart which is made free for use by the rightsholder(s), under cc-by-nc or otherwise. <br />
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Please link to both the release and the page providing permission. If permission is granted by other means, such as an email, please copy the document into a subpage to this one, and provide a link to it from here. <br />
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'''It is ''not'' ok to simply add such artwork. Documentation of the permission ''must'' also be added here.''' <br />
{| border="1"<br />
|-<br />
| Artist || Release || Permission<br />
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| [[Artist:8698de7f-8c4c-4395-a9b2-c438925c9b3a|Fura Bliss]] || [[Release:b919883d-9b40-45cf-8b5c-c49fe5d5a268|Future Ghost Wilderness]] || [http://www.furabliss.de/fura-bliss-creative-commons-license.html "Coverart of CDr "Future Ghost Wilderness" by Fura Bliss is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 Germany License."]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Artist:92b5bfb8-83d3-4fbf-a129-9ae7dfed86e5|Tyde T, Dane D, Paulo, Randolph Clooney, Phobia & Spohr]] || [[Release:932b632d-f9e0-40a8-85c8-b62aab29b2b7|Til alle tider]] || [[Cover Art Sites/Permission For Artwork/Dhhu Til Alle Tider|Permission from site owner]]<br />
|}<br />
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==Discussion==<br />
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[[Cover Art Sites|CoverArtSites]] <br />
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Cover Art]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History_talk:Cover_Art_Sites/Permission/Release_Permission&diff=29580History talk:Cover Art Sites/Permission/Release Permission2009-04-17T18:21:36Z<p>Adan Aileron: New page: Surely the permission to use their image is not the same as permission to use their server bandwidth? I think we could argue that it's ok to use any artwork thanks to fair use, but it's th...</p>
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<div>Surely the permission to use their image is not the same as permission to use their server bandwidth? I think we could argue that it's ok to use any artwork thanks to fair use, but it's the actual delivery of that image that is the issue. --[[User:Gecks|Gecks]] <br />
:That's important, yes. And therefor this page is only meant for individual permissions for single images. Other agreements must still be listed on [[Cover Art Sites|CoverArtSites]]. Maybe this should be made more clear on this page. -- [[User:OutsideContext|OutsideContext]] <br />
::Quite, but current image in this list seems to be have been added based on the fact that it is free for use under a creative commons license, which is not the same thing as a 'you can use our server bandwidth' license. --[[User:Gecks|Gecks]] <br />
:::I think the bandwidth is a decent consideration, one we've not really addressed anywhere. One counter consideration though, and I really have no idea as to this one's answer... I don't know what the cc-by-nc 2.0 Germany license actually says (let alone any other license that may in future be used and cause an image to be listed here.) Does it allow us to re-host the image, be it here, or at Archive, or elsewhere? Let's ignore the wayback machine arguments here - specifically with regards to this image, does that license allow us to re-host the image to Archive for display? If we do so, don't we detach it from the license itself and thus technically break the license? -- -- [[Brian Schweitzer|BrianSchweitzer]] 14:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC) <br />
::::bandwidth is the only consideration, so far. as shown with the use of archive.org, evidently the MBz community don't care too much about usage licenses! As far as I know, cc-by-nc allows you to rehost an image, provided the image is presented under the same license, i guess. --[[User:Gecks|Gecks]] <br />
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===Licenses===<br />
I just noted that the one "given" permission listed above is a [[Creative Commons|CreativeCommons]] one, with a [[No Commercial|NoCommercial]] (nc) clause. I know that [[MetaBrainz]] is a non-profit institution, but if I'm not much mistaken, certain services (e.g. [[Live Data Feed|LiveDataFeed]]) are commercial in nature, and while we can nullify [[MusicBrainz]]' ''own'' NC clause for the clients (or "customers"), we can't just nullify anyone else's. As I see it, this means that we'll either have to not accept licenses with NC clauses, or store license/permission in the db along with the relevant data, and not push that into MB's "commercial" products. (Note that we can still ask the respective copyright holder(s) to gain an exception to the NC clause.) Thoughts anyone? -- [[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]] 14:54, 08 March 2008 (UTC)</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Indexed_Search_Syntax&diff=28428Indexed Search Syntax2009-03-19T23:23:54Z<p>Adan Aileron: converted some HTML to wiki syntax</p>
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<div>{{DocumentationHeader}} <br />
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This page describes the syntax for MusicBrainz ''indexed searches'' which use the Lucene text search engine. The search indexes for these types of searches are updated once a day, and thus may not reflect up to the minute changes. The ''direct search'' searches the database directly, but it can only carry out simple keyword searches with no boolean logic, but it is always up-to-date. <br />
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==Overview==<br />
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Lucene offers much flexibility in defining search queries for all needs imaginable. To make it easier to understand, this page was divided into subpages. While this one offers an introduction to the most commonly used features, the others explain more advanced search operators and constructs. <br />
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First some words on the the terminology used in these pages: <br />
;Query: A query is the complete expression you put in one of the search fields.<br />
;Term: A term is the smallest unit inside a query. In the default case each single word inside a query is a term of its own, except for ... <br />
;Phrases: A phrase is a groups of words surrounded by quotation marks. Even though it's containing more than one word, a phrase is handled like a term. <br />
;Operators: or '''search operators''' are special characters and words that define either how single terms are processed by the search system (e.g. in '''-house''' the '''-''' tells the search system, not to return anything with the word ''house'') or how to terms are to be combined in the search (e.g. '''one AND love''' means search for anything that has both words ''one'' and ''love''). <br />
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The sections below [[Text Search Syntax#query-syntax|Query Syntax]] describe simple and commonly used operators, in [[Text Search Syntax/Advanced Syntax|/AdvancedSyntax]] you'll find the more complicated and seldomly needed features of the search interface. <br />
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But first take a look at a few simple examples which might show everything necessary for the majority of your searches. <br />
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==Example searches==<br />
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===Artists===<br />
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: '''tori amos''' <br />
::* search artist, sortname and alias fields <br />
: '''comment:electronic''' <br />
::* search for the word ''electronic'' in artist disambiguation (comment) fields <br />
: '''begin:1984 AND type:group''' <br />
::* search for all groups formed in 1984 <br />
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===Releases===<br />
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:'''café del mar''' <br />
::* search for all ''Café del Mar'' albums <br />
:'''"the understanding" AND artist:royksopp''' <br />
::* search for the album ''The Understanding'' by the artist ''Röyksopp'' <br />
:'''date:1999 AND country:de AND rock''' <br />
::* search for releases from Germany in 1999 with the word ''rock'' in them <br />
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===Tracks===<br />
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:'''type:album AND amadeus''' <br />
::* search for tracks with the title ''amadeus'' from albums <br />
:'''day life''' <br />
::* will retrieve ''A Day In The Life'' <br />
::* will retrieve ''Life In A Day'' <br />
::* will retrieve ''This Day'' <br />
::* will retrieve ''That's Life'' <br />
:'''day AND life''' <br />
::* will retrieve ''A Day In The Life'' <br />
::* will retrieve ''Life In A Day'' <br />
::* will not retrieve ''This Day'' <br />
::* will not retrieve ''That's Life'' <br />
:'''"day in the life"''' <br />
::* will retrieve ''A Day In The Life'' <br />
::* will not retrieve ''Life In A Day'' <br />
::* will not retrieve ''This Day'' <br />
::* will not retrieve ''That's Life'' <br />
:'''"voodoo people" AND artist:"the prodigy"''' <br />
::* search for all tracks with the title ''Voodoo People'' by the artist ''The Prodigy'' <br />
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==Query syntax==<br />
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===Wildcards===<br />
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To perform a single character wildcard search use the "?" symbol. To perform a multiple character wildcard search use the "*" symbol. For example, to search for "text" or "test" you can use the search '''te?t''', to search for "test", "tests" or "tester", you can use the search '''test*'''. <br />
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''Note: You cannot use a * or ? symbol as the first character of a search.'' <br />
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===Fuzzy searches===<br />
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To do a fuzzy search use the tilde, "~", symbol at the end of a single word term. Optionally can specify the required similarity, a value is between 0 and 1. For example to search for a term similar in spelling to "roam" use the fuzzy search '''roam~''' or '''roam~0.8''' <br />
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==MusicBrainz specific search fields==<br />
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===Artists===<br />
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The artist index contains the following fields you can search: <br />
{| border="1"<br />
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| '''field''' || '''Description''' <br />
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| arid || artist id <br />
|-<br />
| artist || artist name <br />
|-<br />
| sortname || artist sortname <br />
|-<br />
| type || artist type (person or group)<br />
|-<br />
| begin || artist birth date/band founding date <br />
|-<br />
| end || artist death date/band dissolution date <br />
|-<br />
| comment || artist comment to differentiate similar artists <br />
|-<br />
| alias || the aliases/misspellings for this artist <br />
|}<br />
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Artist search terms with no fields specified search the ''artist'', ''sortname'' and ''alias'' fields. <br />
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===Releases===<br />
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The release index contains these fields: <br />
{| border="1"<br />
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| '''field''' || '''Description''' <br />
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| reid || release id <br />
|-<br />
| release || release name <br />
|-<br />
| arid || artist id <br />
|-<br />
| artist || artist name <br />
|-<br />
| type || release type (album, single, ep, compilation, soundtrack, spokenword, interview, audiobook, live, remix, other) <br />
|-<br />
| status || release status (official, promotion, bootleg, pseudo-release) <br />
|-<br />
| tracks || number of tracks in the release <br />
|-<br />
| discids || number of cd ids for the release <br />
|-<br />
| date || earliest release date for the release <br />
|-<br />
| asin || the Amazon ASIN for <br />
|-<br />
| lang || The language for this release. Use the [http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php three character ISO 639 codes] to search for a specific language. (e.g. lang:eng)<br />
|-<br />
| script || The [http://unicode.org/iso15924/iso15924-codes.html 4 character script code] (e.g. latn) used for this release <br />
|-<br />
| country || The [http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/iso_3166_code_lists/english_country_names_and_code_elements.htm two letter country code] for the release country<br />
|-<br />
| date || The release date<br />
|-<br />
| label || The name of the label for this release<br />
|-<br />
| catno || The catalog number for this release<br />
|-<br />
| barcode || The barcode in a release event attached to a release <br />
|}<br />
<br />
Release search terms with no fields search the ''release'' field only. <br />
<br />
===Tracks===<br />
<br />
And track searches can contain: <br />
{| border="1"<br />
|-<br />
| '''field''' || '''Description''' <br />
|-<br />
| trid || track id <br />
|-<br />
| track || track name <br />
|-<br />
| arid || artist id <br />
|-<br />
| artist || artist name <br />
|-<br />
| reid || release id <br />
|-<br />
| release || release name <br />
|-<br />
| type || release type (album, single, ep, compilation, soundtrack, spokenword, interview, audiobook, live, remix, other) <br />
|-<br />
| tracks || number of tracks in the release <br />
|-<br />
| dur || duration of track in milliseconds <br />
|-<br />
| qdur || quantized duration (duration / 2000) <br />
|-<br />
| tnum || track number <br />
|}<br />
<br />
Track search terms with no fields search the ''track'' field only. <br />
<br />
===Labels===<br />
<br />
The label index contains the following fields you can search: <br />
{| border="1"<br />
|-<br />
| '''field''' || '''Description''' <br />
|-<br />
| laid || label id <br />
|-<br />
| label || label name <br />
|-<br />
| sortname || label sortname <br />
|-<br />
| type || label type <br />
|-<br />
| code || label code (only the figures part, i.e. without "LC") <br />
|-<br />
| country || The [http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/iso_3166_code_lists/english_country_names_and_code_elements.htm two letter country code] of the label country <br />
|-<br />
| begin || label founding date <br />
|-<br />
| end || label dissolution date <br />
|-<br />
| comment || label comment to differentiate similar labels <br />
|-<br />
| alias || the aliases/misspellings for this label <br />
|}<br />
<br />
===FreeDB Releases===<br />
<br />
The [[FreeDB]] index contains the following fields you can search: <br />
{| border="1"<br />
|-<br />
| '''field''' || '''Description''' <br />
|-<br />
| artist || artist name <br />
|-<br />
| title || release name <br />
|-<br />
| discid || FreeDB id <br />
|-<br />
| cat || FreeDB category <br />
|-<br />
| year || year <br />
|-<br />
| tracks || number of tracks in the release <br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Questions==<br />
<br />
''If you know the answer to these, please remove the question and integrate the answer into the docs above.'' <br />
* Is there a way to search for an album based on its length? I'm currently grabbing all results and filtering them by summing their track durations. Is the value computed on the fly from the tracks for each release page? --[[Chris Colvard|ChrisColvard]] <br />
** No, that is not possible. You can search for the total number of tracks. --[[User:RobertKaye|RobertKaye]] <br />
<br />
* Is there also a searchable field for the media type, not just the date? ie "media:1" where 1=CD? -- [[Brian Schweitzer|BrianSchweitzer]] 12:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC) <br />
** No, that is also not available -- [[User:RobertKaye|RobertKaye]] <br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:WikiDocs Page]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Trigger_Based_Replication&diff=28420History:Trigger Based Replication2009-03-19T21:29:53Z<p>Adan Aileron: prettyfy</p>
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<div>==Trigger Based MusicBrainz Data Replication==<br />
<br />
This approach is based on the following idea: <br />
# Each table to be replicated gets three trigger functions added: <br />
## One trigger for added rows <br />
## One trigger for removed rows <br />
## One trigger for changed rows <br />
<br />
# Each of these triggers will write rows into a replication changes table <br />
# A bot will fire off periodically (once an hour) and traverse the replication changes table and dump all the rows since the last bot run to a dump file. <br />
# This dump file will be timestamped, compressed and placed onto the FTP server. <br />
# An XML file that contains a list of the recent update packages will be available on the FTP server. Clients can download this file to discover what packages they will need in order to come up to speed. <br />
<br />
Slaves that wish to keep their data up to date will follow these steps: <br />
# Go to the main FTP site and download the update package(s) since it last checked the FTP site. <br />
# For each packet, in serial number order, unpack and apply the data with the following steps: <br />
## For each new row, add the row. <br />
## For an update, replace the row with the new row from the update package <br />
## For a deletion, delete the row in question. <br />
<br />
The above mentioned replication table will have the following columns: <br />
<br />
integer tableid (what is the best way to enumerate this in SQL?) <br />
<br />
integer rowid <br />
<br />
timestamp ts <br />
<br />
tinyint operation (one of ADD (0), UPDATE (1), REMOVE (2) ) <br />
<br />
The dump packets will have the following format, one line per row to be replicated: <br />
<br />
tableid <tab> rowid <tab> timestamp <tab> operation <tab> [optional <tab> separated row values for ADD/UPDATE ops) <br />
<br />
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<br />
Is the opensourcing of Postrges's replication solution relevant here? Th press release can be found at [http://lwn.net/Articles/46576/ http://lwn.net/Articles/46576/] <br />
<br />
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Replication]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Wiki_Wardening&diff=28416History:Wiki Wardening2009-03-19T21:08:54Z<p>Adan Aileron: </p>
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<div><small>WikiWardening > WikiWardening | [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]s </small> <br />
{| border="1"<br />
|-<br />
| '''Content'''<br/><br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Purpose==<br />
<br />
Early 2007, a new attempt is made to push the wiki forward and drastically enhance both the documentation quality and the wiki health state as a whole. This page serves as a fast moving memo for [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]s to coordinate their work. It has no special structure, no rules, will be heavily edited, and most discussion started here will certainly be [[Delete When Cooked|DeleteWhenCooked]]. Still, ideas and discussion that are worth keeping may be moved to another page if there is a need for that (like [[Wiki Wardening History|WikiWardeningHistory]]). We should try our best to keep this document to a reasonable size and try restructure it from time to time (note it's already quite big and indigest, so hang on!). <br />
<br />
If you see anything in the documentation or in the wiki that should be addressed, report it here, or contact a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]. <br />
<br />
==Tickets watching==<br />
<br />
Short term objectives: <br />
* [[Ticket:2320|2320]]: Upgrade [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] ([[Image:Attention.png]] pending resolution: see [[Updating To MoinMoin 1.5|UpdatingToMoinMoin1.5]] [[Image:Attention.png]]) <br />
* [[Ticket:2672|2672]]: Cards and transclusion behavior <br />
* [[Ticket:1962|1962]]: Transclusion hasn't worked so well so far, lack of manpower <br />
: -> We need to develop a [[Helpful Transclusion Interface|HelpfulTransclusionInterface]]! <br />
* [[Ticket:2705|2705]]: wiki.mb.org: Need new interwiki link for [[MusicBrainz]] codes sources <br />
* [[Ticket:2625|2625]]: wiki.mb.org: Need new interwiki links for other Wikipedia (fr, de, ...) <br />
<br />
Transclusion improvements: <br />
* [[Ticket:1489|1489]]: Wiki transclusion data in wrong place <br />
* [[Ticket:1112|1112]]: Wiki Transclusion should check for correct [[Wiki Name|WikiName]] and Revision Number <br />
* also read some of the comments @ [[Ticket:1962|1962]]: <br />
<br />
Low priority and questionable enhancements: <br />
* [[Ticket:1799|1799]]: [[WikiDocs]] does not produce valid XHTML <br />
* [[Ticket:1530|1530]]: Show transcluded wiki page in user profile in main site. <br />
<br />
Long term objectives: <br />
* [[Ticket:849|849]]: Provide translations for key documentation <br />
<br />
==WantedPages==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
In its current state, [[Special:WantedPages|WantedPages]] is unusable. When this effort started, we were above 1100 links. Now below 850. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Further bring it down (possibly ~500/600 links) by fixing bogus and misspelled links. Once it's there, keep it under surveillance. Note that creating documentation for ''valid'' [[Special:WantedPages|WantedPages]] is not a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]] task: everybody can and should do that. <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
* A lot of links in there are "just bogus" (accidental CamelCase, wrong use of brackets ["ASIN"], etc). All of these should be "fixed" (edited so that they don't link anymore). <br />
* Some links in there are typo-ed, and should be properly edited to point to the correct page. <br />
* Some links are outdated (page has moved), they should be fixed also <br />
* broken sigs: some [[WikiZen]] have troubles spelling their own names :-) ([[User:Ruaok|Ruaok]], among other) - help them for their own good! <br />
* missing redirect: some [[WikiZen]] have a personal page, but use a differently named wiki account. Create the redirection page for them. <br />
* Jazz/Label/* created quite a lot of bogus links, as they often contain records catalogs, with camelcased names. These pages will eventually disappear. Meanwhile, you can inhibit the links <br />
<br />
[[Image:Attention.png]] Just don't "inhibit" anything you see! Specially: <br />
* don't inhibit sigs for wiki editors without personal pages (they might want to create one later)! <br />
* ''Never'' create empty pages. A wanted page is much better than a contentless stub. <br />
* think twice before inhibiting things that looks like [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]] of otherwise valid [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]. <br />
* when in doubt, just leave them alone! <br />
<br />
===Tips===<br />
<br />
* <s>to inhibit a camelcased link, use <code><nowiki>!BogusLink</nowiki></code>. </s> not relevant; MediaWiki doesn't use CamelCase links<br />
* to inhibit a bracketed link, use entities instead of brackets: <code><nowiki>&#91;"Bogus Link"&#93;</nowiki></code>, or just use nowiki tags: <nowiki>&lt;nowiki>[[Bogus Link]]&lt;/nowiki></nowiki><br />
<br />
A short [[WikiZen]] lecture ;-) on [[Special:WantedPages|WantedPages]]: Sometimes a wanted page serves a purpose: It carries the information that there is ''something'' that people refer to, but nobody has taken the time to explain what it is, yet. It also helps to create the intertwingled links for a page that does not exist, yet. This way once the page is created, it is already well intertwingled. In rare cases a wanted page can even give a very realistic notion of a 'blank', or taboo, or untold story. IIRC [[MeatBall:SunirResigns|SunirResigns]] on MeatBall was a very interesting example of this (I don't know if any trace remains of it). <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
* slowly retreating, but still annoying everybody with his obscure sociological ideas: ;-) [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
<br />
==Monitor incoming pages==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
Pages are created by everybody, from [[Wiki Master|WikiMaster]]s to [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]s. The later usually don't use categories, don't sign their edits, don't intertwingle things, use [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]]s, don't check spelling, introduce bogus links, or even create completely useless pages. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Monitor all page creation: immediately check the spelling, and at least mark these pages with the relevant [[Wiki Tag|WikiTag]]s: <br />
* [[Needs Editing|NeedsEditing]] <br />
* [[Needs Intertwingling|NeedsIntertwingling]] <br />
* [[Needs Renaming|NeedsRenaming]] <br />
* [[Needs Restructuring|NeedsRestructuring]] <br />
* [[Needs Updating|NeedsUpdating]] <br />
* [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] <br />
* [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] <br />
* <nowiki>{{Stub}}</nowiki><br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
A Wiki lives because it's growing. Be kind to [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]s and don't discourage vocations by being a [[Wiki Bitch|WikiBitch]]. Help new users and enhance existing content integration and formal quality, but don't pass judgment on content or clumsiness of the editors. Remember you're a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]: above all, do no harm. <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
<br />
==Obtain MoinMoin upgrade==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
We are stuck with an old [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] full of [[Link That Never Ends|deranging bugs]] and badly outdated. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Collect enough choco to bribe [[User:Ruaok|Ruaok]] so he updates [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] to 1.5.x. but stop spamming him about this. :p The relevant ticket is [[Ticket:2320|2320]]. <br />
<br />
Note that the syntax and behavior of Cards will change with the update to 1.5. <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
All! (note that Europeans have the best choco) <br />
<br />
==DeletedPage==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
We have quite a lot of pages completely useless or irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]]. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
* They should be removed, and if any, all the links to them replaced by proper links to other resources (eg: [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]]). <br />
* Update and simplify the informal "deletion mechanism" (that we inherited). Update the relevant documentation. <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
* Please don't delete pages that present historical interest. These are handled differently. They need <br />
** A good status notice that puts the page into context. If you cannot provide this, ask some elders. <br />
** A category history <br />
<br />
* Please don't delete personal pages, even empty, even abandoned for years, even orphaned (though you may eventually edit them to at least be of CategoryPerson). They serve as a witness of people who contributed to MusicBrainz in the early days. It is ok that the wiki evolves without them, but it's not ok to erase these people from our history. Maybe a short sentence like "XY was a contributor to this wiki in its prehistoric times (i.e. before migration to [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]])" is better than a completely empty page. <br />
<br />
You may want to take a look at [[Abandoned Pages|AbandonedPages]] and [[Special:LonelyPages|OrphanedPages]] (and also to [[:Category:Stubs]]) to find [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]]. Also, you may want to review pages that don't directly pertain to [[MusicBrainz]] (pages on foreign technologies/random topics for example). Most of them should be superseded by their equivalent (better and maintained) pages at [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]]. <br />
<br />
Tips for [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]s not member of the [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]]: <br />
* if you're sure a page should be deleted, add a [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] tag somewhere in it, with some arguments <br />
* if you think, but are not sure a page should be deleted, use [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] instead <br />
* subscribe to this page, so you are notified of changes on it and can answer people <br />
* wait a month. If no one reacts negatively, either change the tag from [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] to [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] and wait a bit more, or if it is already a [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]], bug somebody in the [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]] so that he deletes the page effectively <br />
<br />
Tips for members of [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]]: <br />
* do a full text search on the wiki to list all links pointing to the [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]]: something like <code><nowiki>[[FullSearch(linkto:DumbPage)]]</nowiki></code> <br />
* replace all links by their proper replacement: if there is no legit replacement, then this page probably shouldn't be deleted! <br />
* [[Dont Delete Wiki Docs Pages|DontDeleteWikiDocsPages]]! You '''must not''' do it, it would break [[WikiDocs]]. Luckily you can't, since [[WikiDocs Page|WikiDocsPage]]s are delete protected. If you are in doubt check if the page is in the [[Wiki Docs Transclusion Table|WikiDocsTransclusionTable]]. To deal with a [[WikiDocs]] page listed in [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] you'll have extra work to do (and you'll need a [[Transclusion Editor|TransclusionEditor]] and a member of the [[Admin Group|AdminGroup]]) <br />
* triple check that you're doing the right thing <br />
* delete the page <br />
<br />
Right now, there are a bunch of pages in [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]]. They wait for review from [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] and others, and they may be deleted at the end of April 2007. Please also monitor [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]]. <br />
<br />
[[Image:Attention.png]] Important note: some/most/all of these pages are '''not ready''' to be deleted. Some of them still have a lot of links that point to them, some of them are even [[WikiDocs]] pages! They are there because we think they should be deleted - in a month, before doing so, and if no-one vetoes on their deletion, a preliminary work will have to be done prior to their actual deletion. <br />
<br />
You do not expect me to give you an ok for each and every page, do you? MB has enough bureaucracy already. I have commented on some, where I disagree. I believe there are some more that could be left if you look at them from a different, gentler angle. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
:hé :-) I believe this is why [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] is a good process. This leave time to take a second (or third) (gentler) look at things and change mind. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 19:35, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
* [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
<br />
==Pages that should point to Wikipedia instead==<br />
<br />
See [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] above. Maybe maintain a list of these here. <br />
<br />
==Jazz==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
This is my mess. There are several problems with the Jazz/Label/* pages which include: <br />
* bogus camel links (see [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]) <br />
* pages appear orphaned <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
* Migrate all relevant data into [[MusicBrainz]] (now that we have labels!). <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
Just ignore these pages whenever they appear (but in [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]) <br />
<br />
==WikiNewbies==<br />
<br />
Create a page for [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]s with good practice guidelines on this wiki. This may be [[Good Wiki Style|GoodWikiStyle]], but it needs enhancement. <br />
<br />
With a (short) checklist of things to verify (intertwingling, categories, spelling, etc). <br />
<br />
==WikiCategories==<br />
<br />
'''Objective:''' Establish [[Wiki Categories|WikiCategories]] to be used everywhere in the wiki <br />
<br />
Please see and comment [[Talk:Wiki Categories|WikiCategoriesDiscussion]] <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
<br />
==Historical pages==<br />
<br />
<small>'''Depends on [[Wiki Categories|WikiCategories]]'''</small> <br />
<br />
Create an entry point like [[History Of MusicBrainz|HistoryOfMusicBrainz]] for historical pages. Create special categories for historical proposal, historical guidelines, ... <br />
<br />
'''Note:''' there's also a page with a similar name: [[MusicBrainz History|MusicBrainzHistory]] that we should maybe rename (but this is a WikiDocsPage) <br />
<br />
==Promote transclusion==<br />
<br />
I'm not sure [[WikiDocs]] and transclusion are directly related to WikiWardening: a [[Transclusion Editor|TransclusionEditor]] sure need to be a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]] of his wikidocs pages, but a lot of wikipages don't need to be [[WikiDocs]]. Might be related to restructurating/documenting distinction. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 16:52, 05 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
:Sure. And we definitely need to separate documentation efforts, and restructuration/wardening. Though, I think both belong here, because of a simple fact: we don't have arms enough to afford the separation... For now, all manpower is here I guess :-) -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 19:33, 05 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
::For reference, previous wiki improvement attempt has been split in [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] and [[Restructuring The Documentation|RestructuringTheDocumentation]]. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 00:07, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
<br />
Split documentation into responsibilities zones. <br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]: <br />
** [[MBWiki:CategoryAnnotation|CategoryAnnotation]]: clean, transcluded <br />
** [[MBWiki:CategoryLabel|CategoryLabel]]: some work to do, transclusion ASAP <br />
<br />
Raw ideas: <br />
* suggestion for a new transclusion interface on [[Ticket:1962|1962]] <br />
* propose the use of "transclusion zones" and fine grained transclusion rights management <br />
<br />
==Open Questions==<br />
<br />
* Category nesting (murdos). <br />
* think of a masterplan about categories. <br />
* *really* investigate transclusion behavior and hacks to be able to easily do full searches on transcluded documentation rather than on wiki content <br />
<br />
==Raw ideas and various things todo==<br />
<br />
* Promote the use of cards (don't forget that Cards on navigation don't really behave nicely) <br />
:But don't overuse them ;-) <br />
* Build templates for cards <br />
* niceify the documentation! Random ideas: <br />
** use some specific style to make nav and intertwingling cards look a bit different (dirty hack: call the card from within a styled table) <br />
** use "smileys" to underline semantic value of things <br />
** use different icons in the head of pages, that "reflects" the part of the documentation we are in (eg: categories or "topic"). <br />
<br />
* investigate Cards/Intertwingling ideas (think [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]] "portals") <br />
* differentiate restructuring tasks (defining categories, renaming, ...) and improving content tasks (updating docs, ...) <br />
* find some documentation about FullSearch macro (where the heck is it located?) <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[MoinMoin:HelpOnSearching|HelpOnSearching]], or you want more? If think we should also document the different behavior between FullSearch(linkto:Page) and FullSearch(Page): the first works on generated content (after macro expanding), although the second seems to work on text source. Both have inconvenience... :| -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 00:07, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
</ul><br />
* move my ass to have Label doc in a decent state <br />
* discuss if we want to addto ".+Future" pages, or if we want a new category. <br />
* investigate the behavior of Cards with arguments, and how to use that for status card differentiation depending on the caller page in transcluded pages. <br />
* discuss if the current structure used on annotation is a good thing (or not) that we could reuse as a "template" for a number of other things (Artist, Release...): <br />
** all pages have the category of the topic (eg: [[MBWiki:CategoryAnnotation|CategoryAnnotation]]) <br />
** Navigation and intertwingling cards. <br />
** Pages declined following: <br />
*** Mainpage (eg: Annotation) <br />
*** FAQ (eg: AnnotationFAQ, plus category FAQ) <br />
*** Howto (eg: [[How Annotations Work|HowAnnotationsWork]], plus category Howto) <br />
*** History (eg: [[Annotation History|AnnotationHistory]], plus category History) <br />
*** Discussion (eg: [[Talk:Annotation|AnnotationDiscussion]], plus category Discussion) <br />
*** Future (eg: [[Annotation Future|AnnotationFuture]], actually plus category Discussion, maybe Development or something else) <br />
*** Edits doc <br />
*** [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]] documentation (not for Annotation obviously) <br />
*** Additional documentation specific to the topic <br />
<br />
* Add an historical notice, rename and/or reuse/update pages of previous wiki restructuring attempt: [[Big Mess|BigMess]], [[Status Of This Wiki|StatusOfThisWiki]], [[Restructuring The Documentation|RestructuringTheDocumentation]], [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] <br />
* Use [[WikiDocs]] related pages for [[WikiDocs]] work <br />
* Think about translating documentation. This is a long term objective. Here's a partial copy of a private mail by [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]], with some interesting thoughts: <br />
<br />
<pre> "I believe this does not make sense before MB has language sub-communities. MB is still too small for that. I would not start to translate documentation. This is an enormous, tedious, and never-ending task, and in the worst case nobody will use your work. So, if you *want* to start this, I'd suggest you build up a French<br />
sub-community first. With some nice welcome-pages and stuff. *Then* if there are a few people around (not under six active and over a dozen casual contributors, a few active French forum threads, and a feeling of "we") the french pages will probably start to grow all by their own. That is the moment to recognise. Then you push a lot of energy and enthusiasm into it. [...] French and German are best candidates for this, although French are less used to do everything in English (which is an advantage here)."<br />
</pre><br />
* Update [[WikiDocs]] related pages (attachments, includes, cards, etc. Also see [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] 1.5 migration) ([[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]'s mess) <br />
<br />
==Things here for some reason :-)==<br />
<br />
===Orphaned redirects (non personal pages)===<br />
<br />
Some of them may be used by tagger clients: <br />
* CapitalizationStandardFrisian <br />
* DanishCapitalisationStandard <br />
* ArtistNameStyle <br />
* ChoralWorksNamesTranslations <br />
* !SpecialUUIDs <br />
* AR <br />
<br />
===Links to pages that shouldn't appear in OrphanedPages...===<br />
<br />
See [[Wiki Wardening/Wrongly Orphaned Pages|WikiWardening/WronglyOrphanedPages]] <br />
<br />
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Development]] [[Category:Discussion]] [[Category:To Do List]] [[Category:Wiki]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Request_For_Veto&diff=28412Request For Veto2009-03-19T20:08:24Z<p>Adan Aileron: stub -> {{stub}}</p>
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<div>The last stage in a proposal on the Style mailinglist (see [[Style Council|StyleCouncil]]) to change a [[MusicBrainz]] guideline, practice, or policy. Follows a [[Request For Comment|RequestForComment]]. <br />
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{{Stub}} [[Needs Editing|NeedsEditing]] [[Needs Intertwingling|NeedsIntertwingling]] <br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Proposal]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=mBChatLogger&diff=28400mBChatLogger2009-03-19T20:01:40Z<p>Adan Aileron: stub -> {{stub}}</p>
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<div>{{DocumentationHeader|Communication}} <br />
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=MB Chat Logger=<br />
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MBChatLogger is an [[IRC]] Bot that logs all conversation in #musicbrainz to the [http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/ Chat logs] <br />
<br />
==Commands==<br />
<br />
* MBChatLogger: off - this turns off the loging function until MBChatLogger is told to begin logging again <br />
* MBChatLogger: on - this turns on the logging function after MBChatLogger has been told to stop logging <br />
<br />
MBChatLogger also responds to a small handful of random phrases but you'll just have to check out #musicbrainz to figure out what those phrases are <br />
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{{Stub}}<br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Communication Forum]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Wiki_Wardening&diff=28399History:Wiki Wardening2009-03-19T20:01:05Z<p>Adan Aileron: relink to stub category</p>
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<div><small>WikiWardening > WikiWardening | [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s </small> <br />
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==Purpose==<br />
<br />
Early 2007, a new attempt is made to push the wiki forward and drastically enhance both the documentation quality and the wiki health state as a whole. This page serves as a fast moving memo for [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s to coordinate their work. It has no special structure, no rules, will be heavily edited, and most discussion started here will certainly be [[Delete When Cooked|DeleteWhenCooked]]. Still, ideas and discussion that are worth keeping may be moved to another page if there is a need for that (like [[Wiki Wardening History|WikiWardeningHistory]]). We should try our best to keep this document to a reasonable size and try restructure it from time to time (note it's already quite big and indigest, so hang on!). <br />
<br />
If you see anything in the documentation or in the wiki that should be addressed, report it here, or contact a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]. <br />
<br />
==Tickets watching==<br />
<br />
Short term objectives: <br />
* [[Ticket:2320|2320]]: Upgrade [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] ([[Image:Attention.png]] pending resolution: see [[Updating To MoinMoin 1.5|UpdatingToMoinMoin1.5]] [[Image:Attention.png]]) <br />
* [[Ticket:2672|2672]]: Cards and transclusion behavior <br />
* [[Ticket:1962|1962]]: Transclusion hasn't worked so well so far, lack of manpower <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">-> We need to develop a [[Helpful Transclusion Interface|HelpfulTransclusionInterface]]! <br />
</ul><br />
* [[Ticket:2705|2705]]: wiki.mb.org: Need new interwiki link for [[MusicBrainz]] codes sources <br />
* [[Ticket:2625|2625]]: wiki.mb.org: Need new interwiki links for other Wikipedia (fr, de, ...) <br />
<br />
Transclusion improvements: <br />
* [[Ticket:1489|1489]]: Wiki transclusion data in wrong place <br />
* [[Ticket:1112|1112]]: Wiki Transclusion should check for correct [[Wiki Name|WikiName]] and Revision Number <br />
* also read some of the comments @ [[Ticket:1962|1962]]: <br />
<br />
Low priority and questionable enhancements: <br />
* [[Ticket:1799|1799]]: [[WikiDocs]] does not produce valid XHTML <br />
* [[Ticket:1530|1530]]: Show transcluded wiki page in user profile in main site. <br />
<br />
Long term objectives: <br />
* [[Ticket:849|849]]: Provide translations for key documentation <br />
<br />
==WantedPages==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
In its current state, [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]] is unusable. When this effort started, we were above 1100 links. Now below 850. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Further bring it down (possibly ~500/600 links) by fixing bogus and misspelled links. Once it's there, keep it under surveillance. Note that creating documentation for ''valid'' [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]] is not a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]] task: everybody can and should do that. <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
* A lot of links in there are "just bogus" (accidental CamelCase, wrong use of brackets ["ASIN"], etc). All of these should be "fixed" (edited so that they don't link anymore). <br />
* Some links in there are typo-ed, and should be properly edited to point to the correct page. <br />
* Some links are outdated (page has moved), they should be fixed also <br />
* broken sigs: some [[WikiZen]] have troubles spelling their own names :-) ([[User:Ruaok|Ruaok]], among other) - help them for their own good! <br />
* missing redirect: some [[WikiZen]] have a personal page, but use a differently named wiki account. Create the redirection page for them. <br />
* Jazz/Label/* created quite a lot of bogus links, as they often contain records catalogs, with camelcased names. These pages will eventually disappear. Meanwhile, you can inhibit the links <br />
<br />
[[Image:Attention.png]] Just don't "inhibate" anything you see! Specially: <br />
* don't inhibate sigs for wiki editors without personal pages (they might want to create one later)! <br />
* ''Never'' create empty pages. A wanted page is much better than a contentless stub. <br />
* think twice before inhibiting things that looks like [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]] of otherwise valid [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]. <br />
* when in doubt, just leave them alone! <br />
<br />
===Tips===<br />
<br />
* to inhibate a camelcased link, use <code><nowiki>!BogusLink</nowiki></code>. <br />
* to inhibate a bracketted link, use entities instead of brackets: <code><nowiki>&#91;"Bogus Link"&#93;</nowiki></code> <br />
<br />
A short [[WikiZen]] lecture ;-) on [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]: Sometimes a wanted page serves a purpose: It carries the information that there is ''something'' that people refer to, but nobody has taken the time to explain what it is, yet. It also helps to create the intertwingled links for a page that does not exist, yet. Tihs way once the page is created, it is already well intertwingled. In rare cases a wanted page can even give a very realistic notion of a 'blank', or taboo, or untold story. IIRC [[MeatBall:SunirResigns|SunirResigns]] on MeatBall was a very interesting example of this (I don't know if any trace remains of it). <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
* slowly retreating, but still annoying everybody with his obscure sociological ideas: ;-) [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
<br />
==Monitor incoming pages==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
Pages are created by everybody, from [[Wiki Master|WikiMaster]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s to [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. The later usually don't use categories, don't sign their edits, don't intertwingle things, use [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s, don't check spelling, introduce bogus links, or even create completely useless pages. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Monitor all page creation: immediately check the spelling, and at least mark these pages with the relevant [[Wiki Tag|WikiTag]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s: <br />
* [[Needs Editing|NeedsEditing]] <br />
* [[Needs Intertwingling|NeedsIntertwingling]] <br />
* [[Needs Renaming|NeedsRenaming]] <br />
* [[Needs Restructuring|NeedsRestructuring]] <br />
* [[Needs Updating|NeedsUpdating]] <br />
* [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] <br />
* [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] <br />
* [[:Category:Stubs]] <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
A Wiki lives because it's growing. Be kind to [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s and don't discourage vocations by being a [[Wiki Bitch|WikiBitch]]. Help new users and enhance existing content integration and formal quality, but don't pass judgment on content or clumsyness of the editors. Remember you're a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]: above all, do no harm. <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
<br />
==Obtain MoinMoin upgrade==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
We are stuck with an old [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] full of [[Link That Never Ends|deranging bugs]] and badly outdated. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
Collect enough choco to bribe [[User:Ruaok|Ruaok]] so he updates [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] to 1.5.x. but stop spamming him about this. :p The relevant ticket is [[Ticket:2320|2320]]. <br />
<br />
Note that the syntax and behavior of Cards will change with the update to 1.5. <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
All! (note that Europeans have the best choco) <br />
<br />
==DeletedPage==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
We have quite a lot of pages completely useless or irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]]. <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
* They should be removed, and if any, all the links to them replaced by proper links to other resources (eg: [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]]). <br />
* Update and simplify the informal "deletion mechanism" (that we inherited). Update the relevant documentation. <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
* Please don't delete pages that present historical interest. These are handled differently. They need <br />
** A good status notice that puts the page into context. If you cannot provide this, ask some elders. <br />
** A category history <br />
<br />
* Please don't delete personal pages, even empty, even abandoned for years, even orphaned (though you may eventually edit them to at least be of CategoryPerson). They serve as a witness of people who contributed to MusicBrainz in the early days. It is ok that the wiki evolves without them, but it's not ok to erase these people from our history. Maybe a short sentence like "XY was a contributor to this wiki in its prehistoric times (i.e. before migration to [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]])" is better than a completely empty page. <br />
<br />
You may want to take a look at [[Abandoned Pages|AbandonedPages]] and [[Orphaned Pages|OrphanedPages]] (and also to [[Stub]]) to find [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]]. Also, you may want to review pages that don't directly pertain to [[MusicBrainz]] (pages on foreign technologies/random topics for example). Most of them should be superseded by their equivalent (better and maintained) pages at [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]]. <br />
<br />
Tips for [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s not member of the [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]]: <br />
* if you're sure a page should be deleted, add a [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] tag somewhere in it, with some arguments <br />
* if you think, but are not sure a page should be deleted, use [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] instead <br />
* subscribe to this page, so you are notified of changes on it and can answer people <br />
* wait a month. If no one reacts negatively, either change the tag from [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]] to [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] and wait a bit more, or if it is already a [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]], bug somebody in the [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]] so that he deletes the page effectively <br />
<br />
Tips for members of [[Page Deletor Group|PageDeletorGroup]]: <br />
* do a full text search on the wiki to list all links pointing to the [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]]: something like <code><nowiki>[[FullSearch(linkto:DumbPage)]]</nowiki></code> <br />
* replace all links by their proper replacement: if there is no legit replacement, then this page probably shouldn't be deleted! <br />
* [[Dont Delete Wiki Docs Pages|DontDeleteWikiDocsPages]]! You '''must not''' do it, it would break [[WikiDocs]]. Luckily you can't, since [[WikiDocs Page|WikiDocsPage]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s are delete protected. If you are in doubt check if the page is in the [[Wiki Docs Transclusion Table|WikiDocsTransclusionTable]]. To deal with a [[WikiDocs]] page listed in [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] you'll have extra work to do (and you'll need a [[Transclusion Editor|TransclusionEditor]] and a member of the [[Admin Group|AdminGroup]]) <br />
* triple check that you're doing the right thing <br />
* delete the page <br />
<br />
Right now, there are a bunch of pages in [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]]. They wait for review from [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] and others, and they may be deleted at the end of April 2007. Please also monitor [[Candidate For Deletion|CandidateForDeletion]]. <br />
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[[Image:Attention.png]] Important note: some/most/all of these pages are '''not ready''' to be deleted. Some of them still have a lot of links that point to them, some of them are even [[WikiDocs]] pages! They are there because we think they should be deleted - in a month, before doing so, and if no-one vetoes on their deletion, a preliminary work will have to be done prior to their actual deletion. <br />
<br />
You do not expect me to give you an ok for each and every page, do you? MB has enough bureaucracy already. I have commented on some, where I disagree. I believe there are some more that could be left if you look at them from a different, gentler angle. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">hé :-) I believe this is why [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] is a good process. This leave time to take a second (or third) (gentler) look at things and change mind. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 19:35, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
</ul><br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] <br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
* [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] <br />
<br />
==Pages that should point to wikipedia instead==<br />
<br />
See [[Deleted Page|DeletedPage]] above. Maybe maintain a list of these here. <br />
<br />
==Jazz==<br />
<br />
===Problem===<br />
<br />
This is my mess. There are several problems with the Jazz/Label/* pages which include: <br />
* bogus camel links (see [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]) <br />
* pages appear orphaned <br />
<br />
===Objective===<br />
<br />
* Migrate all relevant data into [[MusicBrainz]] (now that we have labels!). <br />
<br />
===Recommendations===<br />
<br />
Just ignore these pages whenever they appear (but in [[Wanted Pages|WantedPages]]) <br />
<br />
==WikiNewbies==<br />
<br />
Create a page for [[Wiki Newbie|WikiNewbie]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s with good practice guidelines on this wiki. This may be [[Good Wiki Style|GoodWikiStyle]], but it needs enhancement. <br />
<br />
With a (short) checklist of things to verify (intertwingling, categories, spelling, etc). <br />
<br />
==WikiCategories==<br />
<br />
'''Objective:''' Establish [[Wiki Categories|WikiCategories]] to be used everywhere in the wiki <br />
<br />
Please see and comment [[Talk:Wiki Categories|WikiCategoriesDiscussion]] <br />
<br />
===WikiWardens on this===<br />
<br />
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] <br />
<br />
==Historical pages==<br />
<br />
<small>'''Depends on [[Wiki Categories|WikiCategories]]'''</small> <br />
<br />
Create an entry point like [[History Of MusicBrainz|HistoryOfMusicBrainz]] for historical pages. Create special categories for historical proposal, historical guidelines, ... <br />
<br />
'''Note:''' there's also a page with a similar name: [[MusicBrainz History|MusicBrainzHistory]] that we should maybe rename (but this is a WikiDocsPage) <br />
<br />
==Promote transclusion==<br />
<br />
I'm not sure [[WikiDocs]] and transclusion are directly related to WikiWardening: a [[Transclusion Editor|TransclusionEditor]] sure need to be a [[Wiki Warden|WikiWarden]] of his wikidocs pages, but a lot of wikipages don't need to be [[WikiDocs]]. Might be related to restructurating/documenting distinction. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 16:52, 05 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Sure. And we definitely need to separate documentation efforts, and restructuration/wardening. Though, I think both belong here, because of a simple fact: we don't have arms enough to afford the separation... For now, all manpower is here I guess :-) -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 19:33, 05 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">For reference, previous wiki improvement attempt has been split in [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] and [[Restructuring The Documentation|RestructuringTheDocumentation]]. -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 00:07, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
</ul><br />
</ul><br />
<br />
Split documentation into responsibilities zones. <br />
* [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]: <br />
** [[MBWiki:CategoryAnnotation|CategoryAnnotation]]: clean, transcluded <br />
** [[MBWiki:CategoryLabel|CategoryLabel]]: some work to do, transclusion ASAP <br />
<br />
Raw ideas: <br />
* suggestion for a new transclusion interface on [[Ticket:1962|1962]] <br />
* propose the use of "transclusion zones" and fine grained transclusion rights management <br />
<br />
==Open Questions==<br />
<br />
* Category nesting (murdos). <br />
* think of a masterplan about categories. <br />
* *really* investigate transclusion behavior and hacks to be able to easily do full searches on transcluded documentation rather than on wiki content <br />
<br />
==Raw ideas and various things todo==<br />
<br />
* Promote the use of cards (don't forget that Cards on navigation don't really behave nicely) <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">But don't overuse them ;-) <br />
</ul><br />
* Build templates for cards <br />
* niceify the documentation! Random ideas: <br />
** use some specific style to make nav and intertwingling cards look a bit different (dirty hack: call the card from within a styled table) <br />
** use "smileys" to underline semantic value of things <br />
** use different icons in the head of pages, that "reflects" the part of the documentation we are in (eg: categories or "topic"). <br />
<br />
* investigate Cards/Intertwingling ideas (think [[Wikipedia|WikiPedia]] "portals") <br />
* differentiate restructuring tasks (defining categories, renaming, ...) and improving content tasks (updating docs, ...) <br />
* find some documentation about FullSearch macro (where the heck is it located?) <br />
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[MoinMoin:HelpOnSearching|HelpOnSearching]], or you want more? If think we should also document the different behavior between FullSearch(linkto:Page) and FullSearch(Page): the first works on generated content (after macro expanding), although the second seems to work on text source. Both have inconvenience... :| -- [[User:murdos|murdos]] 00:07, 06 April 2007 (UTC) <br />
</ul><br />
* move my ass to have Label doc in a decent state <br />
* discuss if we want to addto ".+Future" pages, or if we want a new category. <br />
* investigate the behavior of Cards with arguments, and how to use that for status card differentiation depending on the caller page in transcluded pages. <br />
* discuss if the current structure used on annotation is a good thing (or not) that we could reuse as a "template" for a number of other things (Artist, Release...): <br />
** all pages have the category of the topic (eg: [[MBWiki:CategoryAnnotation|CategoryAnnotation]]) <br />
** Navigation and intertwingling cards. <br />
** Pages declined following: <br />
*** Mainpage (eg: Annotation) <br />
*** FAQ (eg: AnnotationFAQ, plus category FAQ) <br />
*** Howto (eg: [[How Annotations Work|HowAnnotationsWork]], plus category Howto) <br />
*** History (eg: [[Annotation History|AnnotationHistory]], plus category History) <br />
*** Discussion (eg: [[Talk:Annotation|AnnotationDiscussion]], plus category Discussion) <br />
*** Future (eg: [[Annotation Future|AnnotationFuture]], actually plus category Discussion, maybe Development or something else) <br />
*** Edits doc <br />
*** [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]] documentation (not for Annotation obviously) <br />
*** Additional documentation specific to the topic <br />
<br />
* Add an historical notice, rename and/or reuse/update pages of previous wiki restructuring attempt: [[Big Mess|BigMess]], [[Status Of This Wiki|StatusOfThisWiki]], [[Restructuring The Documentation|RestructuringTheDocumentation]], [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] <br />
* Use [[WikiDocs]] related pages for [[WikiDocs]] work <br />
* Think about translating documentation. This is a long term objective. Here's a partial copy of a private mail by [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]], with some interesting thoughts: <br />
<br />
<pre> "I believe this does not make sense before MB has language sub-communities. MB is still too small for that. I would not start to translate documentation. This is an enormous, tedious, and never-ending task, and in the worst case nobody will use your work. So, if you *want* to start this, I'd suggest you build up a French<br />
sub-community first. With some nice welcome-pages and stuff. *Then* if there are a few people around (not under six active and over a dozen casual contributors, a few active French forum threads, and a feeling of "we") the french pages will probably start to grow all by their own. That is the moment to recognise. Then you push a lot of energy and enthusiasm into it. [...] French and German are best candidates for this, although French are less used to do everything in English (which is an advantage here)."<br />
</pre><br />
* Update [[WikiDocs]] related pages (attachments, includes, cards, etc. Also see [[Moin Moin|MoinMoin]] 1.5 migration) ([[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]]'s mess) <br />
<br />
==Things here for some reason :-)==<br />
<br />
===Orphaned redirects (non personal pages)===<br />
<br />
Some of them may be used by tagger clients: <br />
* CapitalizationStandardFrisian <br />
* DanishCapitalisationStandard <br />
* ArtistNameStyle <br />
* ChoralWorksNamesTranslations <br />
* !SpecialUUIDs <br />
* AR <br />
<br />
===Links to pages that shouldn't appear in OrphanedPages...===<br />
<br />
See [[Wiki Wardening/Wrongly Orphaned Pages|WikiWardening/WronglyOrphanedPages]] <br />
<br />
[[Category:Candidate for Deletion]] [[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Development]] [[Category:Discussion]] [[Category:To Do List]] [[Category:Wiki]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=how_Labels_Work&diff=28398how Labels Work2009-03-19T19:59:44Z<p>Adan Aileron: stub -> {{stub}}</p>
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<div>{{LabelHeader}} <br />
<br />
[[Image:Attention.png]] This is a [[Stub]]. Needs more details and possibly screenshots (see [[How Annotations Work|HowAnnotationsWork]]), and some work on creating the [[Edit Type|EditType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s pages. <br />
<br />
=How "labels" work in MusicBrainz?=<br />
<br />
Any [[MusicBrainz]] user can edit labels in several ways: <br />
* [[Add Label Edit|AddLabelEdit]] (autoedit) <br />
* [[Edit Label Name Edit|EditLabelNameEdit]] <br />
* [[Edit Label Sortname Edit|EditLabelSortnameEdit]] <br />
* [[Add Label Annotation Edit|AddLabelAnnotationEdit]] <br />
* [[Add Label Alias Edit|AddLabelAliasEdit]] <br />
* [[Edit Label Alias Edit|EditLabelAliasEdit]] <br />
* [[Remove Label Alias Edit|RemoveLabelAliasEdit]] <br />
* [[Merge Labels Edit|MergeLabelsEdit]] <br />
<br />
For general information about these edits (and other types of edit), see [[Edit Type|EditType]]. <br />
<br />
{{LabelFooter}} <br />
<br />
{{Stub}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:Label]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=History:Artist_Future&diff=28397History:Artist Future2009-03-19T19:59:29Z<p>Adan Aileron: stub -> {{stub}}</p>
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<div>Discussion/Future: <br />
* ArtistFuture <br />
** [[Linking Different Artist Names|LinkingDifferentArtistNames]] <br />
** [[Talk:Linking Different Artist Names|LinkingDifferentArtistNamesDiscussion]] <br />
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Editor&diff=28394Editor2009-03-19T19:58:27Z<p>Adan Aileron: </p>
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Terminology]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Moderator_Language/English&diff=28252Moderator Language/English2009-03-18T16:36:00Z<p>Adan Aileron: Redirecting to Category:English Speakers</p>
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[[Category:Wiki]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Category:Candidate_for_Deletion&diff=28103Category:Candidate for Deletion2009-03-18T13:16:28Z<p>Adan Aileron: </p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[:Category:Croatian Speakers]]</div>Adan Aileronhttps://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Moderator_Language/Chinese/Native&diff=28037Moderator Language/Chinese/Native2009-03-18T12:02:26Z<p>Adan Aileron: fixed double redirect</p>
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