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The idea is to split up the attribute '''vocal''' into '''vocal role''' and '''vocal range/tone''', so those attributes could then be set separately.
The idea is to split up the attribute '''vocal''' into '''vocal role''' and '''vocal range/tone''', so those attributes could then be set separately.

[[Performance Relationship Class|PerformanceRelationshipClass]]
* vocal role (This attribute describes a type of vocal performance.)
* vocal role (This attribute describes a type of vocal performance.)
** Lead (Lead or solo vocal)
** Lead (Lead or solo vocal)
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*** other --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: There will always be exceptions. :)
*** other --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: There will always be exceptions. :)
*** add please.
*** add please.

related is also
* Speaker (as per [[Speaker Relationship Type|SpeakerRelationshipType]])
* narrator (as per [[Narrator Relationship Type|NarratorRelationshipType]])
* reader (as per [[Reader Relationship Type|ReaderRelationshipType]])


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==Discussion==
==Discussion==

mudcrow added these to my page,i'm moving them here, I dunno what to do with them.
* Vocalese --[[User:mudcrow|mudcrow]]: closely related to scat, vocalese is similar but uses lyrics. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocalese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocalese]
* Voice --[[User:mudcrow|mudcrow]]: common credit on spoken word tracks, and tracks that contain spoken word, although the spoken word is usually a background, rather than the foreground. Also a common credit for shouting, screaming etc. Such tracks are specifically credited as voice instead of the usual vocals.
* Spoken Word --[[User:mudcrow|mudcrow]]: an artistic performance where lyrics, poetry or stories is spoken (or shouted), often with a musical background. Ranting is a similar form, where poetry/lyrics are spoken/shouted at a high speed. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoken_word http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoken_word]
* Toasting --[[User:mudcrow|mudcrow]]: talking or chanting over a rhythm or a beat. An African tradition that has moved in modern times into reggae and dub music. Not to be confused with rap. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toasting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toasting]
* Human Beatbox --[[User:mudcrow|mudcrow]]: mostly used in rap music, using the human voice to create an imitation of purcussion instruments, scratches and a variety of other instruments. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_beatbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_beatbox]


===Terminology===
===Terminology===

Revision as of 10:46, 12 April 2007

This page discusses a new tree for the VocalRelationshipAttribute. It's a spin-off from PerformanceRestructuringProposal to be able to discuss this easier; for more info about the circumstances, look there. This process is being tracked through 1140.

Please note that there is a proposal to add a separate sub-type SpeakerRelationshipType to the vocal PerformerRelationshipType and NarratorRelationshipType, ReaderRelationshipType as subtypes to SpeakerRelationshipType, so speech should probably not be included in this tree.

The Tree

The idea is to split up the attribute vocal into vocal role and vocal range/tone, so those attributes could then be set separately.

PerformanceRelationshipClass

  • vocal role (This attribute describes a type of vocal performance.)
    • Lead (Lead or solo vocal)
    • Background (new)
      • Choir (Choir)
      • Chorus (Chorus)
      • Backing (previously Background vocal)
      • Harmony (Harmony) --FrederikSOlesen: Sometimes vocals are listed as "harmony vocals", and I'm unsure what of the above background vocal categories it would belong to, if any.
  • vocal tone (This attribute describes a style/tone/range of vocal performance.)
    • classical (unselectable) *
      • Alto (Alto)
      • Bass-Baritone (Bass-Baritone)
      • Contralto (Contralto)
      • Baritone (Baritone)
      • Bass (Bass)
      • Contra-tenor (Contra-tenor)
      • Mezzo-soprano (Mezzo-soprano)
      • Soprano (Soprano)
      • Tenor (Tenor)
      • Recitative (Recitative)
    • modern (unselectable) *
      • rap
        • Sprechgesang
      • growl
      • scat
      • yodel
      • lilt(ing) --FrederikSOlesen: Traditional (Irish) way of 'singing' tunes
      • chant
      • whistle
      • other --FrederikSOlesen: There will always be exceptions. :)
      • add please.

related is also


* It's currently not possible to have unselectable relationship attributes. 2113 proposes to make this possible. 

Discussion

mudcrow added these to my page,i'm moving them here, I dunno what to do with them.

  • Vocalese --mudcrow: closely related to scat, vocalese is similar but uses lyrics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocalese
  • Voice --mudcrow: common credit on spoken word tracks, and tracks that contain spoken word, although the spoken word is usually a background, rather than the foreground. Also a common credit for shouting, screaming etc. Such tracks are specifically credited as voice instead of the usual vocals.
  • Spoken Word --mudcrow: an artistic performance where lyrics, poetry or stories is spoken (or shouted), often with a musical background. Ranting is a similar form, where poetry/lyrics are spoken/shouted at a high speed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoken_word
  • Toasting --mudcrow: talking or chanting over a rhythm or a beat. An African tradition that has moved in modern times into reggae and dub music. Not to be confused with rap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toasting
  • Human Beatbox --mudcrow: mostly used in rap music, using the human voice to create an imitation of purcussion instruments, scratches and a variety of other instruments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_beatbox

Terminology

vocal tone

Rapping, growling, lilting, etc. isn't a 'tone' but a specific (or not so specific) style of singing. A word different from "tone" would be appreciated. --FrederikSOlesen

modern

Under "vocal tone", I'd like to find another wording than "modern" for non-classical since I believe yodeling, lilting, and related styles to be as old (or older) than the classical divisions. Perhaps, related to the above comment, renaming "classical" to "tone (range)" and "modern" to "singing style" (or something better, but I'm somewhat tired right now). --FrederikSOlesen

vocal role

Vocal role is also not the best choice as it coincides with the proposal of a free-text attribute for the role someone represents in a performance (like "SomeGuy performed tenor vocal as The Beast" - tenor is the "vocal role" as described here, "The Beast" would be a free-text attribute for the character that is represented). Perhaps "character" would actually be a better term for the free-text attribute, then this could stay. -- Shepard 12:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)