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This page discusses a new tree for the [[Vocal Relationship Attribute|VocalRelationshipAttribute]]. It's a spin-off from [[Performance Restructuring Proposal|PerformanceRestructuringProposal]] to be able to discuss this easier; for more info about the circumstances, look there. This process is being tracked through [[Ticket:1140|1140]].
This page discusses a new tree for the [[Vocal Relationship Attribute|VocalRelationshipAttribute]]. This proposal began over in the [[Performance Restructuring Proposal]].


==The current vocal tree==
Please note that there is a proposal to add a separate sub-type [[Speaker Relationship Type|SpeakerRelationshipType]] to the vocal [[Performer Relationship Type|PerformerRelationshipType]] and [[Narrator Relationship Type|NarratorRelationshipType]], [[Reader Relationship Type|ReaderRelationshipType]] as subtypes to [[Speaker Relationship Type|SpeakerRelationshipType]], so speech should probably not be included in this tree.
: ''Generic vocal types:''
::* Lead
::* Background
::* Choir
: ''Specific vocal types:''
::* Alto
::* Bass-Baritone
::* Contralto
::* Baritone
::* Bass
::* Countertenor
::* Mezzo-soprano
::* Soprano
::* Tenor


==The Tree==
==The proposed vocal tree==
* ''Generic vocal types'' (unselectable)
::* Lead
::::* Female
::::* Male
::* Background
::::* Female
::::* Male
::* Choir
::::* Barbershop quartet
::::* Children's choir
::::* Female choir
::::* Male choir (aka: cathedral choir)
::::* Men's choir
::::* Mixed choir
* ''Specific vocal types'' (unselectable)
::* Soprano
::::* Coloratura soprano
::::::* Light coloratura soprano
::::::* Lyric coloratura soprano
::::::* Dramatic coloratura soprano
::::* Soubrette (aka: soprano lirico-leggiero)
::::* Soprano leggiero
::::* Lyric soprano
::::::* Light lyric soprano
::::::* Full lyric soprano
::::* Spinto soprano (aka: soprano lirico-spinto, jugendlich-dramatisch)
::::* Dramatic soprano
::::* Wagnerian soprano
::::* Sopranista (aka: male soprano)
::::* Soprano I
::::* Soprano II
::* Castrato
::* Sopranist
::* Dugazon
::* Falcon
::* Mezzo-soprano
:::* Coloratura mezzo-soprano
:::* Lyric-colorata alto
:::* Dramatic mezzo-soprano
::* Falsetto
::::* Male soprano
::::* Male alto
::* Contralto
::::* Coloratura contralto
::::* Lyric contralto
::::* Dramatic contralto
::* Contratenor
::::* Countertenor (aka: contratenor altus, haute-contre)
::::* Contratenor bassus
::* Alto
::::* Alto I
::::* Alto II
::* Tenor
::::* Lirico-leggero tenor
::::* Lyric tenor
::::* Spinto tenor
::::* Dramatic tenor (aka: tenore lirico-spinto)
::::* Heldentenor
::::* Tenor buffo (aka: spieltenor)
::::* Tenor I
::::* Tenor II
::::* Baritenor
::* Baritone
::::* Baryton-Martin (aka: Bariton)
::::* Lyric baritone
::::* Kavalierbariton
::::* Verdi baritone
::::* Dramatic baritone
::::* Lyric Low Baritone (aka: lyric bass-baritone)
::::* Dramatic Bass-baritone (aka: low Baritone)
::::* Baryton-noble
::* Bass
::::* Basso cantante (aka: lyric high bass, lyric bass-baritone)
::::* Dramatic high bass (aka: dramatic bass-baritone, Hoher bass)
::::* Jugendlicher bass
::::* Basso buffo (aka: bel canto, lyric buffo)
::::* Schwerer spielbass (aka: dramatic buffo)
::::* Lyric basso profondo
::::* Dramatic basso profondo
* Other
::* Beatbox
::* Chant
::* Scat
::* Speech / Spoken Word
::* Sprechgesang
::* Sprechstimme
::* Synthesized
::* Throat singing
::* Whistling
::* Yodel
::* Gang (used for some punk releases) [[User:Jacobbrett|jacobbrett]] 19:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


==Left for some other proposal(s)==
The idea is to split up the attribute '''vocal''' into '''vocal role''' and '''vocal range/tone''', so those attributes could then be set separately.
* (Other)
* vocal role (This attribute describes a type of vocal performance.)
::* Growl
** Lead (Lead or solo vocal)
::* Lilting
** Background (new)
::* Ranting
*** Choir (Choir)
::* Rap
*** Chorus (Chorus)
::** Melodic rap
*** Backing (previously Background vocal)
::* Scream
*** Harmony (Harmony) --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: Sometimes vocals are listed as "harmony vocals", and I'm unsure what of the above background vocal categories it would belong to, if any.
::* Toasting

::* Vocalise
** Other --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: There will always be exceptions. :)
::* Otakebi (a type of Japanese battle cry)

* vocal tone (This attribute describes a style/tone/range of vocal performance.)
** classical (unselectable) *
*** Alto (Alto)
*** Bass-Baritone (Bass-Baritone)
*** Contralto (Contralto)
*** Baritone (Baritone)
*** Bass (Bass)
*** Contra-tenor (Contra-tenor)
*** Mezzo-soprano (Mezzo-soprano)
*** Soprano (Soprano)
*** Tenor (Tenor)
*** Recitative (Recitative)

** modern (unselectable) *
*** rap
**** Sprechgesang

*** growl
*** scat
*** yodel
*** lilt(ing) --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: Traditional (Irish) way of 'singing' tunes
*** other --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]: There will always be exceptions. :)
*** add please.


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There are 3 separate [[Proposals|proposals]] to add separate relationship types to cover basic speech and its subtypes; speech is here, but it's left to subtypes of that AR to detail various types of speech.

* [[Speaker Relationship Type]] and the sub-relationship types:
* It's currently not possible to have unselectable relationship attributes. [[Ticket:2113|2113]] proposes to make this possible.
::* [[Narrator Relationship Type]]

::* [[Reader Relationship Type]]
==Discussion==

Discuss this here please.

===Terminology===

===vocal tone===

Rapping, growling, lilting, etc. isn't a 'tone' but a specific (or not so specific) style of singing. A word different from "tone" would be appreciated. --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]

=====modern=====

Under "vocal tone", I'd like to find another wording than "modern" for non-classical since I believe yodeling, lilting, and related styles to be as old (or older) than the classical divisions. Perhaps, related to the above comment, renaming "classical" to "tone (range)" and "modern" to "singing style" (or something better, but I'm somewhat tired right now). --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]

[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Proposal]] [[Category:Discussion]]

Latest revision as of 22:29, 28 August 2016


Status: This page describes an active advanced relationship proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-4
Champion: BrianFreud
Current status: In development
Initial Discussion


Trac ticket # 1140

This page discusses a new tree for the VocalRelationshipAttribute. This proposal began over in the Performance Restructuring Proposal.

The current vocal tree

Generic vocal types:
  • Lead
  • Background
  • Choir
Specific vocal types:
  • Alto
  • Bass-Baritone
  • Contralto
  • Baritone
  • Bass
  • Countertenor
  • Mezzo-soprano
  • Soprano
  • Tenor

The proposed vocal tree

  • Generic vocal types (unselectable)
  • Lead
  • Female
  • Male
  • Background
  • Female
  • Male
  • Choir
  • Barbershop quartet
  • Children's choir
  • Female choir
  • Male choir (aka: cathedral choir)
  • Men's choir
  • Mixed choir
  • Specific vocal types (unselectable)
  • Soprano
  • Coloratura soprano
  • Light coloratura soprano
  • Lyric coloratura soprano
  • Dramatic coloratura soprano
  • Soubrette (aka: soprano lirico-leggiero)
  • Soprano leggiero
  • Lyric soprano
  • Light lyric soprano
  • Full lyric soprano
  • Spinto soprano (aka: soprano lirico-spinto, jugendlich-dramatisch)
  • Dramatic soprano
  • Wagnerian soprano
  • Sopranista (aka: male soprano)
  • Soprano I
  • Soprano II
  • Castrato
  • Sopranist
  • Dugazon
  • Falcon
  • Mezzo-soprano
  • Coloratura mezzo-soprano
  • Lyric-colorata alto
  • Dramatic mezzo-soprano
  • Falsetto
  • Male soprano
  • Male alto
  • Contralto
  • Coloratura contralto
  • Lyric contralto
  • Dramatic contralto
  • Contratenor
  • Countertenor (aka: contratenor altus, haute-contre)
  • Contratenor bassus
  • Alto
  • Alto I
  • Alto II
  • Tenor
  • Lirico-leggero tenor
  • Lyric tenor
  • Spinto tenor
  • Dramatic tenor (aka: tenore lirico-spinto)
  • Heldentenor
  • Tenor buffo (aka: spieltenor)
  • Tenor I
  • Tenor II
  • Baritenor
  • Baritone
  • Baryton-Martin (aka: Bariton)
  • Lyric baritone
  • Kavalierbariton
  • Verdi baritone
  • Dramatic baritone
  • Lyric Low Baritone (aka: lyric bass-baritone)
  • Dramatic Bass-baritone (aka: low Baritone)
  • Baryton-noble
  • Bass
  • Basso cantante (aka: lyric high bass, lyric bass-baritone)
  • Dramatic high bass (aka: dramatic bass-baritone, Hoher bass)
  • Jugendlicher bass
  • Basso buffo (aka: bel canto, lyric buffo)
  • Schwerer spielbass (aka: dramatic buffo)
  • Lyric basso profondo
  • Dramatic basso profondo
  • Other
  • Beatbox
  • Chant
  • Scat
  • Speech / Spoken Word
  • Sprechgesang
  • Sprechstimme
  • Synthesized
  • Throat singing
  • Whistling
  • Yodel
  • Gang (used for some punk releases) jacobbrett 19:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Left for some other proposal(s)

  • (Other)
  • Growl
  • Lilting
  • Ranting
  • Rap
    • Melodic rap
  • Scream
  • Toasting
  • Vocalise
  • Otakebi (a type of Japanese battle cry)

There are 3 separate proposals to add separate relationship types to cover basic speech and its subtypes; speech is here, but it's left to subtypes of that AR to detail various types of speech.

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