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[[Proposal:CSGv2|The Classical Style Guidelines:]]
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:: <h1>Track/Recording Artist</h1>
  
 
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=The Classical Style Guidelines: CSG for Recordings: Recording Artist=
 
 
'''''Style for determining Release Artists on *classical* Releases'''''
 
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[Image:Alert.png]] '' '''This is work in progress and not official.''' [[Image:Attention.png]] ''This [[Style Guideline|StyleGuideline]] applies to [[Classical Style Guide| classical music]] only. For popular music see the [[Release Artist Style|ReleaseArtistStyle]].''
 
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The [[Classical Style Guide|ClassicalStyleGuide]] states that the [[Release Artist|ReleaseArtist]] of a classical Release should always be either the composer or (in releases with multiple composers) [[Various Artists|VariousArtists]], '''never''' the performer.  However, we make the following exceptions:
 
* [[User:Symphonick/SandboxClassicalReleaseArtistStyle#recitals|Mixed recitals by a performer or group]]
 
* [[User:Symphonick/SandboxClassicalReleaseArtistStyle#covers|Classical "Covers"]]
 
 
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==Mixed recitals by a performer or group==
 
  
In cases where a release features a single performer or group and contains works from multiple composers, that performer or group may be designated the [[Release Artist|ReleaseArtist]], with each [[Track Artist|TrackArtist]] assigned to the appropriate composer.
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The artist should be the composer(s) of the performed work, with one exception, when a "classical" track is performed by an artist which would not be considered to be "classical":
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Examples: [http://musicbrainz.org/release/8e18c6f3-cdec-4f60-a2bc-e5105c9edbf9.html Favorite Encores (feat. piano: Vladimir Horowitz)] [http://musicbrainz.org/release/d2a0f1ed-87da-4838-9d4c-5c5bfcf99ef0.html Black Angels (Kronos Quartet)] [http://musicbrainz.org/release/f2a2a7a1-e8a9-4010-b238-d3d2382cec51.html Passion of Callas (disc 1)] However, on a release like [http://musicbrainz.org/album/0736d1a9-d49d-49c5-bd9b-9ccbe9fc296e.html 3 Masses of the 20th Century (Mikaeli Kammarkör, Anders Eby)] there is no clear choice for primary performer. It must remain under [[Various Artists|VariousArtists]].
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While some cases are clear – the New York Philharmonic would be considered a "classical" performer, while Metallica would be considered "non-classical" – it is understood that many cases will be able to be interpreted either way. Such cases should be decided by the voters, or if need be, the style council.
  
'''Important notes:'''
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The principal consideration is whether the track is played in a manner which would be considered to be "classical": Classical music, when performed "classically", is performed in a manner which may involve interpretations of tempo and intensity, but which generally does not invite improvisation.
# Do not create new Artists for performer collaborations (such as "Herbert von Karajan & The Berlin Philharmonic.")
 
# Also, do not use this style for conductors who are also composers (such as Leonard Bernstein or Pierre Boulez.)
 
# This recital style does not apply to releases with works by only one composer (such as [http://musicbrainz.org/release/a8e3a35f-6046-4b23-a98e-b6fd01244ebf.html Sole e Amore (Kiri Te Kanawa)]), however much they might emphasize the performer.  
 
  
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If the artist is essentially performing the work as written, then the performance (and thus, the artist) is likely "classical"; the track/recording artist would be the composer.  However, if the artist is performing the work only in a 'broad' sense (e.g. Nirvana playing a live jam including parts of the melody from La Boheme) then the artist is not performing the work "classically", and thus the track/recording artist would be the performer.
==Classical "Covers"==
 
  
In releases where classical works are arranged, remixed, or otherwise substantially modified by the primary performer, that performer should be designated as [[Release Artist|ReleaseArtist]].  The composer(s) should be attributed only by [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]] of the [[Composer Relationship Type|ComposerRelationshipType]] either to the whole album (if there is only one composer), or the individual tracks (if there are several composers). ''here we say arrangements is an exeption, but further down it's not?''
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The secondary consideration is consistency within the listing for a performer.  The same performer may sometimes stick to the music as written (a "classical" artist), while at other times not do so (a "non-classical" artist). it is strongly preferred that the entirety of performances by the same artist be listed either one way or the other, rather than have that performer's tracks and recordings found sometimes under the composer, other times under the performer.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Examples: [http://musicbrainz.org/album/f264b968-4e65-4b6c-8cbb-340f13cc77c0.html Béla Fleck: Perpetual Motion] [http://musicbrainz.org/release/4bf341d5-f1f9-421a-ba45-d927965ca209.html Jacques Loussier: Play Bach No. 1] [http://test.musicbrainz.org/release/d744cca0-6f43-4855-a3dd-83c512285493.html William Orbit: Pieces in a Modern Style]
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When dealing with works that are NOT covers, the composer is designated as artist, as usual:  
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When using the composer as the artist, the correct composer(s) to use may not be obvious:
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">J.S. Bach's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/638b0628-ec96-4654-9eb9-b79588d1c886.html Unaccompanied Cello Suites Performed on Double Bass (Edgar Meyer)]. Here Bach is credited as the Artist and Edgar Meyer's transcriptions are indicated with an [[Arranger Relationship Type|ArrangerRelationshipType]].  
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* A work was left unfinished by the original composer, then completed by another composer.
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*: Use both composers.
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* A work by one composer consists of variations on a work by a different composer.
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*: Use the composer of the variations.
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* A work was composed by one composer, then arranged, orchestrated, and/or instrumentated by a different artist.
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*: Use the composer, not the arranger, orchestrator, or instrumentator.
  
Also, when one composer has arranged a work by another, one would use the same plan:
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If it is unclear as to whether a work should be considered an arrangement or a variation, or if the composer is unclear for other reasons, then the style list should be consulted for guidance.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[http://musicbrainz.org/release/7c01c281-4c46-4113-9d98-58d904637372.html Franz Schubert's German Dances, D. 820 as arranged by Anton Webern] should be entered with Schubert as the [[Track Artist|TrackArtist]], and connected to Webern via the [[Arranger Relationship Type|ArrangerRelationshipType]]. [http://test.musicbrainz.org/release/911dbaa2-83c7-4925-ac82-4e4a88fc1a83.html Benjamin Britten's arrangement of the tune "Tom Bowling"] should be entered with [trad.] as the [[Track Artist|TrackArtist]] and connected to Britten via the [[Arranger Relationship Type|ArrangerRelationshipType]]. [http://musicbrainz.org/album/f0c80d6c-edb0-40d7-87c3-0cc6c9ffeed7.html Beethoven Symphonies 5, 6 in Piano Transcription by Franz Liszt (feat. piano: Glenn Gould)]
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Latest revision as of 18:58, 28 August 2016


Status: This page describes an active style guideline proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-82
Champion: BrianFreud
Current status: Awaiting NGS implementation for final revision and passage.

RFC

Trac ticket # 4426

The Classical Style Guidelines:

CSG for Tracks and Recordings:

Track/Recording Artist


Official Documentation > Style Guidelines > The Classical Style Guidelines
Artist
Title: Work and Opus | Movement | Ornamentation | Special Cases


The artist should be the composer(s) of the performed work, with one exception, when a "classical" track is performed by an artist which would not be considered to be "classical":

While some cases are clear – the New York Philharmonic would be considered a "classical" performer, while Metallica would be considered "non-classical" – it is understood that many cases will be able to be interpreted either way. Such cases should be decided by the voters, or if need be, the style council.

The principal consideration is whether the track is played in a manner which would be considered to be "classical": Classical music, when performed "classically", is performed in a manner which may involve interpretations of tempo and intensity, but which generally does not invite improvisation.

If the artist is essentially performing the work as written, then the performance (and thus, the artist) is likely "classical"; the track/recording artist would be the composer. However, if the artist is performing the work only in a 'broad' sense (e.g. Nirvana playing a live jam including parts of the melody from La Boheme) then the artist is not performing the work "classically", and thus the track/recording artist would be the performer.

The secondary consideration is consistency within the listing for a performer. The same performer may sometimes stick to the music as written (a "classical" artist), while at other times not do so (a "non-classical" artist). it is strongly preferred that the entirety of performances by the same artist be listed either one way or the other, rather than have that performer's tracks and recordings found sometimes under the composer, other times under the performer.

When using the composer as the artist, the correct composer(s) to use may not be obvious:

  • A work was left unfinished by the original composer, then completed by another composer.
    Use both composers.
  • A work by one composer consists of variations on a work by a different composer.
    Use the composer of the variations.
  • A work was composed by one composer, then arranged, orchestrated, and/or instrumentated by a different artist.
    Use the composer, not the arranger, orchestrator, or instrumentator.

If it is unclear as to whether a work should be considered an arrangement or a variation, or if the composer is unclear for other reasons, then the style list should be consulted for guidance.