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** with-attribute version: "Song Name (attribute type)"
** with-attribute version: "Song Name (attribute type)"
*** attributes: alternate / instrumental guitar piano vocal chorus acoustic / rough heavy slow / album EP single radio / $language / $year
*** attributes: alternate / instrumental guitar piano vocal chorus acoustic / rough heavy slow / album EP single radio / $language / $year
*** types: version mix remix dub take cut reprise
*** types: version mix remix edit dub take cut reprise


** named version: "Song Name (Fire in the Sky version)" / "Song Name (Butterfly remix)"
** named version: "Song Name (Fire in the Sky version)" / "Song Name (Butterfly remix)"

Revision as of 20:36, 23 April 2006

Zout suggested that we clarify what ExtraTitleInformation is and the different bits of ExtraTitleInformationStyle. I created this as a project page. Once clarification has been reached the pages could be updated. --DonRedman

What is Extra Title Informatoin

I suggest that we first collect everything that can be considered ExtraTitleInformation. Then in a second step we can decide which one to include in the TrackTitle and which not.

  • versions:
    • simple: "Song Name (remix)" / "Song Name (dub)" / "Song Name (take 2)"
    • just attribute: "Song Name (alternate)" / "Song Name (acoustic)" / "Song Name (classical)"
    • with-attribute version: "Song Name (attribute type)"
      • attributes: alternate / instrumental guitar piano vocal chorus acoustic / rough heavy slow / album EP single radio / $language / $year
      • types: version mix remix edit dub take cut reprise
    • named version: "Song Name (Fire in the Sky version)" / "Song Name (Butterfly remix)"
    • with-author mix: "Song Name (DJ DeeJay mix)" / "Song Name (Dee Jayer's remix)" / "Song Name (remix by Dee Jay)"
    • complex: "Song Name (Dee Jayer's 1992 'Ultrabot' remix at MixFest)" – any subset of remixer's name, moment, place, title and type of remix
    • other: "prerelease|demo|initial [version|mix]"
    • vinyl single: "A-side" "B-side" "A-side remix '95"
    • special: "OC ReMix" has special styling
    • other phrases I've seen on releases that mean "instrumental" Attention! these are version info:
      • song title (original instrumental)
      • song title (without vocal)
      • song title (Backtrack)
      • song title (Backtracks)
      • song title (Back track)
      • song title (Backing track)
      • song title (karaoke)
      • song title (original karaoke)
      • song title (-1 karaoke)
      • song title (karaoke version)
      • song title (it's-your-turn-mix)
      • song title (missing both version)
      • song title (TV version) (sometimes means instrumental, more often means edited short version)
      • song title (music box version)
      • song title (off vocal version)
      • song title (vocalless version)
      • song title (negative)—not a separate version, the exact same mix as the original minus the vocal track (for karaoke, probably).
  • "instrumental" (sometimes version info, sometimes not)
  • "(live)" and variations
  • "feat. Artist X" / "featuring Some Body on flute" / "feat. Artist X of BandName"
  • "Artist A versus Artist B"
  • "from the movie XY" (what about games and other media?)
  • "soundtrack" (??)
  • "bonus" / "limited edition bonus"
  • "unreleased" / "previously unreleased" / "outtake" "album outtake"
  • "taken from OtherReleaseName"
  • "excerpt" / "highlights"
  • "medley"
  • "jam": example
  • "Other Artist cover" up to "originally by Other Artist on album AName in 1997" or "originally recorded by Hawkwind"
  • "Nom de chanson (French version of Song Name)" — extra info: this song is a translation of "Song Name" to French
    • or just "Same Name (German)" — in this case it's version info!
    • or "Title in Italian (translation in English)" — in this case there is no song with the English title, the translation in parantheses is either part of title or just helpful info
  • "Song Name - Composer Name" or "Song Name - music:AnArtist, lyrics:AnotherArtist"
  • I've also seen more weird things like:
    • Excerpt of "Churchil's Speech & Beginning of Aces High" (sic - we'd probably use the quotes differently)
    • Intro (folcloric processing by N. Covaci) (instrumental) (very uninspired translation by me)

Discussion

I'm unclear as to why all the variants that mean the same as "instrumental" are version info but "instrumental" isn't. It sounds like "instrumental" is being overloaded with two meanings. For example, last week these two songs were both released on singles:
安倍なつみ - スイートホリック - 03 - スイートホリック (instrumental) (4:23)
石川智晶 - 美しければそれでいい - 03 - 美しければそれでいい (without vocal) (4:01)
If you read the list above it'd indicate that the first isn't version info while the second is, even though they're both vocalless versions of the main track of each single. --DJKC

  • Indeed. It's somewhat tiresome that this has been written at all, as the recent discussions prove that it CAN be version info. I have revised the comment. --Gecks

More info to be taken from TrackVersion. --Zout