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'''NOTE: This page is still in progress.'''
 
  
 
== Synopsis ==
 
== Synopsis ==
This style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track.
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This proposed style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track in conditions or situations not specifically laid out in other official guidelines.
  
 
== Definition ==
 
== Definition ==
 
The criteria exists of (but not exclusively to) chunks of audio that fulfil:
 
The criteria exists of (but not exclusively to) chunks of audio that fulfil:
 
* '''Must exist originally as a continuous mix.''' Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
 
* '''Must exist originally as a continuous mix.''' Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
* Almost always a [[Live Bootleg Style|bootleg]] (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
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* Almost always a bootleg (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
* Are not strictly [[Live Bootleg Style|Live]] performances as they may have had no concert location, no specific audience, broadcast simultaneously to a number of locations, or some or all of the above.
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* Are not strictly [[Live Bootleg Style|live bootleg]] performances as they may have had no concert location, no specific audience, broadcast simultaneously to a number of locations, or multiple of the above.
 
* In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many songs that can be discreetly separated and not one single very long song.
 
* In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many songs that can be discreetly separated and not one single very long song.
* If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many discreet songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
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* If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many discreet songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz (in the same release group, explained below) following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
* Must exist in the past, future dates or estimated scheduled reoccurring shows are not allowed.
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* Must exist in the past. Future dates are not allowed.
  
 
== The Problem ==
 
== The Problem ==
MusicBrainz puts a strict emphasis on releases that have been physically or digitally releases through a label. This gives the release a label, release date, country, barcode etc. Similarly a whole other set of guidelines exist for Live and Bootleg performances that may or may not have been released through standard means (never released or "fan managed")
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MusicBrainz puts a strict emphasis on releases that have been physically or digitally released through a label or otherwise official means - this gives the release a label, release date, country, barcode etc. Similarly a whole other set of guidelines exist for [[Live Bootleg Style|Live and Bootleg]] performances that may or may not have been released through standard means (never released or "fan managed.")
  
It is clear that audio recorded from radio, TV, etc would be classified as Bootleg and sometimes the releases do fall into the official [[Live Bootleg Style]] if so this should be used.
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It is clear that audio recorded from radio, TV, etc would be classified as Bootleg and sometimes the releases do fall into the official [[Live Bootleg Style]] - if so this should be used.
  
 
== The Proposed Solution ==
 
== The Proposed Solution ==
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=== Track Title(s) ===
 
=== Track Title(s) ===
 
* For single part Continuous Mix releases the title of the track will be the same name as release title (e.g. '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix''').
 
* For single part Continuous Mix releases the title of the track will be the same name as release title (e.g. '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix''').
* When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the Part Style) so like:<br/>
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* When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the [[Part Number Style]]) so like:<br/>
 
Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
 
Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1'''<br/>
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1'''<br/>
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=== Release Annotation ===
 
=== Release Annotation ===
Putting all the track names and artists into the track title would be inappropriate, all this information should be listed in the release annotation.
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Putting all the track names and artists into the track title would be inappropriate, all this information should be listed in the release annotation. Along with any other general annotation information.
  
 
=== Release Event ===
 
=== Release Event ===
* Date: is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded.) So for bootlegs that are replayed on the original date is to be entered as the release event.
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* Date: Is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded.) So for bootlegs that are replayed only the original date is to be entered as the release event.
 
* Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be <nowiki>[Worldwide]</nowiki> just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. <nowiki>[Unknown Country]</nowiki> is suitable if not enough information can be found.
 
* Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be <nowiki>[Worldwide]</nowiki> just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. <nowiki>[Unknown Country]</nowiki> is suitable if not enough information can be found.
* Label: Most bootlegs will have a label. For example the ''A State of Trance'' episodes are broadcast under the similarly named [http://musicbrainz.org/label/5a5acac3-a09f-4ff3-88c0-a459d3b122b9.html A State of Trance] label.
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* Label: Some bootlegs will have a label. For example the ''A State of Trance'' episodes are broadcast under the similarly named [http://musicbrainz.org/label/5a5acac3-a09f-4ff3-88c0-a459d3b122b9.html A State of Trance] label.
 
* Catalog #: There could be a catalog number but this is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
 
* Catalog #: There could be a catalog number but this is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
 
* Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
 
* Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
* Format: Digital Media is the best match as thats how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct format is Digital Media is not the case.
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* Format: Digital Media is the best match as that's how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct medium if Digital Media is not the case.
  
 
== Examples ==
 
== Examples ==
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== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==
 
* [[Live Bootleg Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
 
* [[Live Bootleg Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
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* [[Part Number Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
  
 
== Discussion ==
 
== Discussion ==

Revision as of 08:44, 22 September 2010

NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL STYLE GUIDELINE. DO NOT USE THIS AS A GUIDELINE UNTIL SPEAKING TO AN AUTOEDITOR FIRST

Synopsis

This proposed style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track in conditions or situations not specifically laid out in other official guidelines.

Definition

The criteria exists of (but not exclusively to) chunks of audio that fulfil:

  • Must exist originally as a continuous mix. Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
  • Almost always a bootleg (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
  • Are not strictly live bootleg performances as they may have had no concert location, no specific audience, broadcast simultaneously to a number of locations, or multiple of the above.
  • In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many songs that can be discreetly separated and not one single very long song.
  • If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many discreet songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz (in the same release group, explained below) following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
  • Must exist in the past. Future dates are not allowed.

The Problem

MusicBrainz puts a strict emphasis on releases that have been physically or digitally released through a label or otherwise official means - this gives the release a label, release date, country, barcode etc. Similarly a whole other set of guidelines exist for Live and Bootleg performances that may or may not have been released through standard means (never released or "fan managed.")

It is clear that audio recorded from radio, TV, etc would be classified as Bootleg and sometimes the releases do fall into the official Live Bootleg Style - if so this should be used.

The Proposed Solution

Release Groups and Titles

  • Continuous Mixes can exist as a single or multipart continuous mix. For single part continuous mixes the title of the release may look like:

A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix

  • The release group will house the continuous mix and/or the split version so the release group name should not contain the suffix "Continuous Mix" such an example may look like:

Release Group: A State of Trance 470
   Release: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix
   Release: A State of Trance 470

Track Title(s)

  • For single part Continuous Mix releases the title of the track will be the same name as release title (e.g. A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix).
  • When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the Part Number Style) so like:

Release: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix
   Track: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1
   Track: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 2

Release Annotation

Putting all the track names and artists into the track title would be inappropriate, all this information should be listed in the release annotation. Along with any other general annotation information.

Release Event

  • Date: Is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded.) So for bootlegs that are replayed only the original date is to be entered as the release event.
  • Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be [Worldwide] just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. [Unknown Country] is suitable if not enough information can be found.
  • Label: Some bootlegs will have a label. For example the A State of Trance episodes are broadcast under the similarly named A State of Trance label.
  • Catalog #: There could be a catalog number but this is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
  • Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
  • Format: Digital Media is the best match as that's how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct medium if Digital Media is not the case.

Examples

Sources

Discussion