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== Synopsis ==
 
== Synopsis ==
This style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track.
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This proposed style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track. In some situations it can be seen as an extension to the official [[Live Bootleg Style]] because most Continuous Mixes are bootlegs.
  
 
== Definition ==
 
== Definition ==
The criteria exists of (but not exclusively to) chunks of audio that fulfil:
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A '''Continuous Mix'' is defined as having the criteria;
 
* '''Must exist originally as a continuous mix.''' Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
 
* '''Must exist originally as a continuous mix.''' Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
* Almost always a [[Live Bootleg Style|bootleg]] (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
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* '''Are not live concerts.''' This makes them a [[Live Bootleg Style]]. The exception to this if the concert is part of a longer well known series where all the other releases are also similarly Continuous Mixes.
* Are not strictly [[Live Bootleg Style|Live]] performances as they may have had no concert location, no specific audience, broadcast simultaneously to a number of locations, or some or all of the above.
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* Almost always a bootleg (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
* In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many songs that can be discreetly separated and not one single very long song.
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* In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many separate (back-to-back) songs; ''not one single very long song''.
* If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many discreet songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
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** Example: [http://musicbrainz.org/release/cb57bbde-ac3c-4fa7-bf12-12c418819c9e.html 45:33 by LCD Soundsystem] is not a continuous mix.
* Must exist in the past, future dates or estimated scheduled reoccurring shows are not allowed.
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=== Notes ===
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* If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many back-to-back songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz (in the same release group) following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
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* Being a Continuous Mix release does not relinquish any other guidelines that may apply. The guidelines that exist for Continuous Mixes are on top of other official guidelines.
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== The Problem ==
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== Guidelines ==
MusicBrainz puts a strict emphasis on releases that have been physically or digitally releases through a label. This gives the release a label, release date, country, barcode etc. Similarly a whole other set of guidelines exist for Live and Bootleg performances that may or may not have been released through standard means (never released or "fan managed")
 
  
It is clear that audio recorded from radio, TV, etc would be classified as Bootleg and sometimes the releases do fall into the official [[Live Bootleg Style]] if so this should be used.
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1. Continuous Mixes can exist as a single or multipart continuous mix. In either case the release title will take the same form:<br/>
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:''Title'': Continuous Mix<br/>
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:* Example: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''
  
== The Proposed Solution ==
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2. The [[Release Group]] will house the continuous mix and/or the split version so the release group name should not contain the suffix ": Continuous Mix" such an example may look like:<br/>
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:Release Group: '''A State of Trance 470'''<br/>
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::Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
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::Release: '''A State of Trance 470'''
  
=== Release Groups and Titles ===
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3. When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the [[Part Number Style]]) so like:<br/>
* Continuous Mixes can exist as a single or multipart continuous mix. For single part continuous mixes the title of the release may look like:<br/>
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:Release Group: '''A State of Trance 470'''<br/>
'''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''
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::Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
* The release group will house the continuous mix and/or the split version so the release group name should not contain the suffix "Continuous Mix" such an example may look like:<br/>
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:::Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1'''<br/>
Release Group: '''A State of Trance 470'''<br/>
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:::Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 2'''
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release: '''A State of Trance 470'''
 
  
=== Track Title(s) ===
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4. The track titles and respective artists are entered into the annotation.
* For single part Continuous Mix releases the title of the track will be the same name as release title (e.g. '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix''').
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:Continuous Mixes do not follow [[Multiple Title Style]].
* When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the Part Style) so like:<br/>
 
Release: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix'''<br/>
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1'''<br/>
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Track: '''A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 2'''
 
  
=== Release Events ===
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5. The [[Release Event]] is made up of;
* Date: is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded.) So for bootlegs that are replayed on the original date is to be entered as the release event.
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:* Date: Is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded, copied or redistributed.) Bootlegs that are replayed (this sometimes happens on radio or TV) only the original date of that broadcast is to be entered as the release event.
* Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be <nowiki>[Worldwide]</nowiki> just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. <nowiki>[Unknown Country]</nowiki> is suitable if not enough information can be found.
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:* Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be <nowiki>[Worldwide]</nowiki> just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. <nowiki>[Unknown Country]</nowiki> is suitable if not enough information can be found.
* Label: Most bootlegs will have a label. For example the ''A State of Trance'' episodes are broadcast under the similarly named [http://musicbrainz.org/label/5a5acac3-a09f-4ff3-88c0-a459d3b122b9.html A State of Trance] label.
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:* Label: Some bootlegs will have a label. For example the ''A State of Trance'' episodes are broadcast under the similarly named [http://musicbrainz.org/label/5a5acac3-a09f-4ff3-88c0-a459d3b122b9.html A State of Trance] label.
* Catalog #: There could be a catalog number but this is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
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:* Catalog #: There is rarely a catalog number for bootlegs (this is ''not'' the same as an episode number.) The catalog number is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
* Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
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:* Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
* Format: Digital Media is the best match as thats how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct format is Digital Media is not the case.
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:* Format: Digital Media is the best match as that's how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct medium if Digital Media is not the case.
  
 
== Examples ==
 
== Examples ==
 
* [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/477b8c0c-c5fc-4ad2-b5b2-191f0bf2a9df.html Armin van Buuren] has a long running weekly radio show ''A State of Trance''.
 
* [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/477b8c0c-c5fc-4ad2-b5b2-191f0bf2a9df.html Armin van Buuren] has a long running weekly radio show ''A State of Trance''.
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** [http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/a87a7f45-a557-4f16-8ff5-5ac277a576b3.html A State of Trance 470]
 
* [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b1240d55-4b9e-4f82-8183-d6a43b0d23a0.html Sophie Sugar] has a monthly radio show ''Symphony'' similar to that of ''A State of Trance''.
 
* [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b1240d55-4b9e-4f82-8183-d6a43b0d23a0.html Sophie Sugar] has a monthly radio show ''Symphony'' similar to that of ''A State of Trance''.
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** [http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/ed46ea94-9cb0-4971-876f-8bfc083ada84.html Symphony 8]
  
 
== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==
 
* [[Live Bootleg Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
 
* [[Live Bootleg Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
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* [[Part Number Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
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* [[Multiple Title Style]]: Official Style Guideline.
  
 
== Discussion ==
 
== Discussion ==
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See [[Proposal_talk:Continuous_Mix_Style]].

Latest revision as of 20:32, 28 August 2016


Status: This page describes an active style guideline proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-299
Champion: Chancey
Current status: RFC

RFC


Synopsis

This proposed style attempts to address the ambiguity with releases that exist as a full continuous track. In some situations it can be seen as an extension to the official Live Bootleg Style because most Continuous Mixes are bootlegs.

Definition

A 'Continuous Mix is defined as having the criteria;

  • Must exist originally as a continuous mix. Normal releases that have been joined together are not continuous mixes and should not be entered as releases unless with a special reason.
  • Are not live concerts. This makes them a Live Bootleg Style. The exception to this if the concert is part of a longer well known series where all the other releases are also similarly Continuous Mixes.
  • Almost always a bootleg (recorded off the radio, TV, etc.)
  • In almost all cases Continuous Mixes are the joining (and/or mixing) of many separate (back-to-back) songs; not one single very long song.

Notes

  • If a Continuous Mix is defined as the solid state of many back-to-back songs then it's possible that the Continuous Mix will be split into its individual song members and exist as a separate release on MusicBrainz (in the same release group) following the standard guidelines for whatever content has been split.
  • Being a Continuous Mix release does not relinquish any other guidelines that may apply. The guidelines that exist for Continuous Mixes are on top of other official guidelines.


Guidelines

1. Continuous Mixes can exist as a single or multipart continuous mix. In either case the release title will take the same form:

Title: Continuous Mix
  • Example: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix

2. The Release Group will house the continuous mix and/or the split version so the release group name should not contain the suffix ": Continuous Mix" such an example may look like:

Release Group: A State of Trance 470
Release: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix
Release: A State of Trance 470

3. When continuous mixes are split into parts each part becomes a track (following the Part Number Style) so like:

Release Group: A State of Trance 470
Release: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix
Track: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 1
Track: A State of Trance 470: Continuous Mix, Part 2

4. The track titles and respective artists are entered into the annotation.

Continuous Mixes do not follow Multiple Title Style.

5. The Release Event is made up of;

  • Date: Is of the original broadcast (not of when it was recorded, copied or redistributed.) Bootlegs that are replayed (this sometimes happens on radio or TV) only the original date of that broadcast is to be entered as the release event.
  • Country: The country of original broadcast (even when it goes globally.) This should not be [Worldwide] just because it was broadcast worldwide. Often the country will be the same country as that of the label. [Unknown Country] is suitable if not enough information can be found.
  • Label: Some bootlegs will have a label. For example the A State of Trance episodes are broadcast under the similarly named A State of Trance label.
  • Catalog #: There is rarely a catalog number for bootlegs (this is not the same as an episode number.) The catalog number is not allowed to be made up. It must come from an official source or be left blank.
  • Barcode: Same thing as Catalog #.
  • Format: Digital Media is the best match as that's how most bootlegs exist, but the format should match the correct medium if Digital Media is not the case.

Examples

Sources

Discussion

See Proposal_talk:Continuous_Mix_Style.