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=A Frogs' Brigade Editing Party=
=A Frogs' Brigade Editing Party=


==Help WANTED (-- ["dmppanda"] 21:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC))==
==Help WANTED==


We badly need help to smack down the list of discids to investigate. You don't need to speak french for most of them!
We badly need help to smack down the list of discids to investigate. You don't need to speak french for most of them!
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* [[User:drsaunde|drsaunde]]
* [[User:drsaunde|drsaunde]]
* [[User:Keschte|Keschte]]
* [[User:Keschte|Keschte]]
* [[User:Zout|Zout]] (not really spontaneously :p - I asked for help with the overwelming list of discdids -- [[dmpanda]])
* [[User:Zout|Zout]] (not really spontaneously :p - I asked for help with the overwelming list of discdids -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]])


The following native editors have done work (add your name if I forgot you):
The following native editors have done work (add your name if I forgot you):
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==Notes==
==Notes==


===Editing suggestion:===
===Editing suggestions:===


Common typos:
Common typos:
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===Missing label / cat data===
===Missing label / cat data===


* [[Album:d0798f19-5ff3-48c2-a3e0-fe939353c16c|Channel V Thailand, Volume 1]]
* [[Album:d0798f19-5ff3-48c2-a3e0-fe939353c16c|Channel V Thailand, Volume 1]] Utterly obscure. VA comp by a tv channel from Thailand...
* [[Album:2e474a1b-a367-4218-83fc-4999c6210bac|Sound Concierge #501: "Blanket"]] Japanese artist (dj?).
* [[Album:41e35bbb-c44b-4f79-a291-ea78dc722bcb|Comment je vis]]
* [[Album:e4cbb6ee-d236-440e-8b36-bde04253f571|10 ans de Saravah (disc 2)]] Rare Saravah stuff obscurely re-edited in CD during the 80s. You probably will have to dig this one in a library.
* [[Album:2e474a1b-a367-4218-83fc-4999c6210bac|Sound Concierge #501: "Blanket"]]
* [[Album:bf63d481-1f27-4a54-b547-942ac05aeee3|Noël ensemble]] Though it's Universal stuff, still miss track times...
* [[Album:e4cbb6ee-d236-440e-8b36-bde04253f571|10 ans de Saravah (disc 2)]]
* [[Album:f9cd925a-0518-4783-b936-acaa7851512b|L'Intégrale 1970-1980, Volume 1]] See annotation for more doubts
* [[Album:2f256ed9-fed5-47cc-a483-9921b5b2fb82|Amour foot]]
* [[Album:bf63d481-1f27-4a54-b547-942ac05aeee3|Noël ensemble]]
* [[Album:f9cd925a-0518-4783-b936-acaa7851512b|L'Intégrale 1970-1980, Volume 1]]
* [[Album:28458f1b-f8ae-41f4-a17d-b58689b52069|Bobby Tutti Frutti]]
* [[Album:28127d04-a40f-4e4f-89fd-63ca38bcfd9d|Anthologie de la chanson française enregistrée 1969]]
* [[Album:28127d04-a40f-4e4f-89fd-63ca38bcfd9d|Anthologie de la chanson française enregistrée 1969]]
* [[Album:140b8190-b94b-4729-9bad-abdb9bb73515|Sans trahir]]
* [[Album:140b8190-b94b-4729-9bad-abdb9bb73515|Sans trahir]]

Revision as of 22:38, 31 October 2006

A Frogs' Brigade Editing Party

Help WANTED

We badly need help to smack down the list of discids to investigate. You don't need to speak french for most of them!

  • some of them require intensive researchs in language X (say: german)
  • some of them require specific knowledge of "genre" Y (say: classical)
  • some of them are simple homebrews, but most of them are a bit more tricky
  • some of them may be simply ok...

We also need help hunting label/cat/EAN we still miss for some releases. 

What is this?

Motivation for this event: in the mailing list


Future: will be moved back into FrenchArtists whenever we think it's appropriate. 

Original myth of Φειδιππιδης: 

So, when all-french-releases-typos were dust, all cried, "To the irc chan!

Run, Pheidippides, one edit more! the meed is thy due!

MusicBrainz is saved, thank Pan, go shout!" He flung down his shield

Ran like fire once more: and the space 'twixt the fennel-field

And MB was stubble again, a field which a fire runs through,

Till in he broke: "Rejoice, we fixed-em-all!" Like wine through clay,

Joy in his blood bursting his brainz, he died - the bliss!

- dmpΠάνda

Contributors...

The following non-french-native editors have spontaneously contributed edits:

The following native editors have done work (add your name if I forgot you):

The following persons happen to also work on french stuff:

The following persons have contributed cheers:

Notes

Editing suggestions:

Common typos:

  • oeil for œil
  • coeur for cœur
  • soeur for sœur
  • moeurs for mœurs

Mangled collabs and feats:

  • There are a lot of duos/trios/grouped artists names that are either incomplete or simply bogus (search the VA albums, especially taratata stuff)
  • tracks titles containings "(avec " or "(en duo avec" are indeed "feats"

Investigate and report:

Aliases to verify:

  • Les Ondes d'Ombres (asked Shlublu to do it)

Nats to verify:

  • Air
  • Frida Boccara
  • Début de Soirée

Bogus artist awaiting to be sorted:

  • Les enfants de la télé
  • Television Theme Songs
  • RECRE A2
  • Techno Toons

Abbreviations used in the status list:

  • D = Discogs, W = Wikipedia, M = Myspace, O = Official website, F = Fan site, I = IMDB, MM = MusicMoz

Global status

Discids have been reviewed for all artists actually linked in that page.

Have been searched exhaustively, up to (including) letter A of the TODO list:

  • Discogs & Wikipedia (artist entries)
  • Discogs & Wikipedia.fr (release entries), but Air, Adamo and Jacques Brel
  • Aliases
  • Collabs ARs have been set
  • Artist dates

From letter B to E of the todo list (included):

  • Discogs & Wikipedia (artist entries)

Discids to investigate

May, or may not be homebrews (don't know what to think):

One of the two is certainly bogus, but it's difficult to tell which:

First id has four tracks offsetted by 30sec~1minute, I can't decide if it's legit or not (note: I know for sure the second id *is* legit):

Strange stuff, part 1: A few tracks offsetted:

Probably ok, but needs confirmation:

Awaiting merge before further verification of the ids:

Waiting for the dust to come down...:

Atrocious mess:

Positively awful, some work already done:

Stuff...:

Missing label / cat data

List of artists reaching "Good quality"

Criteria:

  • All releases (including all VA releases):
    • have spelling verified
    • have good capitalization (with or without the debated "exceptions")
    • have language and status verified and set
    • have at least a release event
    • have been searched on Amazon
    • have been searched on discogs
    • have at least a label name in annotation (means the release is not bogus/dubious), and ideally cat number + EAN
    • no bogus discid
  • Artist:
    • artist name and sortname verified
    • no bogus "ghost" for the artist in the db
    • artist aliases have been verified
    • artist birthdate/death date have been researched
    • "collabs artists" has all his collab ARs set
    • discogs and wikipedia pages have been searched/added (favor the fr wikipedia domain)
    • no bogus NAT
  • Radiate:
    • all french artists from VA comp where this artist is present are present in this page (at least in the dump zone)
    • all french artists having collaborated with this artist are present in this page
  • Maintain:
    • you're subscribed to the artist and plan on watching the incoming flow

Note: some of the releases may not match the requested quality criteria. Still, the presence of the artist here means some time has been spent *researching* the information, even if the label/cat information is still missing.

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

  • Gasteropodes Killers (checked -- dmppanda 15:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC))
    • Miss artist dates
    • Obscure. Is it "Gasteropodes" or "Gastéropodes"? Punk stuff...
  • Garage Lopez (checked -- dmppanda 15:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC))
    • Miss artist dates (obscure punk stuff)

H

  • Miss artist dates

I

J

K

L

  • Miss artist dates

M

N

O

P

Q

R

S

T

U

V

W

X

Y

Z

Decent

Criteria:

  • no spelling errors
  • good capitalization (with or without the debated "exceptions")
  • all releases have language/script set

(note that some artists actually in this category are better than "decent", but we still need to verify that)

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

I

J

K

L

M

N

O

P

Q

R

S

T

U

V

W

X

Y

Z

TODO/TO-CHECK

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

I

J

K

L

M

N

O

P

R

S

T

V

W

Z

Discussion

Apparently missing

Or are they in, mispelled?

  • Didier Sutrac
  • Vivien Savage
  • Dario Moréno
  • Fréderic Lermer
  • Jacques Lantier
  • Hélène
  • Corynne Chabry
  • Jérôme Elisabeth
  • Lény Escudero
  • René Joly
  • Pablo Villafranca

Are not french artists

... though they ended up in this list for some reason we might need to guess before removing them definitely

  • Tina Arena ended up in french artists because she sometimes sings in french, which is the definition of this list. To remove her (as Joan Baez and others...), we must decide if this list is about artists who have at least some titles in french, or about artists who sing mostly in french
    • a (really quick) look at her releases gives me the feeling she sang very few french songs (but this need to be verified). Now, I'm suggesting the following criteria: "Is to be included in the main list an artist with at least one release with language set to french. Artists with no such release, but with a few french tracks should be included in a secondary list we could possibly maintain below".
      • I would draw the limit elsewhere... or add another category. Christopher Young did a release in french, and I am sure there must be other esoteric examples!

Unclear and/or mixed with homonym

  • Bulldozer
    • Is apparently an italian (?) metal band. *But* has a track on a VA french punk anthology, which doesn't really fit in with the profile.

Coming in ASAP

This is a dump zone used to "dump" artist names encountered while "radiating" from cleaned-up artist. Wether they fit in or not is yet to search and decide.

  • Frank Alamo
  • Micky Amline
  • Helene April
  • Jo Alan
  • Antoine
  • Jean-Louis Aubert
  • Arno
  • Bijou
  • Beth (check also B.E.T.H.)
  • Jane Birkin
  • Jane Birkin & Serge Gainsbourg
  • Françoiz Breut
  • Benjamin Biolay
  • Minouche Barelli
  • Ronnie Bird
  • Ria Bartok
  • Liz Brady
  • Richard de Bordeaux
  • Cali
  • Cox
  • Philippe Chatel
  • Alain Chamfort
  • Pascal Comelade
  • Eric Charden
  • Mary Christine
  • Clothilde
  • Patricia Carli
  • Oscar Castro (verify and possibly create, add to its collabs)
  • Danielle Darieux & Pierre Mingand
  • Dolly
  • Étienne Daho
  • Delizia
  • Dani
  • Stephan Eicher
  • Eileen
  • FFF
  • Freak Out
  • Fredericks - Goldman - Jones
  • Garou
  • De Giafferi
  • Suzanne Gabriello
  • Monique Gaube
  • Nancy Holloway
  • Gillian Hills
  • Jocy
  • Jiji
  • Khaled (which one?)
  • Kyo
  • Kinito
  • Claudine Longet
  • Valerie Lagrange
  • Charlotte Leslie
  • -M- (Matthieu Chédid)
  • Matmatah
  • Mano Negra
  • Mass Hysteria
  • Monty
  • Manon
  • Ariane Moffatt
  • Lorraine Myra
  • Jina Miko
  • Les Muppets
  • Michele & Les Wouaps
  • Les Négresses Vertes
  • Niagara
  • Prohom
  • Paris Combo
  • Pigalle
  • Parabellum
  • Jean Jacques Perrey
  • Raphaël & Jean-Lous Aubert
  • Les Rita Mitsouko
  • La Ruda Salska
  • Rita
  • Sullivan
  • Stella
  • Natacha Snitkine
  • Valerie Sarn
  • Silmarils
  • Starshooter
  • Swanndust
  • Hubert-Félix Thiéfaine
  • Yann Tiersen
  • Arnold Turboust
  • Trio Sourire
  • Jacqueline Taïeb
  • Aston Villa
  • Les VRP
  • David Alexandre Winter
  • Dominique Walter
  • Zazie
  • Julie Zenatti