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** Bass pedals: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_pedals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_pedals]. I only know of two cases so far: Threshold's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5fb1acc6-6bd6-43f4-83f0-fcce36df95dc.html Wounded Land] and Steve Thorne's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5f1d8dfc-265e-4e3f-ba1f-42595548d306.html EMO1] but according to the page, several prog bands have used them. -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
** Bass pedals: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_pedals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_pedals]. I only know of two cases so far: Threshold's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5fb1acc6-6bd6-43f4-83f0-fcce36df95dc.html Wounded Land] and Steve Thorne's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5f1d8dfc-265e-4e3f-ba1f-42595548d306.html EMO1] but according to the page, several prog bands have used them. -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
** Music(al) box: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_box http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_box]. Only have one case so far: Steve Thorne's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5f1d8dfc-265e-4e3f-ba1f-42595548d306.html EMO1] - so perhaps we should wait for more occurences. This is probably something for the "Other instruments" section. -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
** Music(al) box: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_box http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_box]. Only have one case so far: Steve Thorne's [http://musicbrainz.org/release/5f1d8dfc-265e-4e3f-ba1f-42595548d306.html EMO1] - so perhaps we should wait for more occurrences. This is probably something for the "Other instruments" section. -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


==Discussion==
==Discussion==

Revision as of 14:32, 25 February 2007

Status, (as don would say): AdvancedInstrumentTree is now implemented! Go a head and to discuss instruments and suggest new ones!

Discuss Instrument additions and instrument addition wishes here. please use trac to add the request, (assign it to either luks or ZaphodBeeblebrox) when decided upon.

A new instrument can be added only when it is used on at least 5 regular, proper releases. live or album ok
Please supply as much information about the instrument as possible, mo will probably ask for more information about the instrument if none is given. The best way to get your pet instrument added is by doing some research, give a short concise explanation on what it is, and providing ample links.

Please also do a second search in the Instrument list to make sure it is not already there : )

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Discussion

The Dohol is a type of drum used in classical and folk Iranian music; see for instance http://www.iranmusic.tv/instruments/ (not used only by the Kurds but also by the people from Lorestan; also mentioned on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsalan_Kamkar and other Wikipedia pages, but it doesn't have its own page yet.) I failed to add a artist/instrument relationship for an album I just added since the Dohol is not in the list. If "5 regular, proper releases" are required for an instrument to be listed, I'm afraid it's going to be a long time before such Iranian classical/folk music can be properly described. MarjoleinKatsma

Why shouldn't particular types of synth be added? They're frequently listed on CDs and some people care what type of synth was played. Why not make them subtypes of 'Synthesizer'. PaulSharpe

  • Because it's impossible to keep up with them all, especially considering the protracted process by which new instruments need to go through before they are added. I've said time and time again that this is all NUTS - what we need are a few (50 tops) instrument/role macro-categories, and then a free text field by which users can input qualifiers. Eg: "Synthesizer [[[Mini Moog|MiniMoog]]]". --Gecks
    • Free text fields are not possible in the current AdvancedRelationships implementation. (And also I think a mixture of a list and free text is counter productive, but well..) You guys are just too impatient. :) Let mo finish his job of restructuring the tree and after that he will create a wiki page to make the process of adding instruments much faster. Noone will die inbetween. And it will prevent total chaos to do it structured and in this order. --Shepard

The number of different synths produced numbers in the several hundreds. Roland alone has made well over 100 different synths and tone generators. Do you want to start listing all of those? That's a slipperly slope to be on. Besides, they are just models and brands. In the end the artist is still playing a synthesizer. If we start listing those then to be consistent we'd have to list the brand and model of all of the other instruments. Does it matter that Jaco Pastorius played a Fender Precision Bass on most of his albums or can we be content to know that he played electric bass guitar? Likewise, does it really matter that Lyle Mays played a Korg Triton and a Steinway Grand on the last Pat Metheny album or is knowing that he played synthesizer and piano enough? MattPerry

Failed, and why

Recently Added

  • Minimoog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimoog) This is just a brand and model of synth. It should not be added.
  • Different Recorders for nikki
  • nai, Doyra, Mendoza
  • Bansuri
  • Tiple, Mexican/Spanish Vihuela differenichation (spelling here help) (please AnswerMe)
  • Sarod, Kanun
  • Baritone Guitar