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Why shouldn't particular types of synth be added? They're frequently listed on CDs and some people care what type of synth was played. Why not make them subtypes of 'Synthesizer'. [[User:PaulSharpe|PaulSharpe]]
Why shouldn't particular types of synth be added? They're frequently listed on CDs and some people care what type of synth was played. Why not make them subtypes of 'Synthesizer'. [[User:PaulSharpe|PaulSharpe]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Because it's impossible to keep up with them all, especially considering the protracted process by which new instruments need to go through before they are added. I've said time and time again that this is all NUTS - what we need are a few (50 tops) instrument/role macro-categories, and then a free text field by which users can input qualifiers. Eg: "Synthesizer [[[Mini Moog|MiniMoog]]]". --[[Gecks]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Because it's impossible to keep up with them all, especially considering the protracted process by which new instruments need to go through before they are added. I've said time and time again that this is all NUTS - what we need are a few (50 tops) instrument/role macro-categories, and then a free text field by which users can input qualifiers. Eg: "Synthesizer [[[Mini Moog|MiniMoog]]]". --[[User:Gecks|Gecks]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Free text fields are not possible in the current [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]] implementation. (And also I think a mixture of a list and free text is counter productive, but well..) You guys are just too impatient. :) Let mo finish his job of restructuring the tree and after that he will create a wiki page to make the process of adding instruments much faster. Noone will die inbetween. And it will prevent total chaos to do it structured and in this order. --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]]
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Revision as of 02:00, 14 December 2005

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NOTE: this is a work in progress, any additions or fixes in spelling or simmilar will be the *final* touch on this, after all the instruments and stuff have been added and re-ordered.
please add requests at the bottom of the list. do not add them randomly in the table as I will then lose my concentration and direction.
later a special wikipage for instruments wishes will be created. this is a self project. please let me tinker with it just a little while before others have a go. thanks.



ok, ignore this part. just look at the part that begins with 'instruments'

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      • Baritone (Baritone)
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      • Soprano (Soprano)
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      • Choir/Chourus (Choir/Chourus)
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      • Reader (Reader)
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        • Reeds (Reeds)
          • Double reed (Double reed)
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              • Uilleann pipes (blown using small bellows strapped around the waist)
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            • Contrabassoon (Contrabassoon)
            • Oboe (Oboe)
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              • Heckelphone (Heckelphone)
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              • Alto saxophone (Alto saxophone)
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              • Baritone saxophone (Baritone saxophone)
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            • Vertical flute (Vertical flute)
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            • Willow flute (Willow flute (seljefløyte))
            • Shakuhachi (Japanese end-blown flute)
            • Tin whistle (Tin whistle)
            • Slide whistle (Slide whistle)
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            • Pan pipes (Pan pipes)
            • Ocarina (Ocarina)
            • Nose flute (Nose flute)
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          • Cornet (Cornet)
          • Flugelhorn (Flugelhorn)
          • Mellophone (Mellophone)
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            • French horn (French horn)
            • Baritone horn (Baritone horn)
            • Tenor horn (Alto horn) (Tenor horn (Alto horn))
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            • Sousaphone (Sousaphone)
            • Wagner tuba (Wagner tuba)
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            • Bass Trombone (bass trombone)
            • Sackbut (Sackbut)
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          • Cornett (Cornett)
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          • Shofar (Shofar)
          • Conch (Conch shell)
          • Didgeridoo (Didgeridoo)
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        • Reed organ (Reed organ)
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        • Calliope (Calliope)
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            • Soprano Violin (Soprano violin)
            • Alto Violin (Alto violin)
            • Violotta (Violotta (Tenor Violin))
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              • Hardingfele (Hardingfele (Hardanger))
              • Kemenche (Kemenche)
            • Electric violin (Electric violin)
            • Vielle (Vielle / Vieille)
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          • Jing Hú (Jing Hú (Jinghu))
          • Èrhú (Èrhú (Chinese violin))
            • Gaohu (Gaohu)
          • Zhonghu (Zhonghu (Chinese viola))
          • Cizhonghu (Cizhonghu (tenor))
          • Gehu (Chinese western cello fusion)
            • Diyingehu (Chinese double bass)
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          • Kokyu (Japanese string instrument)
          • Morin khuur / Matouqin (Mongolian string instrument)
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            • Greek baglama Greek baglama
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            • Zhongruan (alto Moon guitar)
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          • Upright Piano (Upright Piano)
          • Toy piano (Toy piano)
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            • Chamberlin (Chamberlin)
            • Mellotron (Mellotron)
            • Keyboard (Keyboard)
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        • Aeolian harp (Aeolian harp)
        • Hurdy gurdy (Hurdy gurdy)
        • Mbira (Mbira)
        • Washtub bass (Washtub bass)
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        • Timpani (Timpani)
        • Tambourine (Tambourine)
        • Doyra (Doyra)
        • Congas (Congas)
        • Bongos (Bongos)
        • Goblet drum (has many many names. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblet_drum)
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        • Gong (Gong)
        • Cymbals (Cymbals)
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        • Castanets (Castanets)
          • Spoons (Spoons)
        • Claves (Claves)
        • Güiro (Güiro)
        • Mendoza (Mendoza (Monkey stick))
        • Ratchet (Ratchet)
        • Vibraslap (Vibraslap)
        • Washboard (Washboard)
        • Whip (Whip)
        • Wood Block (Wood Block)
          • Temple Blocks (Temple Blocks)
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        • Bells (Bells)
          • Handbells (Handbells)
          • Tubular Bells (Tubular Bells)
          • Cowbell (Cowbell)
          • Carillon (Carillon)
        • Xylophone (Xylophone)
          • Marimba (Marimba)
          • Glockenspiel (Glockenspiel)
            • Crotales (Crotales)
          • Celesta (Celesta)
          • Vibraphone (Vibraphone)
        • Timbales (Timbales)
        • Steelpan (Steelpan)
        • Triangle (Triangle)
        • Whistle (Whistle)
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      • Denis d'or (Denis d'or)
      • Dubreq Stylophone (Dubreq Stylophone)
      • Drum machine (Drum machine)
      • Ondes Martenot (Ondes Martenot)
      • Sampler (Sampler)
      • Synclavier (Synclavier)
      • Synthesizer (Synthesizer)
      • Teleharmonium (Teleharmonium)
      • Theremin (Theremin)
    • Other instruments (Other instruments)
      • Thai instruments (asked for by mo.)
        • Dàn nguyêt (a two-stringed lute with a circular, flat body, related to the corresponding chinese instrument "moon lute")
        • Dàn tỳ bà (Four-stringed lute with a pear-shaped body. Like the "moon lute", it has greatly elevated frets at the neck.)
      • Bull-roarer (Bull-roarer)
      • Hardart (Hardart)
      • Kazoo (Kazoo)
      • Lasso d'amore (Lasso d'amore)
      • Singing bowl (Singing bowl)
      • Suikinkutsu (Suikinkutsu (Japanese water zither))
      • Tibetan Water Drum (Tibetan Water Drum)
        • Waterphone (Waterphone)
      • Glass (H)armonica (Glass (H)armonica)
      • Programming (Programming)

Still missing instruments

See mails at http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2005-April/020476.html (requested in april!!!)

Why shouldn't particular types of synth be added? They're frequently listed on CDs and some people care what type of synth was played. Why not make them subtypes of 'Synthesizer'. PaulSharpe

  • Because it's impossible to keep up with them all, especially considering the protracted process by which new instruments need to go through before they are added. I've said time and time again that this is all NUTS - what we need are a few (50 tops) instrument/role macro-categories, and then a free text field by which users can input qualifiers. Eg: "Synthesizer [[[Mini Moog|MiniMoog]]]". --Gecks
    • Free text fields are not possible in the current AdvancedRelationships implementation. (And also I think a mixture of a list and free text is counter productive, but well..) You guys are just too impatient. :) Let mo finish his job of restructuring the tree and after that he will create a wiki page to make the process of adding instruments much faster. Noone will die inbetween. And it will prevent total chaos to do it structured and in this order. --Shepard

The number of different synths produced numbers in the several hundreds. Roland alone has made well over 100 different synths and tone generators. Do you want to start listing all of those? That's a slipperly slope to be on. Besides, they are just models and brands. In the end the artist is still playing a synthesizer. If we start listing those then to be consistent we'd have to list the brand and model of all of the other instruments. Does it matter that Jaco Pastorius played a Fender Precision Bass on most of his albums or can we be content to know that he played electric bass guitar? Likewise, does it really matter that Lyle Mays played a Korg Triton and a Steinway Grand on the last Pat Metheny album or is knowing that he played synthesizer and piano enough? MattPerry

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