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Revision as of 02:23, 6 December 2009

Status, (as don would say): AdvancedInstrumentTree is now implemented! Go ahead and discuss existing instruments and suggest new ones!

Discuss Instrument additions and instrument addition wishes here. Please use trac to add the request, (assign it to either luks or ZaphodBeeblebrox and use component "Style Issues: Instruments") when decided upon (see here for a list of open tickets).

A new instrument can be added only when it is used on at least 5 regular, proper releases (live or album).
Please supply as much information about the instrument as possible, mo will probably ask for more information about the instrument if none is given. The best way to get your pet instrument added is by doing some research, give a short concise explanation on what it is, and providing ample links.

Please also do a second search in the Instrument list to make sure it is not already there : )

Contents

Proposed Instrument List

12 string guitar

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • Found on almost any Genesis album. Right now I used acoustic guitar for those credits. - jongetje
      • For release 4 it's a 12-string acoustic guitar, maybe we can add electric and acoustic. -- Fabe56
      • For release 5 it's a 12-string acoustic guitar. -- vovel
    • Ticket for instrument creation

Accordina

    • AKA:
    • Description: it's a free reed musical instrument like the accordion or harmonica, more information
    • Instrument Family: Free reed
    • Appears On:

Afoxé

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a gourd (cabaça) wrapped in a net in which beads or small plastic balls are threaded, shaken to be played
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:

Agogô

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a type of bell
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:

Apito

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:

Arco Bass

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:

Ashiko

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a type of drum played with the hands
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:

Backwards electric guitar

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Not Too Late
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:
    • Comments:
      • Adam Levy is credited playing backwards electric guitars on Not Too Late. Is this really a separate instrument? :-S -- Prodoc 15:20, 08 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Honestly, I highly doubt it. He's probably just playing it behind his back/head, reversed, on in some other strange way. Or perhaps it's a left-hand guitar. I don't know. But I doubt it warrants an instrument listing on its own. -- FrederikSOlesen 00:27, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Balalaika double bass

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Dark Ages
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:
    • Comments:
      • Vitaly Hrenov is credited playing Balalaika double bass on Dark Ages. I don't know this instrument at all so I don't know if the 'double bass' aspect is default for this instrument or not. If it isn't, should we include it as a separate instrument? -- Prodoc 15:20, 08 March 2008 (UTC)
        • You provided the link to Wikipedia and still didn't read the article? Double bass would correspond to the contrabass tuning. Just use balalaika for now and record the tuning in the SubOptimalCredits. Tunings will most likely be added as a separate attribute. -- FrederikSOlesen 00:27, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Bandoneon

    • AKA:
    • Description: Description in Wikipedia
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:
    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • This is popular instrument in tango. Look for example on Last.fm tag and check an Amazon. -- Levittoux
        • This instrument is currently included, and this entry should probably be removed.
          • Not sure who left the above, but Bandoneon is not found anywhere in the AdvancedInstrumentTree, so I'm not sure how it is thus "currently included"??? -- BrianSchweitzer 18:51, 06 March 2009 (UTC)
            • Include in Free reed section as Bandoneón Fabe56.

Barrel Organ

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Keyboard
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:


Basset-horn

    • Comments:
      • Mozart wrote several works specifically for basset-horn. To properly AR the full 170 CD set, I need this one. -- BrianSchweitzer 06:21, 03 November 2007 (UTC)

Batá drum

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:
    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list, spelled as "Bata" at Discogs -- BrianSchweitzer



Bellowphone

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Blaster Beam

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Box / Sruti Box

    • Comments:
      • Some tracks on The Complete Songs of Robert Burns, Volume 3 credit a musician with "Box", which from the sound is a kind of accordion (see edits 7546921 & 7547611). Since other tracks on the same releases credit that same musician with "accordion", it seems that "box" is intended to refer to a specific instrument rather than it simply being a generic name for an accordion. -- TimVanHolder 20:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
        • Looks like this may also be a Sruti Box (also http://www.shrutibox.com/), and Indian harmonium-like instrument (see 8704118). -- TimVanHolder 21:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
        • Actually, a box is most often used as a generic term for double (or single (or, in rare instances, triple)) rowed button accordions (which are, AFAIK, always diatonic). -- FrederikSOlesen 17:41, 05 May 2008 (UTC)

Buk

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Korean drum played with one hand and one stick
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Bullroarer

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Byzaanchi

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Caixa

    • AKA:
    • Caixa
    • Description: a Brazilian snare drum used in samba music
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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      • Release 5:

Cavaquinho

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Caxixi

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: an African drum, seems to be played both as a shaker and a hand drum?
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Chalumeau

    • Comments:

Chanter

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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      • Release 5:

Chanzy

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Charango

    • AKA:
    • wiki:WikiPedia:Charango
    • Description: small stringed instrument of the lute family
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:

Ching

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Chinese finger cymbals
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
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Chitarra battente

    • Comments:

Cimbalom

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Clàrsach

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Specific type of Irish folk harp
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Used on several volumes of the Linn Records' The Complete Songs of Robert Burns collection
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
      • Release 4:
      • Release 5:
    • Comments:
      • (see 7509716, 7546873, 7593423, ...). -- TimVanHolder 20:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
        • A "clàrsach" and an Irish harp are the same, the only difference is whether the instrument or player or tune is from Ireland or Scotland. Which, IMHO, isn't enough to warrant its own entry. (And I play one, so I should be as eager as anyone to have as much granularity as possible in this area!) I'd support renaming "Irish harp" to "Irish harp / Clàrsach" though. -- FrederikSOlesen 18:40, 05 May 2008 (UTC)

Computer

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
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      • Release 5:

Anglo concertina

    • AKA: Anglo-German concertina
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: the Anglo or Anglo-German concertina is historically a hybrid between the English and German types of concertinas. The button layouts are generally the same as the original 20-button German concertinas designed by Uhlig in 1834.
    • Instrument Family: Free-reed aerophone
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:

English concertina

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a fully chromatic instrument having buttons in a rectangular arrangement of four staggered rows.
    • Instrument Family: Free-reed aerophone
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:

Cor Anglais

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Cuatro

Cuíca

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Brazilian friction drum used in samba music
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:

Cümbüş

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family:
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
      • Release 3:
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    • Comments:
      • I am not sure what the English word is, but WikiPedia also list it as Cümbüş and I never heard another saying for it. Many Turkish folk songs includes it. --syserror

Daegeum

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Dhol

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: an Indian and Pakistani barrel drum
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Doshpuluur

    • AKA: Toshpuluur
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a plucked, banjo-like, long-necked lute used in the Tuva region of Mongolia.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Double-reed Slide Music Stand

    • AKA:
    • Description: An oboe read crossed with a music stand into a funky slidebar instrument.
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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    • Comments:
      • Used by, who else, PDQ Bach. -- BrianSchweitzer 11:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Drone

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other? Winds?
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
      • Is this an actual instrument of its own, or just generic droning (which can be done on most melody instruments)? -- FrederikSOlesen 10:12, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
        • I'm not sure - Discogs gives no description for this one, I'll have to try to dig it out of their change notes if they mean as you describe, if they perhaps mean a tanpura, or if they mean something else. -- BrianSchweitzer 11:46, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Drum Programming

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
      • Release 2:
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
      • We have "Drum Machine" and "Programming". Perhaps "programmed" should be abstracted to become equal to "performed"? Ie., with its own instrument list? -- FrederikSOlesen 10:12, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Would seem to make sense, as well with regards to the "Computer" listing below - I can think of at least one case where "computer" would perhaps be both credited for (pre-)programming, as well as the composer then using the various programmed compositions as 'instruments' during a live performance. -- BrianSchweitzer 12:03, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
          • I was going to second this suggestion but we already have the '{additionally} programmed {instrument on}' AR ;-) -- Prodoc 21:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Dulcimer

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
      • We already have Appalachian dulcimer (plucked) and Hammered dulcimer (struck), as well as several children of the hammered dulcimer. Sure it isn't one of these? -- FrederikSOlesen 20:27, 06 May 2008 (UTC)

Dunduk

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Eagle Bone Whistle

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Sacred Native American instrument.
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:

Effects

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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E-Flat Bass Tuba

Ektare

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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Electric Acoustic Guitar

    • Comments:
      • I'm a bit surprised that this isn't here already, it's not exactly a rare instrument. I came across one release it's used in - but I have no doubt that it's out there on various other releases as well. -- Kilu
        • From what I can tell, it's just a regular (acoustic) guitar with pick-ups. Do you want "electric-acoustic" bouzoukis, banjos, harps, accordions, violins, guitar basses, double basses, ... etc. as well? -- -- FrederikSOlesen 10:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
          • I suppose you have a point there. I personally don't have an electric acoustic anything, so I don't know if the sound is any different from normal acoustic. I do think that it's sort of odd that it's specifically credited as such in the booklet though. Kilu
          • Perhaps an "electric" option which could then be applied to any instrument in the list? -- BrianSchweitzer 13:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Electronic Wind Instrument

    • Comments:
      • BrianSchweitzer
      • In the process of adding performance credits to my favorite groups' releases, I found that there's no currently no entry for EWIs. I have a set of 6 albums which feature the instrument (5 of them listed above) that I am ready to add credits to. Wikipedia suggests there are also a number of well-known (in their genre) jazz performers, as well as albums and soundtracks, that make use of the instrument. More information about the EWI can be found on its wikipedia page. -- KrytenAG 01:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Ticket for instrument creation

Electronics

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
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Erfu

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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F Bass Tuba

Feet and Clogs

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other?
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • I see that the list does already have "Handclaps", and surely feet are no less important musically than hands? I have many recordings with credits for human percussion. For example, from Rice, how should I enter Lucy Adams feet, clogs, singing? -- monxton 02:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Finger Snaps

    • AKA:
    • Description: this would seem to be like clapping, describing snapped fingers, not some actual instrument
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Flageolet

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Flugabone

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Fretless Guitar

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1:
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    • Comments:

Ganzá

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a Brazilian rattle
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Glass Bowl

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Goc

    • AKA:
    • Description: a serbian traditional drum.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Guimbri

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Greek lyra

    • AKA: Cretan lyra, Cretan lira or lyra.
    • Description: a pear-shaped, three-stringed bowed string instrument central to the traditional music of Crete.
    • lyra Wikipedia
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Greek lute

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Hi-hat

    • AKA: Hihat
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: two cymbals that are mounted on a stand one on top of the other and clashed together using a pedal on the stand.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Homus

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
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Igil

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Janggu

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a traditional Korean drum
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Jarana

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Mexican guitar variant
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Excitable Boy
      • Release 2:
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Jug

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Kabosy

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Kanjira

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a south Indian tambourine
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Kaval

    • AKA: Blul
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Chromatic end-blown flute
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
      • Chromatic end-blown flute. Should probably have "Blul" as an alias, because that's the specific instrument I encountered (see 7445525 and 7445529). -- TimVanHolder 20:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Khene

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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K'kwaengwari

    • AKA:
    • Description: appears to be a type of gong
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Kompang

    • AKA: Rebana
    • Description: type of Rebana, a small frame drum used in Islamic devotional music in traditional Malay culture. (Wikipedia
    • Instrument Family: Percussion, Frame Drum
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Louder than Light by Wicked Aura Batacada
      • Release 2:
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    • Comments:
      • Adding just Rebana may suffice; a Kompang is a smaller version but I believe the same.

Launeddas

    • AKA:
    • Launeddas
    • Description: a typical Sardinian woodwind instrument, consisting of three pipes
    • Instrument family: Winds
    • Appears on:
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Loops

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: 52 credits loops, drum loops, percussion loops on several songs
      • Release 2:
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Lur

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Lyricon

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Mandoguitar

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Marimbaphone

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Tuned Percussion
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Seeds
      • Release 2:
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    • Comments:
      • Used by Fats Sadi on Seeds, not currently credited -- Wizzcat 21:29, 09 August 2008 (UTC)

Marímbula

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: folk musical instrument of the Caribbean Islands (not to be confused with a marimba).
    • Instrument Family: Lamellophone
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • Different to African lamellophones used to produce complex polyphony and polyrhythms, the marímbula basically plays the role of a bass guitar. -- Fabe56

Mexican Harp / Arpa de Mariachi

Mizmar

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Morinhoor

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Mridangam

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a south Indian drum
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Ney

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • Yes we do - as "Nai". There's several spellings for this one (Nai/Ney/Nye/Nay) -- TimVanHolder

Nyabinghi Drums (Funde, Thunder, Repeater/Keteh)

    • AKA: Rastafarian/jamaican drums
    • Wikipedia and drums
    • Description: played at a groundation ceremony in rasta culture. Nyabinghi music is played in 4/4 time on three drums:
Thunder: It is a double-headed bass drum, played with a mallet. The strokes are an open tone on 1 and a dampened stroke on 3. Occasionally, the thunder player will syncopate the rhythm.
Funde: The funde is the middle drum. It maintains the dominant heartbeat rhythm as the funde player makes steady, dampened strokes on 1 and 3.
Repeater/Keteh: The repeater or keteh, is the smallest and highest pitched drum. The drummer tends to play around 2 and 4 , with a syncopated feel. It is seen as the carrier of spirit and fire of the music.
Maybe these are two specific, but noting here in case they are credited this way on other releases. These are roughly equivalent to other standard percussion instruments like "bass drum", congas, bongos etc.
    • Instrument Family: Drums / Nyabinghi drums (preferably with an instrument each for the three)
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • Yes we do - as "Nai". There's several spellings for this one (Nai/Ney/Nye/Nay) -- TimVanHolder


Outi

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Pandeiro

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a 'hand frame drum'
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Pandereta

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Wikipedia links it to 'tambourine', but it's an incorrect translation. The Pandereta is a Puerto Rican franc drum, which is in the same family, but not the same as a tambourine.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Pandero

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia (translated)
    • Description: Described in the liner as a "Spanish franc drum", looks like it's a relative of the tambourine.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Pedalboard

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
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Piccolo trumpet

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Brass
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • Mozart also wrote several works for trumpet quintet, which includes a piccolo trumpet. Again, to properly AR several CDs in the 170 CD set, I need this one too. -- BrianSchweitzer 06:21, 03 November 2007 (UTC)

Pipe

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Pixiephone

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Player Piano

    • Issue:
    • AKA: Reproducing Piano
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Player pianos play themselves, but esp. in the reproducing versions, rather than being programmed like midi tracks, they were actually played by someone, and the roll thus produced became the piano roll.
    • Instrument Family: Brass
    • Appears On:
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Pocket Trumpet

    • Issue: Ticket #3536
    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Brass
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • a compact size B♭ trumpet, easy to carry around. Though never was considered good enough to be in official use in orchestras, it was featured quite some times in small jazz bands. Don Cherry is Mr. Pocket Trumpet, and him alone has dozen of releases on which he uses it (also check most Ornette Coleman releases where he features) - revealing this somewhat neglected poor trumpet its true potential. All these are currently documented as simply trumpet. Note this is not the same as the Piccolo Trumpet that we now have. More about the thingie at wackypedia. -- dmppanda 05:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Post horn

    • Issue: #5281
    • AKA: coach horn, posthorn, post-horn
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: The post horn is a valveless cylindrical brass or copper instrument with cupped mouthpiece, used to signal the arrival or departure of a post rider or mail coach. It was used especially by postilions of the 18th and 19th centuries.
      Mozart, Mahler, and others incorporated the instrument into their orchestras for certain pieces. On such occasions, the orchestra's horn player usually plays the instrument. One example of post horn use in modern classical music is the famous off-stage solo in Mahler's Third Symphony. Due to the scarcity of this instrument, however, music written for it is usually played on a trumpet or flugelhorn.
    • Instrument Family: Brass
    • Appears On:


Pump organ

Ramana

    • AKA:
    • Ramana
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • A type of drum, not seeing much info on it. There is a picture of one at the linked site, however. -- BrianSchweitzer 03:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Rauschpfeife

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Reactable

    • AKA: Reactable Systems
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: electronic musical instrument with a tabletop
    • Instrument Family: Electronic instruments
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Voltaic
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Official website

Rebana

    • AKA:
    • Description: a small frame drum used in Islamic devotional music in traditional Malay culture. (Wikipedia
    • Instrument Family: Percussion, Frame Drum
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Louder than Light by Wicked Aura Batacada (credited as Kompang, smaller version)
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    • Comments:
      • Could be added with Kompang as a sub-instrument, but as Kompang is I believe just a smaller version adding Rebana may suffice.

Reco-reco

    • AKA:
    • Reco-reco
    • Description: a specific type of Brazilian Güiro
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Regal

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
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Repinique

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a 2-headed Brazilian drum
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Requinto Jarocho

    • AKA:
    • Requinto Jarocho
    • Description: Small guitar
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Excitable Boy
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Riqq

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: The Riqq is an Egyptian franc drum, also in the tambourine family.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • Another which Wikipedia incorrectly identifies, though their picture and the picture's ID is correct. It is not the same as a tambourine or shakers, however, and the most common form in English is 'Riqq', not 'Riq' or 'Rik'. -- BrianSchweitzer 03:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Rozhok

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Ruan

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Sarangi

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: bowed string instrument from India, Nepal and Pakistan.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Saxobone

    • AKA:
    • Description: A trombine modified to accept a saxophone mouthpiece. Used by jazz player Eddie Harris (inventor?) among others.
    • Instrument Family: Brass? Winds?
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Scratches

    • AKA: Scratching
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: technique used to produce distinctive sounds by moving a vinyl record back and forth on a turntable while manipulating the crossfader on a DJ mixer.
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:

Shanai

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Shenai

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Sintir (Arabic: سنتير‎)

    • AKA: Guembri (Arabic: الكمبري‎), Gimbri or Hejhouj.
    • Description: three stringed skin-covered bass plucked lute.
    • Wikipedia
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:

Slapstick

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a wooden whip - 'The other type also has two planks of woods, one longer than the other, with one handle, connected with a spring hinge so it can be played with just one hand, though it cannot produce sounds as loud as a whip requiring both hands.'
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Spinet

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Steel Drums

    • AKA: Steelpan, steeldrums, pans
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: drum made from a 55 gallon drum, used in a lot of carribean music
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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Stroh violin

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Alice
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    • Comments:
      • Listed several times in the booklet of the Tom Waits album Alice. See 7905421. -
      • Toni Marcus has a credit for "stroviola" on Into the Music

Strum Stick

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
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Suling

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Suona

    • AKA: Laba
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: A woodwind instrument used frequently in the folk music of northern China. With its loud and high-pitched sound, souna has, together with other instruments, been used to provide music of Chinese opera and for various occasions, such as wedding and funeral.
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Lingering
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Surbahar

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Swarmandel

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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SynthAxe

Talkbox

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Sub Focus
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Tamborim

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: A small, round Brazilian frame drum of Portuguese and African origin. The frame is 6" in diameter and may be made of metal, plastic or wood. The head is typically made of nylon and is normally very tightly tuned in order to ensure a high, sharp sound and a minimum of sustain. The drum is devoid of snares or jingles
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • What is this? -- FrederikSOlesen 10:12, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
          • As I said, this is simply using their list to compare against, but I would imagine is this instrument. That would seem to fit with Discogs' description: "A small, round Brazilian frame drum of Portuguese and African origin. The frame is 6" in diameter and may be made of metal, plastic or wood. The head is typically made of nylon and is normally very tightly tuned in order to ensure a high, sharp sound and a minimum of sustain. The drum is devoid of snares or jingles." -- BrianSchweitzer 11:46, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Tap dancing

    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. See discussion below.

Tapboard

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Tape

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Other
    • Appears On:
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Tar (drum)

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: A tar is a single-headed frame drum. The tar comes from North Africa and the Middle East.
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
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Tar (lute)

    • AKA: tār
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: The tar is a long-necked, waisted lute found in Azerbaijan, Iran, Armenia, Georgia, and other areas near the Caucasus region.
    • Instrument Family: Strings / Lute
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: Light by Matisyahu
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Taragot

  • A look around the web would suggest that “taragot” is the generic internationalized (i.e., English) spelling, but that might be biased by my searches. Some more links: Page dedicated to the taragot. Some more info.

Tárogató

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
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Temple Bells

    • AKA:
    • Temple Bells
    • Description: a Japanese wind chime
    • Instrument Family: Percussion?
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Theorbo

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: plucked string instrument
    • Appears On:
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Thon

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Described in the liner as 'Thai drums'. Wikipedia describes it as a "goblet-shaped drum, played with the hands".
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:

Tipple

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a stringed musical instrument that is smaller that a guitar and larger than a ukulele, having aspects of both.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Tom Tom

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: another of the drums in any common drum set
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
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Tonkori

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a plucked string instrument played by the Ainu people of Hokkaidō, northern Japan and Sakhalin. It is unfretted and has between three and five strings which are not stopped but instead played "open."
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Trautonium

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
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Tromboon

    • AKA: Babone
    • Wikipedia
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Brass
    • Appears On:
      • Release 1: PDQ Bach - The Seasonings
      • Release 2: PDQ Bach - Serenude (for devious instruments)
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Tüngür

    • AKA: tünggür, düngür, dünggü
    • Tüngür
    • Description: A Tuvan Shamen drum
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
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Valiha

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a bamboo tube zither from Madagascar. It is played by plucking the strings, which may be made of metal or (originally) the bamboo skin which is pried up in long strands and propped up by small bridges.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Veena

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: a plucked stringed instrument used in Carnatic music. There are several variations of the veena, which in its South Indian form is a member of the lute family.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
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Viol / treble viol / viola da gamba / bass viol / violone / vihuela / viola da mano / Spanish vihuela / Mexican vihuela

Viol - (copying this section out of my original listing of the Viol in revision 198):

  • According to Wikipedia, "viol" and "viola da gamba" are the same... ? -- FrederikSOlesen 08:45, 01 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia uses the terms somewhat confusingly, using the historical term and the modern term interchangably. "Viol" is generic, and one can (anachranistically) refer to the "Viola da gamba" family (as their linked to Viola da Gamba Society does) - the term once was used for all types, with octive ranges prefixed. So in the 1700's, one might have played a bass viola da gamba. In modern terminology, however, though the term can still be used generically for the family, "Viol" is the much more commonly used generic term, with the particular octive types titled as listed here ("bass viol", "treble viol", etc), with a reference to "so and so: viola da gamba" specifically being intended to mean what that same 1700's player would have called a tenor viola da gamba. When I layed out this instrument list, from Viol down to Mexican vihuela, I tried to lay it out as the tree would branch out under modern terminology. (While the "Viol" at top could be "Viola da Gamba", having it twice, once as the specific and once as the anachronicstic generic seems like it'd be much more confusing.) -- BrianSchweitzer 09:12, 01 May 2008 (UTC)

Baritone Viola

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Violino piccolo

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: A stringed instrument of the baroque period. Most examples are similar to a child's size violin in size, and are tuned a third or a fourth higher.
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:
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Weissenborn Guitar

    • AKA:
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: Specific type of lap steel guitar
    • Instrument Family: Strings
    • Appears On:

Whistling Water Jar

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
    • Appears On:
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Wind Chimes

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion?
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • We have "Chimes"... ? -- FrederikSOlesen 10:12, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
          • They list both "Chimes" and "Wind Chimes" as separate types; I'd imagine they're distinguishing between standard percussion chimes and real wind chimes as a subtype. -- BrianSchweitzer 11:46, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Wooden Bowl

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion
    • Appears On:
    • Comments:
      • Probably quite similar logic to the Wooden spoons below. I also have seen another release (A Canticle for Leibowitz) with a Pyrex bowl (ie, 'glass bowl') credit, in both cases used as a percussion instrument. -- BrianSchweitzer 03:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Wooden spoons

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Percussion?
    • Appears On:
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    • Comments:
      • Alexsander Hrenov is credited playing wooden spoons on Dark Ages. We do have spoons included in the instruments list but does the matterial of the instrument deserve to be included as separate entries? I don't know spoons as an instrument but if there's just a small selection of spoons in different materials availble we might as well include it. -- Prodoc 15:20, 08 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Well, wooden and metal (kitchen) spoons are by far the most common types of spoons, though bone/horn spoons are also out there. As a spoons player, I could probably give you a lengthier rant about the qualities of each type, but for the sake of this discussion, let me just say that there are different kinds of spoons, and the material does have an effect on the produced sound. :) -- FrederikSOlesen 00:03, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Wurlitzer electric piano

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Yang T'Chin

    • AKA:
    • Yang T'Chin
    • Description: seems to be some type of Tibetan/Indian instrument
    • Instrument Family: Strings
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    • Comments:
      • A Discogs instrument AR we don't yet list. -- BrianSchweitzer
        • used by This Mortal Coil on a few releases

Zhaleika

    • AKA:
    • Description:
    • Instrument Family: Winds
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Zheng

    • AKA: Guzheng, Gu-Zheng, Juzheng, Ju-Zheng
    • Wikipedia
    • Description: A traditional Chinese string instrument. With 21 strings and a large resonant cavity, the player can easily invoke sounds that represent various natural scenaries.
    • Instrument Family: Strings / Zither
    • Appears On:
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Discussion

With regards to "generic" stuff, I just noticed there's no way for ARs that use the tree, like "arranged", to identify simply "arranged orchestral parts" or "arranged vocals", or similar arrangement roles. They're not instruments, but if we're going to reuse the tree for those types of ARs as well, perhaps those types of "super-generics" also ought to have a place in the revised tree? -- BrianSchweitzer 06:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

We have Greek baglama and Turkish baglama, but no generic "baglama" for where the specific baglama type is unspecified. -- BrianSchweitzer 02:52, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Is this a point for discussion or a suggestion to have a generic "baglama" added to this list? If it's the former, what exactly do you want to discuss? If it's the latter, go and add it to the list of suggestions above! -- FrederikSOlesen 10:22, 09 March 2008 (UTC)
    • For all three, I put them under discussion, as they don't seem to really be "instruments" to be added, more a general observation - I caught three (four if you include 'electronic wind instruments'), but there's perhaps others, where we have specific types, but no abstracted type. It'd perhaps be useful to take a look through the list for any other such instances I've missed, where we jump right to the specific types, without also providing the unspecified generic as an option, to avoid people being forced into 'guessed credits'. -- BrianSchweitzer 11:46, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Along the same lines as the baglama, we have three dulcimers scattered in the list (Appalachian, Hammered, and Đàn tam thập lục), but no generic "dulcimer" listing. -- BrianSchweitzer 03:14, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Is this a point for discussion or a suggestion to have a generic "dulcimer" added to this list? If it's the former, precisely what do you want to discuss? If it's the latter, go and add it to the list of suggestions above! -- FrederikSOlesen 10:22, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

"Mbira (Mbira, (sansa, kalimba, luvale, karimba, marimbula, matape)) (7)" - I would suggest that this one is named such that it's unclear; the kalimba can be either the modern thumb piano, or the entire family, but the mbira is specifically the traditional thumb piano used within Zimbabwe. "Kalimba (Mbira, (sansa, kalimba, luvale, karimba, marimbula, matape)) (7)" would make much more sense. -- BrianSchweitzer 02:52, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

While we have lots of types of pipe, we have no generic "pipe". -- BrianSchweitzer 02:52, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Is this a point for discussion or a suggestion to have a generic "pipe" added to this list? If it's the former, could you elaborate more on what it is you want to discuss? If it's the latter, go and add it to the list of suggestions above! -- FrederikSOlesen 10:22, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Would be nice if the entry for "Jew's Harp" was changed into "Jew's Harp / Trump". Unless you know the instrument, it's easy to assume that "trump" is a kind of trumpet. -- TimVanHolder 21:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

  • According to Wikipedia, "trump" can mean either a Jew's harp or a trumpet (or a blow in a trumpet). -- FrederikSOlesen 08:26, 01 May 2008 (UTC)

Musicbox

  • Music(al) box - only have one case so far: Steve Thorne's EMO1 - so perhaps we should wait for more occurrences. This is probably something for the "Other instruments" section. -- Shepard 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't know about Music Boxes really, to me it seems like less of an instrument and more like "instrument, composition (melody), medium (e.g. vinyl) and medium-player all wrapped up in one thing". I am not sure here to be honest. ~mo

Synths

Why shouldn't particular types of synth be added? They're frequently listed on CDs and some people care what type of synth was played. Why not make them subtypes of 'Synthesizer'. PaulSharpe

  • Because it's impossible to keep up with them all, especially considering the protracted process by which new instruments need to go through before they are added. I've said time and time again that this is all NUTS - what we need are a few (50 tops) instrument/role macro-categories, and then a free text field by which users can input qualifiers. Eg: "Synthesizer [[[Mini Moog|MiniMoog]]]". --Gecks
    • Free text fields are not possible in the current AdvancedRelationships implementation. (And also I think a mixture of a list and free text is counter productive, but well..) You guys are just too impatient. :) Let mo finish his job of restructuring the tree and after that he will create a wiki page to make the process of adding instruments much faster. Noone will die inbetween. And it will prevent total chaos to do it structured and in this order. --Shepard

The number of different synths produced numbers in the several hundreds. Roland alone has made well over 100 different synths and tone generators. Do you want to start listing all of those? That's a slipperly slope to be on. Besides, they are just models and brands. In the end the artist is still playing a synthesizer. If we start listing those then to be consistent we'd have to list the brand and model of all of the other instruments. Does it matter that Jaco Pastorius played a Fender Precision Bass on most of his albums or can we be content to know that he played electric bass guitar? Likewise, does it really matter that Lyle Mays played a Korg Triton and a Steinway Grand on the last Pat Metheny album or is knowing that he played synthesizer and piano enough? MattPerry

Dancing

  • Dancing - Occasionally, I stumble upon releases and tracks which have someone credited as "dancer" or with "dancing"
    • Stepdancing - I also see step dancing every now and then (actually, probably more often than simply dancing). --FrederikSOlesen 2007-04-17T07:52:33CEST (I will provide links to releases with these credits as soon as I get around making that WikiPage I talked about yesterday in IRC.)
    • maybe Tapdancing, which is apparently a subtype of stepdancing - on Who Used to Dance (actually represented as "percussion instruments performed by Savion Glover"), and probably a lot more releases (Musicals' stuff).
  • I'm not really sure there is a point in crediting things that don't have a relation with the recorded sound (eg: "My mother made the cookies"), and possibly we may define this "instrument" only when it actually has a "part"? -- dmppanda 09:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Well, all the dancing credits I thought of in my above proposal actually have a "part" in the sound picture. Step dance in particular is used in "Celtic" music for percussion, in line with bodhrán, bones, and spoons. -- FrederikSOlesen 13:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
      • krazykiwi says there's a band called 'Tilly and the Wall' who make a feature out of having a tap dancer instead of a drummer (both live and on recordings). -- mikemorr

Mo, no interest in H'arpeggione, Hardanger Fiddle, Spinet, Rebec, Lira da braccio, Viol, treble viol, viola da gamba, bass viol, violone, vihuela, viola da mano, Mexican vihuela, xiao, yali tambur, saz, tar, setar, kamenchech, fasil kemenche, santur, sarangi, santoor, rubab, komuz, dotar, pipa, er-hu, matouqin, gu zeng, gu qin, zhong ruan, charango, ronroco, waylaycho, tiple, requinto, sonqo, patasi charango, South American mandolin, quatro, tambura, instrumental tambura, vocal tambura, valiha, kalimba, or Vocal Role: "Percussion"? (All lost in the revert)... Foolip's working on Chinese releases (have we ever before had someone working on them to need Chinese instruments?) and I'm working on a 170 CD set of classical on period instruments. Even if there's not yet 5 releases listed in here to justify adding each of these yet, shouldn't they still be listed? (For vocal percussion, if anyone can edit that table, I can provide links to at least 30 releases in the db for which it would be needed) -- BrianSchweitzer 15:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

  • I'm not very familiar with the instruments of Chinese classical music, but there are annotations on and 三笑 where a few instruments are listed. -- foolip 03:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC) Several of the instruments you list, Brian, are already in the tree – please check AdvancedInstrumentTree before requesting instruments for addition! Also, vocal stuff, like "Vocal role: percussion", doesn't belong here at all, but rather in the AdvancedVocalTree. -- FrederikSOlesen 14:10, 02 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Freso, if ou look at the revision that was reverted out there, at the time those were not. On the specific vocal percussion role, I even at the time specifically made mention of the fact that this wasn't perhaps the right place for it - but also mentioned that there is no page for that tree, nor did it seem to make sense to make an entirely new VocalAdditionDiscussion page for such a small tree with so few conceivable potential additions. -- BrianSchweitzer 16:56, 06 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I know for a fact that "hardangerfele" has been in the tree for as long as I've been around MB, so unless you made the list before Summer 2006... no. AdvancedVocalTree has also been around for a while - but then, I don't really get where you're going with that bit of your comment. Sorry. -- FrederikSOlesen 17:58, 06 May 2008 (UTC)

Singular or Plural (parent) instruments

Parent instruments are named with inconsistent singular and plural form at the moment (e.g. 'Horn', 'Valved brass instruments', 'Flute' and 'Drums'). Some of the parent intruments are instruments of them selfves (e.g. 'Horn'), some are just a group indication (e.g. 'Valved brass instruments'). Both types can, and should be allowed to, be used in AR's depending on how someone is credited. I think this should be done in a more consitent manner. Away From Here is one example where one is credited arranging 'Horns' instead of just 'Horn'. There is, however, no plural form of 'Horn' available while the group 'Violins' does have 'Violin' in singular form included.

In the most accurate situation we should do the same for every group indication as we do for 'Violins' and 'Violin' thus e.g. changing 'Horn' to 'Horns' and adding 'Horn' as a sub instrument. This might, however, result in a drastic increase of the instrument list (not that it isn't already way too big but stil ;-)). Another option would be to change at least all of the parent intruments to use the 'Horn(s)' form and thus removing the singular forms like 'Violin' from the list. The downside would be that the AR's won't be as accurate as can be. Of course, we could simply make everything singular or plural but somehow this doesn't really appeal to me ;-) -- Prodoc 14:43, 08 March 2008 (UTC)

Failed, and why

  • Guitar synthesizer This shouldn't be added either. Just because you added a MIDI pickup to your guitar it doesn't change the fact that you're still playing a guitar.
I dispute this simplistic rejection, personally, and think it should be revisited. There are already many "specialized" versions of instruments listed on the current instrument tree, so this as a specialized electric guitar makes sense to me. There are also specialised Guitar Synth players; and all-in-one guitars that can be purchased. From Wikipedia "While the term "MIDI guitar" is often used as a synonym for the field of guitar/synthesis or for a guitar/synthesizer, MIDI is not always used. While most synthesizers use a keyboard interface to allow the performer to play the instrument, because synthesizers generate sounds electronically, a range of input devices can actuate them.[1] A guitar/synthesizer provides an interface which is familiar to a guitarist, allowing the guitarist to play synthesized sounds through the guitar. This diminishes the need for the guitarist to learn to play a keyboard, and allows for musical effects which are natural for a guitar but more difficult or impossible to produce using a keyboard." The fact that you can't achieve the same sound from a traditional synth keyboard or a regular electric guitar makes this distinct from both a "synth" and a "guitar". IMO, an instrument credit should represent both the input mechanism AND the sound that is produced. I mean, we even have both lap steel guitar and electric guitar... Neither "electric guitar" nor "synthesizier" accurately represent the play style and sound here. --Voiceinsideyou 06:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It's already in the list - look under "mbira". -- BrianSchweitzer 12:27, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Recently Added

  • Haha! You're welcome. :) It was interesting to partake in how to best approach that problem. -- FrederikSOlesen 05:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Violone
  • Kantele
    • Adding my note here, i think that a generic "Kantele" entry is best. *I* don't know enough about it to even being creating a tree.
  • And we have SubOptimalCredits to see whether there's a need for more specific kantele entries (and which) as well. (If people will use it as intended, that is.) -- FrederikSOlesen 05:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Tangent Piano In the harpsichord/clavichord family, dates from around the same time as the fortepiano. Mozart specifically wrote K. 300g and K. 315g for the Tangent Piano. I need this one for tracks 19 and 21 of disc 9 of volume 6 of the Brilliant Classics complete Mozart set. -- BrianSchweitzer 19:42, 03 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Scottish Smallpipes: Belongs alongside the other specialized bagpipes already in the list. See 7509789] -- TimVanHolder 20:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Would you think we should make a separation beneath "Bagpipe" for "bellow-blowns" and "mouth-blowns" or just lump all the bagpipes together under "Bagpipe"? (I'm going to add Northumberland pipes within not too long, and thus all the specific types of bagpipes will be bellow blown! Woohoo!) -- FrederikSOlesen 17:09, 05 May 2008 (UTC) Added to the list. -- FrederikSOlesen 21:28, 05 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Where would you place this in the tree? As a child of "Double reed" or "Bagpipe"? (They're amazingly fun to play around with, btw. :p) -- FrederikSOlesen 17:09, 05 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Added to the list under "Bagpipe". -- FrederikSOlesen 21:50, 05 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Melodeon
  • Added a while ago, by renaming "Diatonic accordion" to "Diatonic accordion / Melodeon". -- FrederikSOlesen 19:34, 06 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Bass Drum (AKA: Kick Drum)
  • Fretless Bass
  • Tenor Guitar
  • Bombarde
  • Bayan
  • Chromatic Button Accordion

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