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=Relationship Type "Narrator"= |
=Relationship Type "Narrator"= |
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'''Status:''' [[Image:Alert.png]] ''This [[Proposed Advanced Relationship Type|ProposedAdvancedRelationshipType]] and [[Open Style Issue|OpenStyleIssue]] |
'''Status:''' [[Image:Alert.png]] ''This is a [[Proposed Advanced Relationship Type|ProposedAdvancedRelationshipType]] and [[Open Style Issue|OpenStyleIssue]] and hasn't been implemented, yet! It is part of [[Performance Restructuring Proposal|PerformanceRestructuringProposal]].'' |
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==Description== |
==Description== |
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This describes speech done on whole albums or just tracks that is done by a narrator. A narrator tells stories but normally does not speak spoken parts. Typically this the case for fairytales and other children's stories. |
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This one could be useful for audiobooks, spoken children's stories and classical releases. |
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This [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]] is part of the [[Performance Relationship Class|PerformanceRelationshipClass]]. |
This [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]] is part of the [[Performance Relationship Class|PerformanceRelationshipClass]]. It is a special case of [[Speaker Relationship Type|SpeakerRelationshipType]]. |
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==Relationship Attributes== |
==Relationship Attributes== |
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==="additional"=== |
==="additional" and "guest"=== |
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There is no guideline yet how the additional flag might be used for "narrated" relationships. ([[Additional Relationship Attribute|AdditionalRelationshipAttribute]]) |
There is no guideline yet how the additional and the guest flag might be used for "narrated" relationships. ([[Additional Relationship Attribute|AdditionalRelationshipAttribute]] and [[Guest Relationship Attribute|GuestRelationshipAttribute]]) |
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==Examples== |
==Examples== |
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[http://www.musicbrainz.org/artist/2e6ca8b5-ed18-47c2-baa5-e9ea910dea22.html Dudley Moore] narrated [http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=175913 Wish Upon a Star: All-Time Children's Favorites] |
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* [http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=120248 Peter and the Wolf] |
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* [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/569c0d90-28dd-413b-83e4-aaa7c27e667b.html J.K. Rowling] |
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[http://musicbrainz.org/artist/7944ed53-2a58-4035-9b93-140a71e41c34.html Sting] narrated [http://musicbrainz.org/album/31d45f68-fca8-4c62-bee3-1c54ac3aa117.html Peter and the Wolf] |
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==Proposed Definition== |
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Live albums often have introductions spoken by someone on the stage or other spoken parts. Example: [http://musicbrainz.org/album/1a5d6c1d-cc86-40ac-98a1-f836fe8f2116.html Once in Agony]. Should this relationship also be used for this? --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Maybe we can also add [[Introduction Relationship Type|IntroductionRelationshipType]]? To answer your question: it feels a bit weird to call what you are describing "narrating", but I'd have no problem with people using the NarratorRelationshipType... (if you don't think the terminology is a bit awkward) --[[User:azertus|azertus]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Naah, [[Introduction Relationship Type|IntroductionRelationshipType]] would be a bit breaking a fly on the wheel. I'm just thinking if it would be better to have a more generic relationship type for this like "artist X spoke album/track Y". And also I see parallels to vocal performances so perhaps this could be all put in one class. --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]] |
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</ul>Wouldn't it be enough to change it to "speaker"? That would fit for any case, when an "artist is speaker on track/album"? --[[User:Fuchs|Fuchs]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I see what you mean, but I feel narrating is a specific enough case to be a a type on its own. I '''propose''' the following: we add [[Speaker Relationship Type|SpeakerRelationshipType]], which can be used to ARify introductions, dialogues, etcetera. NarratorRelationshipType is then only to be used in the specific cases outlined on this page. --[[User:azertus|azertus]] |
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This is how it would be implemented for artist--track: |
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From an OO point of view, might it be something like "track spoken by ..." then the attribute "as introduction | as narration | as [[Director Commentary|DirectorCommentary]]..." (Also many [[Audio Books|AudioBooks]] are acted out by a number of characters, not just a narrator: "as actor" or "as character N") --[[Chuck__Carmody]] |
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Dudes forget this introduction thing! It was just an example for spoken parts on live albums or for spoken parts in general. I see no way why we should have a special handling for "introduction". And also I don't think attributes would do it as "artist spoke album/track" and "artist narrated album/track" are totally different link phrases. The idea of different speaking roles in a track (similar to guest performances) might be nice but we should not forget that this site is mostly about music and not about theater plays or something so we should not stretch this too much :) --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]] |
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<pre> narrator (0) |
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* forward: {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated |
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* reverse: was {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated by |
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* description: Indicates an artist narrating something on this work. |
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* attributes: additional=0-1 guest=0-1 |
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And for album--artist: |
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<pre> narrator (0) |
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* forward: was {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated by |
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* reverse: {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated |
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* description: Indicates an artist narrating something on this work. |
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* attributes: additional=0-1 guest=0-1 |
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[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:Advanced Relationships]] [[Category:Relationship Type]] [[Category:Proposed Advanced Relationship Type]] [[Category:Open Style Issue]] |
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Documentation]] [[Category:Advanced Relationships]] [[Category:Relationship Type]] [[Category:Proposed Advanced Relationship Type]] [[Category:Open Style Issue]] |
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Revision as of 00:12, 8 March 2006
Relationship Type "Narrator"
Status: 
This is a ProposedAdvancedRelationshipType and OpenStyleIssue and hasn't been implemented, yet! It is part of PerformanceRestructuringProposal.
Link Phrases
- artist narrated album or track
- album or track was narrated by artist
Description
This describes speech done on whole albums or just tracks that is done by a narrator. A narrator tells stories but normally does not speak spoken parts. Typically this the case for fairytales and other children's stories.
This AdvancedRelationshipType is part of the PerformanceRelationshipClass. It is a special case of SpeakerRelationshipType.
Relationship Attributes
"additional" and "guest"
There is no guideline yet how the additional and the guest flag might be used for "narrated" relationships. (AdditionalRelationshipAttribute and GuestRelationshipAttribute)
Examples
Dudley Moore narrated Wish Upon a Star: All-Time Children's Favorites
Sting narrated Peter and the Wolf
Proposed Definition
This is how it would be implemented for artist--track:
narrator (0)
* forward: {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated
* reverse: was {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated by
* description: Indicates an artist narrating something on this work.
* attributes: additional=0-1 guest=0-1
And for album--artist:
narrator (0)
* forward: was {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated by
* reverse: {additional:additionally} {guest} narrated
* description: Indicates an artist narrating something on this work.
* attributes: additional=0-1 guest=0-1
