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: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:: That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:: That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:: For some reason I didn't go over that option in my head -- perhaps there was a reason for this that I've forgotten, but it seems to me that you're right and this should be Recording-Work, differentiating it from Compilation isamuch as Compilation is Recording-Recording. --[[User:Ianmcorvidae|Ianmcorvidae]] 18:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


===Track-URL===
===Track-URL===

Revision as of 18:08, 26 August 2010

Primer

This page describes the automatic conversions that will take place for ARs on update to NGS. This only applies to these updates – some of these may also end up having other acceptable entity pairings for new relationships created after NGS; that's not to be covered here. The last section is an initial list of Work-Work ARs to be created, some of them to replace/correct ARs in the preceding lists.

The goal at this time is to resolve any outstanding issues that remain.

Legend

To Recording, decided in IRC Meeting To Work, decided in IRC Meeting
Both, decided in IRC Meeting Not discussed in IRC meeting

Old ARs

Artist-Track

AR Type     Now         NGS         Comment    
Arranger Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion.
Art Direction Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Audio Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Booker Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Chorus Master Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Compiler Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording see discussion in Compilation Relationship Type, below
Composer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work
Conductor Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Creative Direction Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Design and Illustration Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Editor Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Graphic Design Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Instrumentator Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work
Legal Representation Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording Could also be Artist-Work, but for conversion purposes we'll keep it on this until NGS.
Librettist Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work
Liner Notes Author Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Live Sound Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Lyricist Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work
Mastering Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type Artist-Track Both
Mix Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Mix-DJ Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Orchestra Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Orchestrator Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Work Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion.
Performer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Photography Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Producer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Programming Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Publisher Relationship Type Artist-Track Both
Recording Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Remixer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Samples Artist Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Sound Engineer Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording
Travel Agent Relationship Type Artist-Track Artist-Recording

Release-Track

AR Type     Now         NGS         Comment    
Samples Relationship Type Release-Track Release-Recording Refers to actual audio data.

Label-Track

AR Type     Now         NGS         Comment    
Publisher Relationship Type Label-Track Both

Track-Track

Note: Track-Track ARs might become either Recording-Recording, or Recording-Work, or Work-Work (and maybe also Work-Recording).

AR Type     Now         NGS         Comment    
Compilation Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording Designates that a single entity (i.e. not more than one recording/work) draws from multiple entities. Thus: a specific Recording from several Recordings; it won't be Works in this case, because that would be a Medley (at least for conversion to NGS). In converting data, will be converted to a Recording-Recording AR, since Work-Work is more likely to be Medley.
Cover Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
DJ Mix Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
Earliest Release Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording Deprecated AR Type: such recordings should be merged (an automatic merge is attempted during NGS conversion)
Karaoke Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
Mash-up Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
Medley Relationship Type Track-Track Work-Work See discussion below
Other Version Relationship Type Track-Track Work-Work Should now just mean "same Work"; should be merged - deprecated. Many of these situations will need to make new Work-Work ARs (see section below)

Note: merge should be manual, not automatic during NGS conversion because this AR type is a bit fuzzy.

Remaster Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
Remix Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording
Samples Relationship Type Track-Track Recording-Recording Sampling refers to actual audio data, hence recording for the source. The choice of specific recording to sample from wouldn't change the work (i.e. two Recordings which each sample a different Recording could still be the same Work; hence Recording for the sampling entity.

Medley Relationship Type Discussion

Medley requires a new performance, according to Mix Terminology, so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level.

Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. Murdos 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
For some reason I didn't go over that option in my head -- perhaps there was a reason for this that I've forgotten, but it seems to me that you're right and this should be Recording-Work, differentiating it from Compilation isamuch as Compilation is Recording-Recording. --Ianmcorvidae 18:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Track-URL

AR Type     Now         NGS         Comment    
Art Direction Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Booker Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Creative Commons Licensed Download Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Creative Direction Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Design and Illustration Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Free Download Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Graphic Design Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Has Lyrics At Relationship Type Track-URL Work-URL
Has Score At Relationship Type Track-URL Work-URL
IBDb Relationship Type Track-URL Work-URL
IOBDb Relationship Type Track-URL Work-URL Where is this db? There. But this AR type is not used by any ARs (i.e. has no instance). Murdos 23:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Legal Representation Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL As with other legal representation AR, could also be to Works, but we'll convert to Recording for now
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type Track-URL Both
Paid Download Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Photography Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Publisher Relationship Type Track-URL Both
Recording Studio Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL
Samples From Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL Samples refer to actual audio data.
Travel Agent Relationship Type Track-URL Recording-URL

New Work-Work ARs to Create

AR Type     Comment    
Re-arranged version For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this

The other example I thought of in the chat of other version being used where the works wouldn't be merged was translated versions, e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/d96b100b-86bd-4e6c-a950-5283be973d7e/relationships and http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/028d72eb-3c52-4683-a5c6-932663245c58/relationships --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)