History:Release Type Restructuring Proposal: Difference between revisions

From MusicBrainz Wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
(i am the godamn chief of this, i'vn't awoled! just damn buzy. vultures! (Imported from MoinMoin))
 
m (CallerNo6 moved page Proposal:Release Type Restructuring Proposal to History:Release Type Restructuring Proposal: https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/3675767/)
 
(33 intermediate revisions by 4 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Template:proposal
[[Image:Attention.png]] '''Status:''' one of the very interesting proposals lying around. Probably (at least) parts of it may be implemented for a relatively low development cost ([[Release Format|ReleaseFormat]] enhancements?). While this proposal is not "exactly" stalled (it has been regularly worked on during the past years), for now it lacks promotion efforts and needs refreshed edits to be made fruitful. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 15:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC) -- [[User:mo|mo]] 22:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
|proposal=49
|discussion=
|champion=none, was [[BrianFreud]] & mo (& others)
|rfc=
|rfv=
|status=Abandoned
|ar=
|style=
|trac=1372
}}
Status: This proposal is currently under development. At the moment, it may be a mess, as the layout is being restructured and updated.


==Proposal==


== Release Status ==
''update'' new fixings.
Any Release Status proposals which were formerly located here have been relocated to [[User:BrianSchweitzer/Release Status Proposals|Release Status Proposals]], as modifications to the Release Status are outside of the scope of this proposal.
== Release Format ==
Any Release Format proposals which were formerly located here have been relocated to [[User:BrianSchweitzer/Release Format Proposal|Release Format Proposal]], as modifications to the Release Format are outside of the scope of this proposal.


I have been re-thinking this Release-release thing over again. I have tried to include what people have said on irc and in the [[Talk:Release Type Restructuring|ReleaseTypeRestructuringDiscussion]] page, Here is my redraft proposal updated after the new 1-4-2007 release.


First a small list with new names, all the new options are in ''italic'', (the option 'I don't know' is implied throughout). After this list follows a list of explanations of their meanings.


----
===Physical Media===
Everything below is potentially a mess.
----



Parts of this is now official and is defined by [[Release Format|ReleaseFormat]].
* ''CD''
** ''8cm''
** ''12cm''


* ''DVD''
** ''DVD-A''


* ''SACD''
* ''MiniDisc''
* ''Vinyl''
** ''7"''
** ''10"''
** ''12"''
** ''other''


* ''Cassette''
* ''8-track''
* ''Digital Media (web releases / stand alone mp3/ogg etc)''
* ''Other''


===Release Status===


Official | ''Commercial'' | Bootleg | Promotional


===Main Types===
===Main Types===

* Album (LP)
* Album (LP)
* EP
* EP
* Single
* Single
** ''Maxi-CD''
** ''Maxi-CD''

* ''Other''
* ''Other''

...
...
* ''Split''
* ''Split''
* Compilation
* Compilation
** ''Highlights''
** ''Highlights''

* Remix
* Remix
* ''Remaster''
* ''Remaster''
Line 58: Line 49:
** ''audiofile disc''
** ''audiofile disc''
** ''multimedia 2 session disc''
** ''multimedia 2 session disc''

* Other
* Other
* ''Demo''
* ''Demo''
Line 66: Line 56:
** Audiobook
** Audiobook
** ''Radio play''
** ''Radio play''
** ''other narrative''
** ''other narrative''


==Description==
==Description==


===Physical Media===

pretty much says itself, what is the thing you have in your hand? These types have now been partially implemented with the 1.4.2007 server release as part of the [[Label Support|LabelSupport]] (see [[Release Format|ReleaseFormat]]) these are also connected with releasetype+releasedate tables, which is what I said would have to happen from the get go, here we go:

Each releasedate and place can have one Physical Media accociated, as well as a label, #cat and optional barcode. This outline some more detailed ''sub''types that may be added. <dl><dt>CD
<dd>just a regular audio CD, also known as CD-A.
<dt>DVD
<dd>

we are going to get pure musical DVD's eventually. There are a few thousand according to wikipedia, the same is true for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio DVD-A].
<dt>SACD
<dd>separated from DVD because it is a different coding process entirely, hybrid SACD discs that have the capability of being played on regular CD-player should go under this option as well.
<dt>MiniDisc
<dd>There are not many new releases but a lot of older ones.
<dt>Vinyl
<dd>

finally we have Vinyls! subgroups of 7", 10" & 12" and 'other' for that one nth" type laying in [[User:PRAEst76|PRAEst76]]'s attic ;)
<dt>Cassette
<dd>just your average tape
<dt>8-track
<dd>for really old wonky releases on 8-track tape
<dt>Digital Media
<dd>(webalbums / stand alone mp3/ogg etc)
<dt>Other
<dd>random obscure types!
</dl>

===Release Status===

the status of the release. These should not be multiple choice as one release conglomeration should only be able to be one of these options at a time. (while per days date, release events and labels are separated from release status.) <dl><dt>Official
<dd>exactly like it is today, sanctioned by *both* the artist and the record-company (if applicable). These releases are most likely listed on the artists' own website and most fansites.
<dt>Bootleg
<dd>same as today. albums not sanctioned by the record company (owner of the licence/copyright) but may or may not be sanctioned by the artist. These albums might be listed on official websites (rare), but most good fansites will have a bootleg section.
<dt>Commercial
<dd>this a new, confusing type, this is for releases that may be sanctioned by the record-company (or resold/legally pirated by other companies) but *not* necessarily by the artist.
* Wizzcat suggests '''retail''' as a name instead. please discuss.

''Commercial not sanctioned by the artist (but the licence may be i norder / not illigal in italy/etc)''
<dt>Promotional
<dd>same as today, for releases that are given away (usually free) by sweepstakes. magazines, competitions etc.
</dl>


===Main Types===
===Main Types===

These are mostly multiple choice per release conglomeration. The exceptions are album, single and EP, as (I think) they are exclusive of each other. (these are per day's date separate from release events and labels)
These are mostly multiple choice per release conglomeration. The exceptions are album, single and EP, as (I think) they are exclusive of each other. (these are per day's date separate from release events and labels)
('''One Choice''')

;Album
('''One Choice''') <dl><dt>Album
<dd>same as today, first time releases.
:same as today, first time releases.
<dt>EP
;EP
<dd>same as today, for releases clearly marked 'EP'
:same as today, for releases clearly marked 'EP'
<dt>Single
;Single
<dd>same as today, single releases <dl><dt>Maxi-Single
:same as today, single releases
;Maxi-Single
<dd>a suboption for single, basically what EP was to vinyl this is to CD's today? the rules are not as strict though, any Maxi-Single is as explicitly a single, if a release is rather more classified as EP, use that instead.
:a suboption for single, basically what EP was to vinyl this is to CD's today? the rules are not as strict though, any Maxi-Single is as explicitly a single, if a release is rather more classified as EP, use that instead.
</dl>
<dt>Other
;Other
<dd>for releases that do not fit in any other categories, Album, EP or Single.
:for releases that do not fit in any other categories, Album, EP or Single.
('''Multiple Choice''')
</dl>
;Compilation

:for compilations, same as today: releases that are selections of tracks from one ore more artists that has been released before.
('''Multiple Choice''') <dl><dt>Compilation
;Split
<dd>for compilations, same as today: releases that are selections of tracks from one ore more artists that has been released before.
:
<dt>Split
<dd>

releases that are re-releases of 2 or more releases on one disc (f.ex [http://musicbrainz.org/album/d44f592c-db8b-47b4-89bb-a70baeac39cc.html No Heavy Petting / Lights Out]) or releases where two or more artists share a disc (f.ex [http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=354065 Light the Fuse and Run/Hot Cross Split ]). both are typically called a "split release".
releases that are re-releases of 2 or more releases on one disc (f.ex [http://musicbrainz.org/album/d44f592c-db8b-47b4-89bb-a70baeac39cc.html No Heavy Petting / Lights Out]) or releases where two or more artists share a disc (f.ex [http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=354065 Light the Fuse and Run/Hot Cross Split ]). both are typically called a "split release".
<dt>Remix
;Remix
<dd>same as today, remixes. although they should probably be stored with albums on the 'albums' page in APR?
:same as today, remixes. although they should probably be stored with albums on the 'albums' page in APR?
<dt>Remaster
;Remaster
:
<dd>

while there is an AR for this, sometimes a release is released as being ''specifically'' a "Remaster" rather than a "remastered album", probably some [album] [remaster] combination for this. Other times a release is a collection of "remastered tracks found on several albums" (making them in essence compilations) (see "Remasters" [http://musicbrainz.org/release/8dbf8496-060c-461a-82c5-1296efe3ee17.html 1] & [http://musicbrainz.org/release/edfdc9f8-dc88-4b88-9954-164e154ed3c7.html 2] by Led Zep for an example) [compilation] [remaster] etc.
while there is an AR for this, sometimes a release is released as being ''specifically'' a "Remaster" rather than a "remastered album", probably some [album] [remaster] combination for this. Other times a release is a collection of "remastered tracks found on several albums" (making them in essence compilations) (see "Remasters" [http://musicbrainz.org/release/8dbf8496-060c-461a-82c5-1296efe3ee17.html 1] & [http://musicbrainz.org/release/edfdc9f8-dc88-4b88-9954-164e154ed3c7.html 2] by Led Zep for an example) [compilation] [remaster] etc.
<dt>Live
;Live
<dd>same as today, a live release. The difference however is that one can now chose [compilation] [live] for releases that aren't of a single live 'session', finally solving this issue.
:same as today, a live release. The difference however is that one can now chose [compilation] [live] for releases that aren't of a single live 'session', finally solving this issue.
<dt>Soundtrack
;Soundtrack
<dd>same as today, with the addition that one can chose [compilation] [soundtrack] for comps of soundtracks, etc.
:same as today, with the addition that one can chose [compilation] [soundtrack] for comps of soundtracks, etc.
<dt>Composer
;Composer
:
<dd>
this is a new type for releases that utilise the [[Classical Style Guide|ClassicalStyleGuide]] (where the artist in the !track/album is the ''composer'' of the work, not the ''performer''). Here [album] [composer] is for your typical "full works" and [compilation] [composer] for releases with several works by the one or more composers on the same release.

;Highlights
this is a new type for releases that utilise the [[Classical Style Guide|ClassicalStyleGuide]] (where the artist in the !track/album is the ''composer'' of the work, not the ''performer''). Here [album] [composer] is for your typical "full works" and [compilation] [composer] for releases with several works by the one or more composers on the same release. <dl><dt>Highlights
<dd>after discussion with Clutcher I agree. this should be (at least) a subtype in its own right. please use with Composer style or Soundtrack
:after discussion with Clutcher I agree. this should be (at least) a subtype in its own right. please use with Composer style or Soundtrack
;Data
</dl>
:this is for releases that are either
<dt>Data
<dd>this is for releases that are either
* a) audiofile discs, cd's full of audio files such as mp3's or ogg
* a) audiofile discs, cd's full of audio files such as mp3's or ogg
* b) multimedia 2 session disc (bad name please change) cd's that typically have 2 sessions, one which is data and the other which is comprised regular of audiotracks, such discs are typically computer-Game CD's or CD-lens cleaners.
* b) multimedia 2 session disc (bad name please change) cd's that typically have 2 sessions, one which is data and the other which is comprised regular of audiotracks, such discs are typically computer-Game CD's or CD-lens cleaners.
;Other

:ideally this type should now be obsolete, it should however be retained because a) we still lave loads of releases with this type and b) no matter how you try to cater for releases there is going to be the odd one out that breaks the mold.
<dt>Demo
;Spokenword
<dd>
:this is now a heading type. it is still used the same as before. however it is implied that if something is 'audiobook' or 'interview' it is also at the same time 'spokenword'

;Interview
a new type. a demo is released by an unknown band to promote themselves, usually released in a crude format such as a homeburnt CDR or homemade cassette (f.ex [http://musicbrainz.org/album/d908246c-5ef9-4c21-a149-003a8e6891aa.html blink-182's Buddha demo]). Alternately a demo can be an early version of a song, recorded before the final layout of the song has been... layed out. The demo release type is '''not''' for releases that were, either commercially, officially or unofficially, compiled and released after the final cut/album was released.
:same as today, for interview discs
<dt>Bonus
;Audiobook
<dd>
:same as today, for audiobooks

;Radio play
after discussion with Shepard this makes sense. [http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3576131 mod #3576131] excellent example of why 'bonus' needs to be added.
:a new subtype, as requested by Shepard: "At the moment many actual radio plays are stored as Audiobooks in the db - this is wrong. And audiobook is just a book read by one person. A radio play is an audio play with many different characters and background sounds and stuff"
<dt>Other
;other narrative
<dd>ideally this type should now be obsolete, it should however be retained because a) we still lave loads of releases with this type and b) no matter how you try to cater for releases there is going to be the odd one out that breaks the mold.
:other spokenword type releases not already covered.
<dt>Spokenword
<dd>this is now a heading type. it is still used the same as before. however it is implied that if something is 'audiobook' or 'interview' it is also at the same time 'spokenword' <dl><dt>Interview
<dd>same as today, for interview discs
<dt>Audiobook
<dd>same as today, for audiobooks
<dt>Radio play
<dd>a new subtype, as requested by Shepard: "At the moment many actual radio plays are stored as Audiobooks in the db - this is wrong. And audiobook is just a book read by one person. A radio play is an audio play with many different characters and background sounds and stuff"
<dt>other narrative
<dd>other spokenword type releases not already covered.
</dl>
</dl>

----


==See also==

* [[Release Region Style|ReleaseRegionStyle]] - proposal for restructuring release countries to wider release regions
* [[Release Data Set|ReleaseDataSet]] - a proposal on how to restructure other release data
* [[Album Rework|AlbumRework]] - a comprehensive proposal which makes use of the types defined here
* misc link: [http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames.txt bla]

==Discussion==

Please see [[Talk:Release Type Restructuring|ReleaseTypeRestructuringDiscussion]]

[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Proposal]]

Latest revision as of 19:16, 28 August 2016


Status: This page describes an active proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-49
Champion: none, was BrianFreud & mo (& others)
Current status: Abandoned


Trac ticket # 1372

Status: This proposal is currently under development. At the moment, it may be a mess, as the layout is being restructured and updated.


Release Status

Any Release Status proposals which were formerly located here have been relocated to Release Status Proposals, as modifications to the Release Status are outside of the scope of this proposal.

Release Format

Any Release Format proposals which were formerly located here have been relocated to Release Format Proposal, as modifications to the Release Format are outside of the scope of this proposal.



Everything below is potentially a mess.






Main Types

  • Album (LP)
  • EP
  • Single
    • Maxi-CD
  • Other

...

  • Split
  • Compilation
    • Highlights
  • Remix
  • Remaster
  • Live
  • Soundtrack
  • Composer
  • Data (when clicked, either option under is possible, but not both)
    • audiofile disc
    • multimedia 2 session disc
  • Other
  • Demo
  • Bonus
  • Spokenword
    • Interview
    • Audiobook
    • Radio play
    • other narrative

Description

Main Types

These are mostly multiple choice per release conglomeration. The exceptions are album, single and EP, as (I think) they are exclusive of each other. (these are per day's date separate from release events and labels) (One Choice)

Album
same as today, first time releases.
EP
same as today, for releases clearly marked 'EP'
Single
same as today, single releases
Maxi-Single
a suboption for single, basically what EP was to vinyl this is to CD's today? the rules are not as strict though, any Maxi-Single is as explicitly a single, if a release is rather more classified as EP, use that instead.
Other
for releases that do not fit in any other categories, Album, EP or Single.

(Multiple Choice)

Compilation
for compilations, same as today: releases that are selections of tracks from one ore more artists that has been released before.
Split

releases that are re-releases of 2 or more releases on one disc (f.ex No Heavy Petting / Lights Out) or releases where two or more artists share a disc (f.ex Light the Fuse and Run/Hot Cross Split ). both are typically called a "split release".

Remix
same as today, remixes. although they should probably be stored with albums on the 'albums' page in APR?
Remaster

while there is an AR for this, sometimes a release is released as being specifically a "Remaster" rather than a "remastered album", probably some [album] [remaster] combination for this. Other times a release is a collection of "remastered tracks found on several albums" (making them in essence compilations) (see "Remasters" 1 & 2 by Led Zep for an example) [compilation] [remaster] etc.

Live
same as today, a live release. The difference however is that one can now chose [compilation] [live] for releases that aren't of a single live 'session', finally solving this issue.
Soundtrack
same as today, with the addition that one can chose [compilation] [soundtrack] for comps of soundtracks, etc.
Composer

this is a new type for releases that utilise the ClassicalStyleGuide (where the artist in the !track/album is the composer of the work, not the performer). Here [album] [composer] is for your typical "full works" and [compilation] [composer] for releases with several works by the one or more composers on the same release.

Highlights
after discussion with Clutcher I agree. this should be (at least) a subtype in its own right. please use with Composer style or Soundtrack
Data
this is for releases that are either
  • a) audiofile discs, cd's full of audio files such as mp3's or ogg
  • b) multimedia 2 session disc (bad name please change) cd's that typically have 2 sessions, one which is data and the other which is comprised regular of audiotracks, such discs are typically computer-Game CD's or CD-lens cleaners.
Other
ideally this type should now be obsolete, it should however be retained because a) we still lave loads of releases with this type and b) no matter how you try to cater for releases there is going to be the odd one out that breaks the mold.
Spokenword
this is now a heading type. it is still used the same as before. however it is implied that if something is 'audiobook' or 'interview' it is also at the same time 'spokenword'
Interview
same as today, for interview discs
Audiobook
same as today, for audiobooks
Radio play
a new subtype, as requested by Shepard: "At the moment many actual radio plays are stored as Audiobooks in the db - this is wrong. And audiobook is just a book read by one person. A radio play is an audio play with many different characters and background sounds and stuff"
other narrative
other spokenword type releases not already covered.