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= Proposal = I have been thinking over this album release thing quite alot, the previous redrafts, ideas and talks in the mailinglist where contributional factors to this, I have tried to include what those people have said, and asked for, plus my own usage of release types. Here is my proposal and restructuring (the option 'I don't know' is implied) after this list follows a list of groups & settings and explanations of their meanings

my new idea is a base of 3. it also involve tickyboxes on some, but not all options.

physical media

  • CD
  • vinyl
    • 7 12 LP etc
  • cassette
  • transferable data (webalbums / stand alone mp3/ogg etc)
  • minidisc (do we need this?)

release status

official | commercial | bootleg

main types

  • album
  • single
  • EP
    • remix
    • remaster
    • compilation
    • live
    • soundtrack
    • classical
    • Data-disc (that contains audiofile(s))
    • other
    • interview
    • audiobook
    • spokenword
    • other narrative

description

physical media: pretty much says itself, what is the thing you have in your hand? These types are not tickyboxed, only radio buttons. a CD is not a cassette. later in restructuring we may want to add the possibility to add *several* physical media types, ideally connected with release dates. (this requires complete rewrite of the releasetype+releasedate tables, I know. so I'm not going there. yet ôô)

  • CD just a CD, regular type .
  • DVD we are going to get pure musical DVD's eventually. but maybe not yet.
  • Vinyl, 7 12 LP. I don't know how to structure these. they may be sub-tickyboxes of 'Vinyl' and 'CD'
  • Cassette just your average tape
  • transferable data (webalbums / stand alone mp3/ogg etc) this needs perhaps a different name. do we want to separate webalbums from standalone downloadable tracks? (in the first case I see [name for this type goes here] [album] as it's setting. the latter would just be [NftTGH] [?])
  • minidisc, again, do we need this?

release status: the status of this release. these are *not* tickyboxed, as a release can only be *one* of the options.

  • official exactly like it is today, sanctioned by *both* the artist and the record-company (if applicable). These releases are most likely listed on the artists' own website and most fansites.
  • commercial a new type, this is for releases that are pretty much sanctioned by the record-company (or resold to other companies) but *not* the artist, exactly. These albums will usually *not* be listed on the artists website or fansites. Examples of this kind of records are the various greatest hits / best of xx's, time-life / the best XXXXX in the world, POP! # NOW! [name] [number], etc. type VA compilations fall into this category. some SingleArtitst compilations also come under this type. they are usually not (if at all) listed on Artistssites or Fansites. (but usually on recordcompany-sites or buy sites like amazon) (in essential, *all* classical music will be this option. but perhaps 'official' should be retained for classical albums where the performer(s) are *serious* (an example of *serious* albums would be http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=275610 & http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=160240 and examples of *unserious* albums would be http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=208493 & http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=80661 basically you can tell with the CD and jewelcase. *serious* ones make a big hoopla and have richly including liner booklets and are usually released by one of the big 'classical' record companies (EMI, Decca, deutche gramphone, Naxos, Philips etc) while *unserious* ones tend to have small linernotes (or none at all) and will be from small "bootlegesque" record companies)
  • bootleg same as today. albums not sanctioned by *neither* record company nor artist. these albums *can* be listed on the artists website (rare), but most good fansites have a bootleg section.

that types: these are mostly tickyboxed. the exemptions are album, single and EP, as they are pretty much exclusive of each other (go ahead and find me examples that defy this!)

  • album same as today, first time releases.
  • single same as today, single releases (make 'maxi single' a subtype?)
  • EP same as today, for releases clearly marked 'EP'
  • compilation' I wondered if I was going to put this in the other list instead. AFAIK are there compilation singles or EP's?

(the following are all tickyboxed)

  • remix same as today, remixes. although they will be stored with albums on the 'albums' page in APR
  • remaster while there is an AR for this, sometimes an album isn't a remaster of another, unmastered older album (vinyl, cassette, old CD's) but rather remasters of tracks find on several albums (making them comp) track by track adding of remaster AR's is exhausting, to say the least, plus we already have AR's for 'remix' (which is also a releasetype)

live same as today, a live release. however one can chose [compilation] [live] for releases that aren't of a single live 'session' soundtrack same as today, with the addition that one can chose [compilation] [soundtrack] for comps of soundtracks and 'highlights' of musicals

  • classical for classical albums or albums that utilise ClassicalStyleGuidelines chose [album] [classical] for "full works" and [compilation] [classical] for "highlights" or for several works by the same or more composers on one release. (or do we want a separate subtype on [compilation] called 'highlights'?)
  • Data-disc (that contains audiofile(s)) use this together with [soundtrack] (and or [compilation]) for releases that are game CDs with music in them. for CD-lens cleaners etc. but only for discs that have a *preceding* datatrack. *NEVER* trailing!
  • promotional same as today, for releases that are given away (usually free) by sweepstakes. magazines, competitions etc.
  • demo a new type. a demo album is different than a promotional... because uh.. (I forgot, please add description here)
  • other ideally this type should now be obsolete, it should however be retained because a) we still lave loads of releases with this type and b) no matter how you try to cater for releases there is going to be the odd one out that breaks the mould :)
  • spokenword' this is now a heading type. it is still used the same as before. however it is implied that if something is 'audiobook' or 'interview' it is also at the same time 'spokenword'
    • interview same as today, for interview discs
    • audiobook same as today, for audiobooks
    • other narrative other spokenword type releases not already covered.
      • do we want/need Drama-Disc? anything else?

that's it. my release type proposal mrk1. please review and add to this page! I have undoubtfully forgotten a type or two. discuss the questions I have added in the text.

  • = Discussion: = complete rewrite of the releasetype+releasedate feasible? necessary? DVD or not to DVD? should 7 12 LP etc be sub-tickyboxes of 'Vinyl' and 'CD' ?
  • what about 'Maxi-CD' ?
  • transferable data: I am in no way married to this name. do we need separate webalbum type or will one setting be fine for everything?
  • minidisc do we really need this?
  • how do we describe *serious* vs. *unserious* classical albums (I am sure the classical mods understand what I mean. but others are probably confused as heck XD)
  • what are pros/cons with the new main restructuring. what needs to be rehashed IYO?
  • are there compilation singles or EP's?
  • should 'highlights' be a separate subtype?
  • I'm not married to the name 'Data-disc' either. go a head and propose a better one

are there any other types you would like? can you see your type fit in anywhere in this three? a restructuring of types or adding/moving removing of subtypes? please add your insight here.


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