Jazz/Compositions

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Purpose of this page

The purpose of this page is to maintain a list of compositions (or so-called standards) that have been played many times, and that present either numerous spelling variants, or some specific capitalization difficulty (possibly related to a GuessCase quirk).

Unless artist intent comes into play (in a few rare cases), jazz track titles should be harmonized according to the composition title variant that have been chosen.

By "chosen", we mean the following:

  • a proposed composition title first enter this page in the "To be discussed list"
  • after it is discussed, eventually changed and approved by jazz concerned moderators, it enters the main list

The purpose of this page is not to list each and every jazz tune, but should be kept to a reasonnable size, and mention only compositions that meet the criteria mentionned (more than 20 occurences, and a specific difficulty and/or known multiple variants).

This page should be pointed at in moderation notes, and serves as a reasonnably valid authority to justify a track title change, saving time and efforts for both moderators and voters.

Jazz concerned moderators

If you want to participate in these discussions, please add you moderator nick name here (and eventually subcribe to this page ;) ):

How to determine and propose a composition? (approved guidelines)

How to determine and propose a composition? (proposed guidelines)

  • Gather known variants of the composition
  • Check ascap for your composition (be sure you have the one you're looking for, and note the composer(s) name)
  • Determine which variant you'll propose for approval using the following rules:
    • Always try to favor ASCAP main entry unless...
    • If the title has a known/widely-used longer variant than the ASCAP main entry (see: "be anything"), use the main ASCAP entry, and complete it with the remaining part enclosed into parenthesis, following usual capitalization guidelines
    • for abbreviated words (Rockin), favor the variants with a single quote (Rockin')
    • for quoted words or letters ("C" Jam Blues), favor double quotes
  • Propose your variant in the list, using a syntax similar to the example
  • Wait for discussion, proposed changes, approval
  • Rejoice! And go harmonize all the occurences of your title!

Proposed by: dmppanda

Aggreed by:

Discussion:

Compositions list (approved)

  • Do Nothin' Till You Hear From Me
    • Ellington/Russel
    • have a lot of variants, with Nothing, Until, 'till, etc
    • dmppanda claiborne
    • Although ASCAP main entry is "Do Nothing Till You Hear From Me", I prefer the abbreviated Nothin', which seems to be the most widely chosen variant in discographic ressources
  • 'Round Midnight
    • Hanighen/Monk/Williams
    • Common variants including eluded leading quote, Round About Midnight, Round 'Bout Midnight, combinations of these, and numerous other...
    • dmppanda, claiborne
    • Proposed variant is ASCAP main entry. Now, this one is really a problem because IMO Capitalization Styleguide doesn't address clearly how we should capitalize the R. Wether we need to wait for a decision on this front, or decide a variant for this title, whatever the common rule is, is yet to be discussed.
  • "C" Jam Blues
    • Ellington
    • Common variants without the double quotes, or with a dash, or with single quotes
    • dmppanda
  • Oh, Lady Be Good
    • Gerschwin
    • numerous variants, including "!" after the "Oh" and/or appended to the title
    • dmppanda
    • IMO the more common choice in discographic ressources

Compositions list (proposed)

Use the following format to propose a composition:

  • Proposed variant
    • Composed by: Composer(s) name
    • Known variants: list of known variants, mispelling, improper capitalization
    • Approved by: dmppanda (<- your nick name), (others will add their name here if they agree)
    • Discussion: if needed, your own additional comments, and of course the following discussion

Actual list:

  • 'S Wonderful
    • Gerschwin
    • numerous variants, S', S, Wunderful...
    • dmppanda, claiborne
    • I'm not really sure about the uppercased S, as it should be the shorten form of It's...
  • Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man
    • Oscar Hammerstein/Jerome Kern
    • Can't Help Lovin' That Man, Can't Help Loving That Man, etc..
    • claiborne
    • ASCAP main entry supports "Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man." More artists appear to use this version than others.
  • 'Tain't What You Do (It's the Way That You Do It)
    • Sy Oliver, Young
    • Tain't What You Do or even Taint.
    • DonRedman
    • No idea which is the correct one. "ain't" definitely has the apostrophe. "'tain't" as short for "it ain't" makes sense. IIUC ascap does not store the apostrophes. So how should we know

Compositions list (yet in the cooker)

  • "D & E" or "D and E"?
  • I've Told Ev'ry Little Star
  • Bags' Groove
  • The Girl From Ipanema
  • T'ain't Nobody's Business if I Do / Ain't Nobody's Business if I Do / ... Bizness
  • "Murder," He Says / Murder He Says / Murder, He Says / "Murder" He Says
  • Indiana (Back Home Again in) / Back Home Again in Indiana / (Back Home Again in ) Indiana
  • (Get Your Kicks on) Route 66 / Route 66 / Get Your Kicks on Route 66 / Route 66 (Get Your Kicks on)
  • (Hep-Hep!) The Jumpin' Jive / The Jumpin' Jive / Jumping Jive / Jumpin' Jive (Hep-Hep!)
  • (I Don't Stand a) Ghost of a Chance with You / Ghost of a Chance / I Don't Stand a Ghost of a Chance with You/...
  • (I Got a Woman Crazy for Me) She's Funny that Way / She's Funny that Way/...
  • (I Love You) For Sentimental Reasons / For Sentimental Reasons / For Sentimental Reasons (I Love You)
  • Lean Baby / My Lean Baby
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