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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[Image:Attention.png]] '''Status:''' ''Warning! This is a working draft for the discussion going on the style mailing list: [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-November/004038.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-November/004038.html]. It's not official in any way!''
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==What is a Record Label?==
==What is a Record Label?==


<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">-- heavily inspired by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label Wikipedia]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">-- ''(derived from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label Wikipedia])''
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"Record label" has multiple meanings:
'''Record labels''' may refer to:
* Music Groups:
* Music groups:
** A music group is a financial holding, whose purpose is solely to control and manage other companies directly involved in the production of sound recordings
** A music group is a financial holding, whose purpose is solely to control and manage other companies directly involved in the production of sound recordings


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At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), or get into too much financial details. There are two reasons for that:
At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), or get into too much financial details. There are two reasons for that:
* such informations are usually not available from sleeves
* such informations are usually not available from sleeves
* they are probably irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]] goal (being a '''music''' database)
* they are probably irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]] goal (being a '''music''' database)


==Informations about labels stored in the database==
==How to handle autoreleases?==

In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is discutable, we may want to use [[Special Purpose Label|SpecialPurposeLabel]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s (possibly [autorelease]).

==Information about labels stored in the database==


These fields are stored directly in each label's record:
These fields are stored directly in each label's record:
* [[Label ID|LabelID]]: the UUID of the label (not editable)
* [[Label ID|LabelID]]: the UUID of the label (not editable)
* [[Label Name|LabelName]]: the name of the label
* [[Label Name|LabelName]]: the name of the label
* [[Label Sortname|LabelSortname]]: the sortname of the label
* [[Label Alias|LabelAlias]]: aliases
* [[Label Code|LabelCode]]: the unique code of the label
* [[Label Code|LabelCode]]: the unique code of the label
* [[Label Begin Date|LabelBeginDate]]: this is the creation date (or "first used name" date) of the label entity
* [[Label Begin Date|LabelBeginDate]]: this is the creation date (or "first used name" date) of the label entity
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* [[Label Country|LabelCountry]]: the country in which the company was founded
* [[Label Country|LabelCountry]]: the country in which the company was founded
* [[Label Type|LabelType]]: the "type" of the label
* [[Label Type|LabelType]]: the "type" of the label

Possibly also:
* [[Label Sortname|LabelSortname]]
* [[Label Alias|LabelAlias]]


Many other kinds of information can be represented using [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]]. You can read [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check [[Label Relationship Class|LabelRelationshipClass]] for label centric informations.
Many other kinds of information can be represented using [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]]. You can read [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check [[Label Relationship Class|LabelRelationshipClass]] for label centric informations.
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==F.A.Q./Miscellaneous==
==Known problems and limitations==

===How to handle autoreleases?===

In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is discutable, we may want to use [[Special Purpose Label|SpecialPurposeLabel]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s (possibly [autorelease]).

===Can an imprint and the company that controls it have the same name?===

Yes, definitely. Actually, a company "A" may sell its own imprint "A" to another company "B" and continue to exist as company "A", while the imprint is being operated by company "B"... This can result in really confusing situations... Usually though, editors in [[MusicBrainz]] will deal with imprints exclusively (which *is* the information available on sleeves).

===Known problems and limitations===


The system currently has known limitations, that may be solved later:
The system currently has known limitations, that may be solved later:
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* How should artists that release their own stuff be handled? Create a label page for the artist? (I know of several autoreleasers within the Danish folk music milieu alone.) --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]] {{DateTime}}
* How should artists that release their own stuff be handled? Create a label page for the artist? (I know of several autoreleasers within the Danish folk music milieu alone.) --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]] {{DateTime}}
** I guess it boils down to: does a legal entity (association, company, whatever) exists, and does the media bears a barcode? If so, then *this* (whatever *this* is) is the "label" (even if owned by the artist, even if nothing more than a trademark name to which the barcode has been attributed. If not, then I guess we are dealing with people distributing CDr around, out of any kind of structure (be it commercial or legal), right? In this case, IMO there is no label at all (and possibly no release event either). Probably the same goes for "internet" releases out of any "official" structures. Wether we want a "phony" label (or more than one?) to distinguish between such "autorelease" and "no-info-yet-release" is an open question. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 08:47, 07 November 2006 (UTC)
** I guess it boils down to: does a legal entity (association, company, whatever) exists, and does the media bears a barcode? If so, then *this* (whatever *this* is) is the "label" (even if owned by the artist, even if nothing more than a trademark name to which the barcode has been attributed. If not, then I guess we are dealing with people distributing CDr around, out of any kind of structure (be it commercial or legal), right? In this case, IMO there is no label at all (and possibly no release event either). Probably the same goes for "internet" releases out of any "official" structures. Wether we want a "phony" label (or more than one?) to distinguish between such "autorelease" and "no-info-yet-release" is an open question. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 08:47, 07 November 2006 (UTC)
** I rewrote the introduction of this page, in the hope it clarifies things a bit. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 13:34, 07 November 2006 (UTC)


[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Terminology]] [[Category:Label]]
[[Category:To Be Reviewed]] [[Category:Terminology]] [[Category:Label]]

Revision as of 15:45, 6 December 2006

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What is a Record Label?

Record labels may refer to:

  • Music groups:
    • A music group is a financial holding, whose purpose is solely to control and manage other companies directly involved in the production of sound recordings
  • Record companies:
    • A record company manages imprints, and coordinates the production / manufacturing / promotion / enforcement of copyright protection / relations with artist / PR / distribution of sound recordings. Record labels may directly handle one or more of these aspects, or may sign contractual agreements with other companies to do the job.
  • Imprints:
    • An imprint is (strictly, and nothing more than) a brand (and trademark) associated with the marketing of sound recordings (an imprint is not a company). An imprint may be marketed as a project, unit or division of the company that manages it.

MusicBrainz should keep track of imprints, companies involved into either production or distribution, and to some extent music groups. Typically, all these informations are available on the media sleeves.

At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), or get into too much financial details. There are two reasons for that:

  • such informations are usually not available from sleeves
  • they are probably irrelevant to MusicBrainz goal (being a music database)

Informations about labels stored in the database

These fields are stored directly in each label's record:

  • LabelID: the UUID of the label (not editable)
  • LabelName: the name of the label
  • LabelSortname: the sortname of the label
  • LabelAlias: aliases
  • LabelCode: the unique code of the label
  • LabelBeginDate: this is the creation date (or "first used name" date) of the label entity
  • LabelEndDate: this is the date at which the company went bankrupt, was dismantled, or the name was used for the last time
  • LabelComment: field to distinguish between identically named labels
  • LabelAnnotation: general information about the label that may be of interest to other users
  • LabelCountry: the country in which the company was founded
  • LabelType: the "type" of the label

Many other kinds of information can be represented using AdvancedRelationships. You can read AdvancedRelationshipTypes for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check LabelRelationshipClass for label centric informations.

Editing labels

Any MusicBrainz user can edit labels in several ways:

Informative external resources about labels

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The following sites are useful to find labels homepages:

Wikipedia has an extensive labels list, and a lot of articles:

Genre oriented resources:

Global market share overview:

  • There are mainly "4 big ones": Universal Music Group, EMI Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony BMG who own a vast majority of all other labels.

F.A.Q./Miscellaneous

How to handle autoreleases?

In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is discutable, we may want to use SpecialPurposeLabels (possibly [autorelease]).

Can an imprint and the company that controls it have the same name?

Yes, definitely. Actually, a company "A" may sell its own imprint "A" to another company "B" and continue to exist as company "A", while the imprint is being operated by company "B"... This can result in really confusing situations... Usually though, editors in MusicBrainz will deal with imprints exclusively (which *is* the information available on sleeves).

Known problems and limitations

The system currently has known limitations, that may be solved later:

  • Ideally, we could be able to attach multiple release events (release date and country) to a unique catalog number / EAN. -- dmppanda 21:22, 03 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

  • The use of a label entity for collections names must be made with extra-care. Definitely, one must not use collection names printed on the front cover as a label name, but only if the collection name is printed in place of the label name, and is really used by the producing label as is. For example, any of the "Verve Jazz Masters" releases are from label Verve, dot, and "Jazz Masters" should be part of the release name. Compare this with the Original Jazz Classics releases, by label Fantasy. -- dmppanda 21:22, 03 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Although... it's somewhat an interesting side-effect to be able to use phony labels as collection names...
  • How should artists that release their own stuff be handled? Create a label page for the artist? (I know of several autoreleasers within the Danish folk music milieu alone.) --FrederikSOlesen Template:DateTime
    • I guess it boils down to: does a legal entity (association, company, whatever) exists, and does the media bears a barcode? If so, then *this* (whatever *this* is) is the "label" (even if owned by the artist, even if nothing more than a trademark name to which the barcode has been attributed. If not, then I guess we are dealing with people distributing CDr around, out of any kind of structure (be it commercial or legal), right? In this case, IMO there is no label at all (and possibly no release event either). Probably the same goes for "internet" releases out of any "official" structures. Wether we want a "phony" label (or more than one?) to distinguish between such "autorelease" and "no-info-yet-release" is an open question. -- dmppanda 08:47, 07 November 2006 (UTC)