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* "''Live at the Gorge 05/06 (box 2: 2006-07-22, disc 2)''"
* "''Live at the Gorge 05/06 (box 2: 2006-07-22, disc 2)''"
* [[Multiple Title Style|MultipleTitleStyle]] example: "''Surfer Rosa / Come on Pilgrim''"
* [[Multiple Title Style|MultipleTitleStyle]] example: "''Surfer Rosa / Come on Pilgrim''"

==Discussion==

I've tried to make the current situation clear on this page. I've made the ordering of the parts a bit more strict. Rationale: the parts that contain artist information ([[Featuring Artist|FeaturingArtist]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s) seem less connected to the [[Main Title|MainTitle]] and [[Subtitle|SubTitle]](s) than the parts that contain release information ([[Volume Number|VolumeNumber]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s, [[Disc Number|DiscNumber]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s). Also, [[Featuring Artist|FeaturingArtist]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s should go at the end, because it's just a workaround for current database limitation (also after [[SG5 Disaster Relief|SG5DisasterRelief]]). --[[User:Zout|Zout]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">It's a workaround? So then feat. in track titles is a workaround, too? I think it's just part of the title. See [http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000094HMX.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg this cover] for an example. But well, that can be discussed otherwhere. The important thing: I don't think it should go after the disc number. Why should it, being part of the title? We had an informal rule when we added "Mixed by" to the release titles of multidisc releases: if the DJ mixed both CDs, add it after the disc number. If one DJ mixed CD 1 and another one mixed CD 2, then add them before the disc number. So the only reason I could see here for putting it at the end is if someone featured on both discs. But still this does not feel correct... --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I know we had this informal rule. But since we deal with [[Release]]s and not releases as we might in the future, all info in the ReleaseTitle deals with that release only. So why have one release where the info is before the [[Disc Number|DiscNumber]], and another release where it is after the [[Disc Number|DiscNumber]]? Seems counterintuitive, and it does not sort correctly on disc numbers. If we decide [[Featuring Artist|FeaturingArtist]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s are actually part of the ReleaseTitle, then we have another discussion. --[[User:Zout|Zout]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I agree with [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] about the ordering. Maybe it's just personal choice, but I'd include [[Featuring Artist|FeaturingArtist]] directly after [[Main Title|MainTitle]], like it is for [[Track Title|TrackTitle]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s. I think it's also time it was made official that "(feat. xxx)" should appear before [[Extra Title Information|ExtraTitleInformation]] for [[Track Title|TrackTitle]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s such as remixes. e.g. "The Chemical Brothers - The Pills Won't Help You Now (feat. Midlake) (The Remixes) (disc 1)". --[[Arty Smokes|ArtySmokes]]
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To reiterate what I said on the [[Style Mailing List|StyleMailingList]] - I don't think we should be deleting the mix artist from release titles until we have some way of getting that onto the tag. --[[User:Gecks|Gecks]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I think this is already possible with the current [[Picard Qt|PicardQt]] --[[User:Zout|Zout]]
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Is it time we added a list of common additional information and determined if it is [[Extra Title Information|ExtraTitleInformation]] or Subtitles? I'm thinking of "deluxe edition", "remastered", "clean/dirty version" etc. Should these:
# be allowed or not?
# parenthesised or follow a colon?
# upper/lower-cased? --[[Arty Smokes|ArtySmokes]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Well, to start off, here's the ones for soundtracks I would suggest:<br/>
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Movie Title <-- For the standard score or soundtrack, as per soundtrack style.<br/> Movie Title (Complete Score) <-- Typically a bootleg release, but some official.<br/> Movie Title (Expanded Score) <-- Typically a bootleg release, but some official.<br/>
</ul>and for Musical Theater: <br/>
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Musical Name (<yyyy> <original/revival> <location> Cast)<br/>
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">example: My Musical (2007 Original Broadway Cast)<br/> example: My Musical (1963 San Francisco Cast)<br/>
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</ul>-- [[Brian Schweitzer|BrianSchweitzer]] 03:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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Since this is only a ''Proposed'' style guideline, I was bold and added references to [[Box Set Name Style|BoxSetNameStyle]] (an [[Official Style Guideline|OfficialStyleGuideline]]), [[Multi-Disc Release|MultiDiscRelease]], [[Classical Release Title Style|ClassicalReleaseTitleStyle]]. This is a great summary, and with even more crosslinking promotes coherence and easier navigation among the style guidelines. --[[User:JimDeLaHunt|JimDeLaHunt]] 2007-12-29


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Revision as of 12:37, 15 March 2009

Definition of all parts of a release title

In MusicBrainzTerminology, the release title is the entire text string representing the name of a Release. It is stored in the release title field.

This page deals with (a) the definition of different parts of ReleaseTitles and (b) the ordering of these parts.

These instructions stretch to apply to any MusicalGenre. See also the genre-specific variations: ClassicalReleaseTitleStyle for ClassicalMusic, etc.

Definition

  • This is the major part of an ReleaseTitle, and is the main reference when talking about a work or a person. For example, in the title "100% Hits: The Best of 1998 (disc 1)", the bold part is the MainTitle.
  • This is a secondary part of an ReleaseTitle, usually containing extra information relevant to an release, or sometimes a second name or an extension of the MainTitle. Using the previous example, "100% Hits: The Best of 1998 (disc 1)" (the bold part is the SubTitle). Another example would be "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix".
  • This is a special part of the title that defines where this release fits into a series of releases. Usually it takes the form "Volume x", but there may be other distinguishers used. For example "Greatest Hits of 1993, Volume 3" or New Wave, Number 1.
  • Sometimes a volume of a series has a title itself. A VolumeTitle is only allowed when the ReleaseTitle includes a VolumeNumber. An example is "Cornology, Volume 1: The Intro" by "The Bonzo Dog Band".
  • This defines titles that are applicable to one box of a multi-box BoxSet only, for example "Box_Set_Title (box 2: Box_Title, disc 1)" and "Box_Set_Title (box 1: Box_Title, disc 3: Album_Title)".
  • This defines titles that are applicable to one disc of a MultiDiscRelease only, for example "To Venus and Back (disc 1: Orbiting)" and "To Venus and Back (disc 2: Live, Still Orbiting)" by "Tori Amos".
  • Other information:
  • All information not captured by the parts described above must be added to the ReleaseAnnotation. For example, if the title on purpose does not follow the CapitalizationStandard or if it is a remaster, add this to the annotation. Also, the old way of indicating a mix artist for an release by appending (Mixed by Artist Name) to the ReleaseTitle is not correct any more. This now must be done by adding a MixDJRelationshipType.

Ordering

The order of the parts of an ReleaseTitle is:

Parts between '[' and ']' indicate not all ReleaseTitles have them, but if they do, they must be added.

Note that for multiple releases on one disc MultipleTitleStyle applies.

Examples

  • "Abbey Road"
  • "Greatest Hits, Volume 2 (disc 2: The Sober Years)"
  • "Boom Boom (bonus disc)"
  • "Live at the Gorge 05/06 (box 2: 2006-07-22, disc 2)"
  • MultipleTitleStyle example: "Surfer Rosa / Come on Pilgrim"