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''Note:'' This guideline applies to the titling of a bootleg [[Release Group|release group]]. For titling of a live [[Recording|recording]], see [[Style/Recording#Live recordings|live recordings]]. For titling of a release, see the [[Style/Track_and_release_titles|track and release titles guideline]] (unless the release is untitled, in which case you can use the release group title as determined below).
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''Note:'' This guideline applies to bootleg [[Release|releases]] and [[Release Group|release groups]]. For titling of live [[Recording|recordings]], see [[Style/Recording#Live recordings|live recording style]].
   
 
== Guidelines ==
 
== Guidelines ==
   
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For bootlegs with actual titles, just follow the standard [[Style/Titles|titles guideline]].
The following rules apply when titling a live bootleg release group:
 
   
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For untitled bootlegs, use its date and location information, in the form "YYYY-MM-DD: Venue, City, State/Province, Country".
# Live bootlegs without a title ''must'' be named by concatenating its date and location information.
 
#* Syntax: "''YYYY-MM-DD: Location''".
 
# Live bootlegs with a title ''may'' be extended with date and location information as follows:
 
#* Syntax: "''[YYYY-MM-DD: ]Title[: Location]''".
 
#* If there is alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon.
 
# The location ''must'' be formatted using the city and country, and ''may'' include a venue and/or state.
 
#* Syntax: "''[Venue, ]City, [State, ]Country''".
 
   
 
=== Notes ===
 
=== Notes ===
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Country names should match their [https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=type%3Acountry&type=area&limit=25&method=advanced names in the database], except for UK and USA, which should be abbreviated.
* The parts in square brackets are optional.
 
* ''YYYY-MM-DD'' is the date of the recording including the year (YYYY), month (MM) and day of month (DD).
 
* ''Venue'' is the name of the location where the concert took place (name of the hotel, stadium, hall, etc.).
 
* ''City'' can be the city, town or village.
 
* ''State'' is to further distinguish cities with identical names (such as ''Pasadena, TX'' in Texas vs ''Pasadena, CA'' in California) and may be refered to as a province in some countries. See [[State Abbreviations]].
 
* ''Country'' is the country.
 
   
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States in the USA and Canada should always be listed (in their abbreviated form). States and provinces elsewhere are optional, and should only be added when they're necessary to further distinguish cities with identical names.
==Additional Notes==
 
   
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Additional date information can be added before the colon, in the form: “YYYY-MM-DD, additional information: Venue, City, State/Province, Country”. This should only be used to distinguish events that took place the same day or if the event is advertised as such. Typical examples includes early/late show, dinner, matinée.
This guideline must not be used for live bootleg compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions, e.g. [[Release:bbf5373b-72e4-4f99-91c9-8467da030316|A Highway of Diamonds, Volume 1: The Never Ending Tour]].
 
   
This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. [[Release:eeca59f9-cf55-4aba-89f7-f4bae8247ff5|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]].
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Release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks should still follow this guideline. It doesn't matter whether the bonus tracks are live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings.
 
If a live bootleg release is recorded in the Netherlands, put just "Netherlands" as the country as per the listing on the [[Release Country]] page.
 
 
==Rationale==
 
 
In a lot of cases the most important information for live bootlegs is the date when the concert took place. Hiding this information for bootlegs where the person who compiled the release added a title means, that it is harder to find a special recording of a live session, because live bootlegs often don't have a release date.
 
 
Adding the venue is useful for finding all concerts an artist performed in one city over the years or all concerts that took place in a special location by using the search interface. Besides that this kind of information would be lost or nearly lost when it was added to the annotation.
 
 
On the other hand, there are bootleg releases of special concerts that have a well known title. In those cases its normally appropriate to list them under their title only.
 
   
 
==Examples==
 
==Examples==
   
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;[[Release:cf731f61-d8ba-438a-b346-644456fd27e2|2008-12-07: Rose Garden, Portland, OR, USA]]
=== Live bootlegs without a title ===
 
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: A standard live bootleg.
 
 
;[[Release:5555caea-3de8-480b-9952-421471a62517|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]]
 
;[[Release:5555caea-3de8-480b-9952-421471a62517|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]]
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: A live bootleg with bonus tracks.
; [[Release:b48c4e7a-21ae-408d-88a3-b56e3d2e44da|1993-02-12 to 1993-02-26: Pachyderm Studios, Cannon Falls, MN, USA]]
 
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;[[Release:bde0a56e-b2a8-48f8-8563-8d24ee4b2c2b|2008-12-17, early show: Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, USA]]
: A studio session bootleg spanning several consecutive dates.
 
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: A live bootleg with additional date information.
=== Live bootlegs with a well-known title ===
 
 
;[[Release:07d62425-10da-4dc7-b20f-0c4e6c3f1c43|Gaslight Tapes]]
 
: (may be replaced with a better one, as this is quasi-legitimate).
 
;[[Release:4bdea6ad-1285-4097-9274-cfe96458cdaa|Elvis Has Just Left the Building]]
 
: (A collection of live Elvis covers by Led Zeppelin spanning multiple dates. Should not be extended.)
 
; [[Release:1c268fa3-6218-4ff4-8be7-c7a51200438f|1980-07-07: Eternal Magic: Eissporthalle, Berlin, Germany]]
 
: A complete show, or at least all tracks from the same show, released under multiple titles [Eternal Magic, Heineken] can be extended with date/venue information, using the first or most common "title" of the bootleg.
 
; [[Release:3d2d66bc-9073-42ed-b9d8-6d576e778cf7|1980-12-21: Before the Exile! Rainbow Theatre, London, UK]]
 
: This shows how punctuation marks replace the colon.
 
 
   
 
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Latest revision as of 10:52, 12 November 2021

Status: This is an official style guideline.

Note: This guideline applies to bootleg releases and release groups. For titling of live recordings, see live recording style.

Guidelines

For bootlegs with actual titles, just follow the standard titles guideline.

For untitled bootlegs, use its date and location information, in the form "YYYY-MM-DD: Venue, City, State/Province, Country".

Notes

Country names should match their names in the database, except for UK and USA, which should be abbreviated.

States in the USA and Canada should always be listed (in their abbreviated form). States and provinces elsewhere are optional, and should only be added when they're necessary to further distinguish cities with identical names.

Additional date information can be added before the colon, in the form: “YYYY-MM-DD, additional information: Venue, City, State/Province, Country”. This should only be used to distinguish events that took place the same day or if the event is advertised as such. Typical examples includes early/late show, dinner, matinée.

Release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks should still follow this guideline. It doesn't matter whether the bonus tracks are live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings.

Examples

2008-12-07: Rose Garden, Portland, OR, USA
A standard live bootleg.
2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
A live bootleg with bonus tracks.
2008-12-17, early show: Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
A live bootleg with additional date information.
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