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While the MusicBrainz schema can correctly store a huge amount of data, at some moment you'll probably find something that just can't be entered with as much detail as the available information sources (be it liner notes, a website or other) provide. In these cases, you should add a "Sub Optimal Credits" section to the annotation for the entity.
The intent of this page is to keep track of releases and tracks and artists which are AR'ed in a non-optimal way (ie., with less information than what is available or with presumed information). If an instrument is listed repeatedly below, please do not hesitate to add it to [[Talk:Instrument Addition|InstrumentAdditionDiscussion]]! Also, if you're using this page, please give the parent page ([[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]]) a look and give some thoughts to the comments on this page there. Thank you. :)


Add the information to the smallest entity that qualifies: if you have information in a booklet that applies just to a recording, add it in the recording's annotation, not the one for the full release it appears in. If at all possible, '''add a relationship''' which is as accurate as MusicBrainz allows, and indicate what that relationship exactly represents in the "Sub Optimal Credits" section. If it is not possible, leave it uncredited (but remember to ''indicate this fact'').
==Per artist==


You should try to structure the Sub Optimal Credits section in the least confusing way you can. [//musicbrainz.org/search?query=%22SubOptimalCredits%22+OR+%22Sub+Optimal+Credits%22&type=annotation&limit=25&advanced=1 Here] you can see examples of annotations that include it, like:
* [[Artist:|Bjørslev, Henrik & Sunesen, Jakob]]
** [[Release:|Beyond Boundaries]]
*** Tracks 1-5, 9, 10, 12-16, and 18 should have "transverse flute" replaced by "Wooden flute" (I'm fairly convinced that it's a transverse wooden flute though... -- [[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]] 13:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC))
*** Track 6 has a "Boehm flute" for the "transverse flute". (Use Google.)
*** The "harpsichord" credited throughout is actually a "[[WikiPedia:spinet|spinet]]".


=== [SubOptimalCredits] ===
* [[Artist:e5a80135-9822-4b78-b680-7f270594376e|Cottars, The]]
** [[Release:|Made in Cape Breton]]
*** Ciarán and Fiona MacGillivray and Roseanne MacKenzie all performed "stepdancing" on the release (not credited at all in the ARs).
*** Roseanne MacKenzie's "background vocals" should be "harmony vocals"


If the information you are missing is a particular instrument, go to [[How to Add Instruments|this page]] and follow the instructions there. Other relationships, vocal types and the like can be proposed too; check the [[Proposals]] page to know more.
** [[Release:cf808612-3361-4aa3-8efc-68e108353079|On Fire!]]
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*** Various production and miscellaneous credits, as well as guest artists. See release annotation.
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*** Roseanne MacKenzie's "other percussion" should be "stepdancing"
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*** Roseanne MacKenzie's and Fiona MacGillivray's "other vocals" should be "harmony vocals"
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*** Ciaran MacGillivray's [[WikiPedia:Strat|"Strat"]] is credited as "electric guitar"
'''''Note:''''' ''The list of Sub Optimal Credits that was in this page can be found [[User:Reosarevok/Old_Sub_Optimal_List|here]] now.''
*** [[Track:76e7d7a9-2fb9-4ccb-8e0a-9b7529a243ce|Loch Tay Boat Song]] is credited in the inlay to "H. Boulton-R. McLeod". I've [http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=10153#2031813 enquired on MudCat's fora] as to what the relation is to "R. McLeod".

* [[Artist:7b489eb7-574a-492b-a795-b43a4d55b828|Croft no. Five]]
** [[Release:74d8fb41-8c04-42bc-b86e-4f6466bc6f0c|Attention All Personnel]]
*** Somhairle MacDonald and Paul Jennings should be credited with "samples", not "sampler".

* [[Artist:adf3879a-e091-4f73-8792-861a7a3e3abe|Don Cherry]] often performs [[WikiPedia:Pocket_trumpet|"Pocket Trumpet"]], which in a good number of occasions is credited simply as "Trumpet".
* [[Artist:abcd1648-fb93-4d4b-a073-dd61e4006b8b|Gaelic Storm]]
** [[Release:298b2b1e-d3cf-4dec-be0b-1803064a093f|Bring Yer Wellies]]
*** Track 1 written by "Twigger / Murphy"; Track 2 by "Twigger *"; Track 3 by "Murphy / Wehmeyer / Twigger *"; Track 4 by "Twigger *"; Track 5 by "Murphy / Twigger / Trad Lyrics *"; Track 6 by "Peter Purvis *", though I have to check whether none of the tunes are trad.; Track 7 by "Murphy / Wehmeyer / Twigger *"; Track 8 by "Trad *"; Track 9 and 10 by "Twigger *"; Track 11 by "Trad *"; Track 12 by "Twigger / Murphy *"; Track 13 by "Trad *"; Track 14 by "Twigger / Murphy / Wehmeyer / Reid *"
*** *All songs/tunes arranged by Gaelic Storm
*** Peter Purvis' two bagpipes should be "Deger Pipes" and "Highland Pipes". His tin whistle is listed as "whistles".
*** Steve Twigger plays mandolins, in plural.
*** Ellery Klein sings "bkg" vocals, translated to background in current AR.
*** Ryan Lacey plays straight out "percussion", not arbitrarily "percussion instruments".

* [[Artist:ca3236ef-2af5-48c6-8456-e5daeb1713a7|Islanders, The]]
** [[Release:3d449571-aae2-451b-8fbb-bf978590796b|On the Rocks]]
*** All tracks are attributed to "Trad.". This needs to be researched, as they seem to have been 'large' in using that term. (The first track has lyrics by Robert Burns, for example.)
*** Sleeve design by Lars Rud Fyhn.
*** Recorded at UNILYD, Kvong, Denmark. (Doesn't say by whom, unless that's the engineer...)

* [[Artist:62cfcc64-a7d2-4ec2-ab4b-2a6b62e53940|Lake of Tears]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Pretty much every artwork role. (They're usually in the annotations.)
* * Black Brick Road: artwork and layout by Bjo:rn Gustafsson. Lead guitars composed and performed by Magnus Sahlgren.

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* [[Artist:fcd87005-5392-4d86-87f7-0fbf79105392|Nielsen, Sussie]]
** [[Release:b7a70f8c-a447-4168-aded-bb00a6b401d1|After Rain]]
*** Track 3 has an unknown harp.
*** Track 8 has "pipe droning" - but it's not known what kind of pipe it is (or even if it's a pipe at all).

** [[Release:d881ec59-f6a4-487b-83a0-d6be6dccab41|Day is Dawning]]
*** Track 4 has Niklas Roswall on "[[WikiPedia:moraharpa|moraharpa]]", not nyckelharpa.

* [[Artist:4536d4bc-a3d6-4e8c-aa6c-8d68949b5ab4|Trabjerg, Anders]]
** [[Release:d7095a3a-56ee-44ed-951d-46fb4bc0ac9a|Boxed]]
*** Anders Trabjerg plays a "[[WikiPedia:melodion|melodion]]" (credited as "diatonic accordion"), a "button accordion" (should probably be credited as a diatonic accordion), and a "continental accordion" (credited as and ''is'' probably 'just' a button accordion).
*** "design/illustration by" Filippa von Essen should be "Cover Design"

* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=151799 Plexure] by John Oswald
** Multiple ARs not possible currently, all noted in the annotation. Also, it includes an interesting Artist - Distributor (ie Label) AR credit

==Per release==

* [[Release:507f5433-5bdf-4f9e-a1ce-a6dab959b8a6|Who Used to Dance]]
** Savion Glover's percussion instruments should be "tap dancing"

==Per track==

==Per instrument (if needed?)==

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Latest revision as of 12:28, 24 September 2018

While the MusicBrainz schema can correctly store a huge amount of data, at some moment you'll probably find something that just can't be entered with as much detail as the available information sources (be it liner notes, a website or other) provide. In these cases, you should add a "Sub Optimal Credits" section to the annotation for the entity.

Add the information to the smallest entity that qualifies: if you have information in a booklet that applies just to a recording, add it in the recording's annotation, not the one for the full release it appears in. If at all possible, add a relationship which is as accurate as MusicBrainz allows, and indicate what that relationship exactly represents in the "Sub Optimal Credits" section. If it is not possible, leave it uncredited (but remember to indicate this fact).

You should try to structure the Sub Optimal Credits section in the least confusing way you can. Here you can see examples of annotations that include it, like:

=== [SubOptimalCredits] ===

If the information you are missing is a particular instrument, go to this page and follow the instructions there. Other relationships, vocal types and the like can be proposed too; check the Proposals page to know more.



Note: The list of Sub Optimal Credits that was in this page can be found here now.