Talk:Candidate for Deletion

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Revision as of 20:45, 27 May 2009 by Murdos (talk | contribs) (Grr. Let's simplify this whole stuff.)

Too complex!

Current handling is way too complex. We have CfD category (Candidate for Deletion) **and** a voting page. Why two concepts for one thing?

Proposal: mark a page as CfD, discuss and vote on its talk page, if some yes/no vote ratio is reached, mark page with "To be deleted" category, which is watched by admins who can finally delete it. If decided against deletion, remove CfD Category. If deletion is only postponed because of some relevant material, mark with some other category, tranfer content and mark with "To be deleted". pronik 15:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

This works almost the same: mark a page with {{delete}}, discuss and vote on Candidate for Deletion/Current, which is watched by admins who delete pages/archive discussion after an as yet undecided period of time or a certain number of votes. If it's decided to not delete it, remove {{delete}}.

The majority of stuff in the category is from the wiki being converted. The discussion used to be on the page itself and now we have around 100 pages which were proposed for deletion at some point in the past but didn't get anywhere (hence why I'd like to try using a central page, we tried distributed discussion and it's left us with a big mess). The only reason we still have things in the category is because there are quite a lot of pages and I can only do so much at once. (BTW, I'm watching Candidate for Deletion/Current, but I can't watch which pages are added to Category:To be deleted, nor can I tell which talk pages have discussion about being deleted) Nikki 08:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree with pronik, this is too much work. Even the discussion is too much work. There are hundreds of pages that need deleting and discussing each one is going to take too much effort, IMO, especially if you're looking for consensus. FWIW, I've been marking with the Category. Adding to two different pages is too much effort. --Voiceinsideyou 08:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Grr. Let's simplify this whole stuff.

I'm a bit sick and tired of bureaucracy. No deleted page is gone forever, it can be restored anytime. Not everyone has a delete right. The whole wiki concept is about doing stuff immmediately. We don't vote on edits neither, right? Therefore my proposal: just delete the pages you consider (un-)worthy. Everyone interested enough in wiki cleanup (as opposed to just writing articles) should just into subscribing to RecentChanges RSS (like I do) and raise his voice if he doesn't like a particular deletion. We are a community of equals, so everyone ought to do equal amount of thinking before doing something, and thus can decide whether some content on a page is valuable. If in doubt, put it on the discussion page. pronik 15:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, that's a bit too direct. And it's difficult to see the page once it has been deleted without restoring it, and also to find pages that were linking too it. We can however make that a bit simpler: put the notice for deletion using the 'delete' template, wait a bit (maybe one week) and if noone disagree (by opening a related entry on the voting page or maybe the talk page), delete it. Murdos 20:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)