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== Open Issues ==
== Open Issues ==
=== Role in band ===

* It would be nice to specify what instrument someone played in a band, not just their membership. This raises questions concerning [[Artist Role Inheritance|ArtistRoleInheritance]]. This might also be an issue for [[Collaboration Relationship Type|CollaborationRelationshipType]]. This is now an [[Proposals|Advanced Relationship Type Proposal]].
* It would be nice to specify what instrument someone played in a band, not just their membership. This raises questions concerning [[Artist Role Inheritance|ArtistRoleInheritance]]. This might also be an issue for [[Collaboration Relationship Type|CollaborationRelationshipType]]. This is now an [[Proposals|Advanced Relationship Type Proposal]].
* What's the best use of the [[Date Relationship Attribute|DateRelationshipAttribute]] to specify that someone was a founding member of a band, or was in the band when it broke up? I think this question is worth having a separate wiki page for, [[Founding Member Dates Question|FoundingMemberDatesQuestion]]. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
* Can anyone think of an example where one band is a member of another band? That is, a band, not just a collaboration.
** Just came across this: [[Artist:e49bee5b-5f86-46d1-9337-56654a5baa8e|Tosca String Quartet]] joined with [[Artist:b2a5055f-2727-4316-8279-7b7e10ff55ff|Glover Gill]] to form [[Artist:1e077764-f8bf-4c57-93d0-1e06d927927e|Tosca Tango Orchestra]]. They've released six albums. See description at [http://www.toscastrings.com/tosca_tango.htm http://www.toscastrings.com/tosca_tango.htm]. -- [[jdc0730]]

* Hi, I was reading the comment about specifying the instruments someone in a band plays. I have added this subcatagory to my proposed [[Supporting Musician Relationship Type|SupportingMusicianRelationshipType]]. This proposal aimed at artists who play on albums (or tour with) solo artist, as people are currently listed as members of other 'people', which is quite messy and inappropriate. Please check it out.
* Hi, I was reading the comment about specifying the instruments someone in a band plays. I have added this subcatagory to my proposed [[Supporting Musician Relationship Type|SupportingMusicianRelationshipType]]. This proposal aimed at artists who play on albums (or tour with) solo artist, as people are currently listed as members of other 'people', which is quite messy and inappropriate. Please check it out.


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check it out. ~[[User:mo|mo]]
check it out. ~[[User:mo|mo]]


=== Group a member of Band ===
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* Can anyone think of an example where one band is a member of another band? That is, a band, not just a collaboration.
** Just came across this: [[Artist:e49bee5b-5f86-46d1-9337-56654a5baa8e|Tosca String Quartet]] joined with [[Artist:b2a5055f-2727-4316-8279-7b7e10ff55ff|Glover Gill]] to form [[Artist:1e077764-f8bf-4c57-93d0-1e06d927927e|Tosca Tango Orchestra]]. They've released six albums. See description at [http://www.toscastrings.com/tosca_tango.htm http://www.toscastrings.com/tosca_tango.htm]. -- [[jdc0730]]


== Resolved Issues ==
== Resolved Issues ==
=== Performance Names ===

What happens when someone performs under several different names during the course of their membership? For example, [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/4d61abe3-ce6d-4383-b2cd-8b4491496549.html Tim Commerford] of Rage Against the Machine is credited as "Timmy C." on their self-titled album, but "Y.tim.K." on "The Battle of Los Angeles". My suggestion would be that this case should be handled by just choosing something common-sense, like the most widely-known name, or in this case just using the legal name is fine, since it's fairly clear what the alias is referring to. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
What happens when someone performs under several different names during the course of their membership? For example, [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/4d61abe3-ce6d-4383-b2cd-8b4491496549.html Tim Commerford] of Rage Against the Machine is credited as "Timmy C." on their self-titled album, but "Y.tim.K." on "The Battle of Los Angeles". My suggestion would be that this case should be handled by just choosing something common-sense, like the most widely-known name, or in this case just using the legal name is fine, since it's fairly clear what the alias is referring to. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Seems reasonable to me - I think the common sense approach is the right one. --[[User:JohnCarter|JohnCarter]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Seems reasonable to me - I think the common sense approach is the right one. --[[User:JohnCarter|JohnCarter]]
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This was discussed & agreed upon in [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2005-April/thread.html#20279 April 2005]. There was however no firm ruling, so it was briefly discussed by the [[Style Council|StyleCouncil]] & agreed upon in [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2005-May/thread.html#127 May 2005].
This was discussed & agreed upon in [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2005-April/thread.html#20279 April 2005]. There was however no firm ruling, so it was briefly discussed by the [[Style Council|StyleCouncil]] & agreed upon in [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2005-May/thread.html#127 May 2005].
=== Founder ===
* What's the best use of the [[Date Relationship Attribute|DateRelationshipAttribute]] to specify that someone was a founding member of a band, or was in the band when it broke up? I think this question is worth having a separate wiki page for, [[Founding Member Dates Question|FoundingMemberDatesQuestion]]. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]

Latest revision as of 18:37, 21 October 2011

Open Issues

Role in band

  • It would be nice to specify what instrument someone played in a band, not just their membership. This raises questions concerning ArtistRoleInheritance. This might also be an issue for CollaborationRelationshipType. This is now an Advanced Relationship Type Proposal.
  • Hi, I was reading the comment about specifying the instruments someone in a band plays. I have added this subcatagory to my proposed SupportingMusicianRelationshipType. This proposal aimed at artists who play on albums (or tour with) solo artist, as people are currently listed as members of other 'people', which is quite messy and inappropriate. Please check it out.

--EdKaye

I (and shep) have implemented this on test:

  • artist is/was a{additional:n additional} {instrument} performing member of artist, artist has/had {instrument} performing member artist
  • artist is/was a{additional:n additional} {vocal} vocal performing member of artist, artist has/had {additional} {vocal} vocal performing member artist

check it out. ~mo

Group a member of Band

Resolved Issues

Performance Names

What happens when someone performs under several different names during the course of their membership? For example, Tim Commerford of Rage Against the Machine is credited as "Timmy C." on their self-titled album, but "Y.tim.K." on "The Battle of Los Angeles". My suggestion would be that this case should be handled by just choosing something common-sense, like the most widely-known name, or in this case just using the legal name is fine, since it's fairly clear what the alias is referring to. --MatthewExon

  • Seems reasonable to me - I think the common sense approach is the right one. --JohnCarter

This was discussed & agreed upon in April 2005. There was however no firm ruling, so it was briefly discussed by the StyleCouncil & agreed upon in May 2005.

Founder