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Another way could be to use [[Performance Name|PerformanceName]] but [[Same Artist With Different Names]] says "Note that neither [[PerformanceName]]s nor [[LegalName]]s apply to groups" at the very start. -- [[User:ClutchEr2|ClutchEr2]]
Another way could be to use [[Performance Name|PerformanceName]] but [[Same Artist With Different Names]] says "Note that neither [[PerformanceName]]s nor [[LegalName]]s apply to groups" at the very start. -- [[User:ClutchEr2|ClutchEr2]]
:We're certainly free to change that aspect of [[Same Artist With Different Names]] if it needs changing. [[Performance Name Relationship Type|PerformanceNameRelationshipType]] does seem like the most appropriate way to do this to me; at least when there's no lineup change at the same time. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]
:We're certainly free to change that aspect of [[Same Artist With Different Names]] if it needs changing. [[Performance Name Relationship Type|PerformanceNameRelationshipType]] does seem like the most appropriate way to do this to me; at least when there's no lineup change at the same time. --[[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]

==Parentage of Bands==

It is currently an [[Open Style Issue|OpenStyleIssue]] as to whether this relationship should apply to bands. Discuss [[Talk:Parent Relationship Type|here]] or see the discussion on [[Linking Different Artist Names|LinkingDifferentArtistNames]].

Examples include:

[http://musicbrainz.org/artist/41337bb4-2ca9-42a9-8409-daf0081f004e.html Smile] is a band that broke up and later reformed (more or less) as [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0383dadf-2a4e-4d10-a46a-e9e041da8eb3.html Queen]. So far, the consensus [http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2859073 appears] to be heading towards ''not'' counting this as a parent/child relationship. -- [[User:MatthewExon|MatthewExon]]

Another example is [http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2855975 here] and for now it's proposed to be solved as an alias: [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=2546 Marillion] did one of their first gig ever as "Skyline Drifters". In this case we probably will not have any album with that name.

Again [http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2855935 here] three of five Marillion member did a spin-off tour as "Los Trios Marillos " without disbanding original band: probably it's cleaner to menage this with AR between members.

Latest revision as of 11:48, 20 March 2010

There are some unusual classes of parents. In some cases these could result in someone having more than two parents, which might look weird unless we can distinguish them on the website somehow, using an attribute or something:

  • An attribute to indicate a stepchild would fall into this category as well (Max Cavalera vs. Richie Cavalera) -- Prodoc 15:23, 05 February 2007 (UTC) Adopted parent Biological parent Surrogate mother

The phrasing "is the parent of" is weird, and should probably be "is a parent of". As of right now people pretty much always have more than one...

Regarding bands

Another way could be to use PerformanceName but Same Artist With Different Names says "Note that neither PerformanceNames nor LegalNames apply to groups" at the very start. -- ClutchEr2

We're certainly free to change that aspect of Same Artist With Different Names if it needs changing. PerformanceNameRelationshipType does seem like the most appropriate way to do this to me; at least when there's no lineup change at the same time. --MatthewExon

Parentage of Bands

It is currently an OpenStyleIssue as to whether this relationship should apply to bands. Discuss here or see the discussion on LinkingDifferentArtistNames.

Examples include:

Smile is a band that broke up and later reformed (more or less) as Queen. So far, the consensus appears to be heading towards not counting this as a parent/child relationship. -- MatthewExon

Another example is here and for now it's proposed to be solved as an alias: Marillion did one of their first gig ever as "Skyline Drifters". In this case we probably will not have any album with that name.

Again here three of five Marillion member did a spin-off tour as "Los Trios Marillos " without disbanding original band: probably it's cleaner to menage this with AR between members.