Talk:Release Group

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Additional scenarios


Transliterations and psueduo releases would be merged, because it's essentially just the packaging around the album that has changed. But what about different audio translations, do they deserve their own release group? e.g. If an artist records an album in English, and then the same album in French. What if the "translated" release also has additional/new material? --navap 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I really hope that pseudo-releases (either for translation or transliteration) will be a non-issue with NGS. Currently, they probably should be in the release group. (subgrouping would be really nice :(). An album released in different languages is obviously a separate release with a separate release group -- lyrics would be different, so we can't group those. pronik 21:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I've added both of these to the merged page now. Let's see if there's any debate on the lists? Voiceinsideyou 15:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
"2 in 1" releases

Is it worth mentioning that when two separate albums are reissued together for their 20th annivesary that it would form it's own third release group, and not be merged with one of the two earlies release groups? --navap 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

We'd have a perfect solution if one release could be assigned to several RGs. Otherwise, yes, mention it. Could be easily confused. pronik 21:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it worth mentioning that each release of a musical would probably be a different release group, unless we are sure it's the same cast/year and it' only a re-issue/remaster. --navap 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, a really important remark. We probably need to make this more general -- where do we put a re-recorded release, which is not just remixed or cleaned, but really re-sung and re-played)? I'd think it'd be a separate RG, just like Musicals pronik 21:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you have any examples of this? At first glance I wouldn't have thought we would even keep the releases separate, but just add the release event information and merge the two. --navap 17:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Would different "versions" of the soundtrack belong in the same release group? e.g. One version is the "pop song" soundtrack, one is the score, and one is the expanded score. --navap 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd say none, since it's not a version of another album. It's rather a Film<->Sound AR which every soundtrack release could have. Then you could easily group those releases, but via AR, not via RG. pronik 21:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Good point, I think we need to make use of are release-url ARs better, instead of saying "Has an IMDB page at" maybe we should make the user aware that any other releases that have stemmed from that movie can be found by clicking "here", and that same thought could be applied to quite a few release-ARs that get multiple releases attached to the same URL. --navap 17:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Popular books are sometimes read by multiple narrators, and in various languages, take a look at Harry Potter's J.K. Rowling's page for a good example. If an author releases a new book, is that the same as a band saying that they're releasing a new album? An author can be considered an artist, and here at MB we definitely already do by accepting audiobook submissions.
It's a little abstract, but the various readings of an audiobook we have in the database all contain the same "lyrics" (words), and "tracks" (chapters), the only difference is the artist who is doing the vocal performance. Sure there are abridged versions of a book that would contain different lyrics and tracks, but then there are also "abridged" albums (promos and such). I think audiobooks should be merged, although I'm not sure about cases where the translated version of the book has been narrated. --navap 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Merging release groups

The last paragraph talks about only needing to merge releasegroups, is an article needed to explain the process, or is the process pretty self explanatory? --navap 15:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


How should these scenarios be incorporated into the main article? A Q/A section perhaps? --navap 09:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

A little reminder that I (or anyone) will have to manually merge the release groups that are linked to in the article and update the links from test to the live server, making sure that the MBIDs have indeed stayed the same. --navap 17:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)