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This page should help you to tell similar languages apart, even if you do no speak these languages.
possibly a [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]] but as we all know, I'm not so good with those anyway so:


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how do I TellSimilarLanguagesApart
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">If you know some of these (or other) languages, please try to explain thier difference, come up with sentence-examples or straight up grammar rules that make the distinction between languages easier decipherable for those of us not speaking those languages.
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==Scandinavian Languages==
==Scandinavian Languages==


How do I tell if something is Norwegian, Danish, or Swedish?
''How do I tell if something is Norwegian, Danish, or Swedish?''


this is pretty much a touch and go case (like all languages) but take for example the sentence
This is pretty much a touch and go case, but take for example the sentence: "Until night becomes day"
{| border="1"
|-
| Danish: || Tills natt bliver dag
|-
| Norwegian: || Til natt blir dag
|-
| Swedish: || Tills natten blivit dag
|}


Furthermore it is worth noting that the Norwegians and Danes write with the vowels æ ø å, but the Swedes use ä ö å.
'Until night becomes day'
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Tills natt bliver dag - in Danish Til natt blir dag - in Norwegian Tills natten blivit dag - in Swedish
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[[Image:Idea.png]] Mo, could you add a table with articles and pronouns here, like we have in the Latin section?
furthermore it is worth noting that the Norwegians and Danes write with the vowels æ ø å, but the Swedes use ä ö å


==East Asian Languages==
==Chinese / Japanese / Korean ?==

''How do I tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, vietnamese and Indonesian?''


Telling the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Korean isn't difficult if you know what to look for.
Telling the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Korean isn't difficult if you know what to look for.
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===Vietnamese and Indonesian===
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Both languages are written with the latin alphabet. Vietnamese normally has a ton of accents, Indonesian tends to have longer words (and no accents).


==Latin Languages==
Further down this page is some idea of other 'similar languages' I've placed them all in italics because it's generally a mess anyway. I am unsure of for example polish should be a 'german language' (or even if that's the name that should be used) or where Dutch fits in, also this page needs intervingling also there are '''a lot''' more languages that could be confused for another language.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Polish is slavic, like Czech, Slovak, Slovene, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, etc. --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]]
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''How do I tell if something is Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, Catalan or Romanian?''
Basically I would like if people could come to this page and try order out languages and especially come up with sentence-examples or straight up grammar rules that made the destination between languages easier decipherable for those of us not speaking that (or those) language(s)
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I'm quite good at guessing languages, I'll try and help explain how my brain does it. :) --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]]
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French uses pronouns a lot more than Spanish. Below is a table with pronouns in latin languages. If you speak a latin language that is not in the table, please add it.
I am not a professor of my own language or the Scandinavian languages either. please help if I have made any errors here to.


French can have a cedilla on the c (ç), an accute accent on e (é), a grave accent on a, e and u (à, è, ù) or a diaeresis or circumflex on any vowel (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü, â, ê, î, ô, û). Also, no verbs that I can think of end in -o (like the Spanish 1st person singular present tense).
Lastly this page also needs to be wiki-textformated.


Apart from grammar, distinguishing Italian could be quite simple: almost all (in fact all) words end with a vowel (a e i o u or à è ì ò ù). Words in other latin language often end differently.
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===Table of Pronouns and Articles===


{| border="1"
''[[Latin Languages|LatinLanguages]]''
|-
| English (for comparison) || French || Spanish
|-
| I || je, me, moi, m' || yo
|-
| you || tu, te, toi, t' || tu
|-
| he, she, it || il, elle, se, s', lui || ello, ella
|-
| we || nous, on || nos(otros)
|-
| you (plural) || vous || vos(otros) |
|-
| they || ils, elles || ellos, ellas
|-
| and || et || y
|-
| the || le, la, les, l' || el, la
|-
| a || un, une || un, una
|-
| not || ne ... pas, n'... pas || no
|}

[[Image:Attention.png]] Note that Spanish was added by [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] who does not speak Spanish natively. [[Delete When Cooked|DeleteWhenCooked]]

==Germanic Languages==

''How do I tell if something is German (German, Austrian, and Swiss), or Dutch?''

Dutch is spoken in The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium. It can be distinguished by the use of the words 'de' (de vrouw), 'het' (het huis) and 'een' (een persoon), meaning 'the' (the woman), 'the' (the house) and 'a' (a person) (or 'one' (one person)). It's not unusual for words to have more than 2 vowels in a row. e.g. '''s Nachts na tweeën''. More hints at [[Capitalization Standard Dutch|CapitalizationStandardDutch]].

===Table of Pronouns and Articles===


''How do I tell if something is Spanish, Portuguese, French or Italian?''
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I have never studied Italian nor Portuguese, but French uses pronouns a lot more than Spanish. Maybe it would be good to list things like that. For French, there's je, tu, il, elle, on, nous, vous, ils and elles. "And" is "et" and the articles are le, la, les and un and une. French can have a cedilla on the c (ç), an acute accent on e (é), a grave accent on a, e and u (à, è, ù) or a diaeresis or circumflex on any vowel (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü, â, ê, î, ô, û) (does y count? : No--[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]]). Also, no verbs that I can think of end in -o (like the Spanish 1st person singular present tense). There's also Catalan and Romanian which are Latin/Romance languages ---[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] Apart from grammar, distinguishing Italian could be quite simple: almost all (in fact all) words end with a vowel (aeiou or àèìòù). Words in other latin language often end differently. --[[User:ClutchEr2|ClutchEr2]]
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Perhaps a table of pronouns and articles could help (Please correct my Spanish if some of it is wrong. Also is there ''any'' roman language that has neutrum?--[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]]:
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{| border="1"
{| border="1"
|-
|-
| English (for comparison) || French || Spanish || Norwegian
| English (for comparison) || German || Dutch
|-
|-
| I || je, me, moi, m' || yo || jeg
| I || ich ||
|-
|-
| you || tu, te, toi, t' || tu || du
| you || du ||
|-
|-
| he, she, it || il, elle, se, s', lui || ello, ella || han, hun, det
| he, she, it || er, sie, es ||
|-
|-
| we || nous, on || nos(otros) || vi
| we || wir ||
|-
|-
| you (plural) || vous || vos(otros) || dere
| you (plural) || ihr || |
|-
|-
| they || ils, elles || ellos, ellas || dem
| they || sie ||
|-
|-
| and || et || y || og
| and || und ||
|-
|-
| the || le, la, les, l' || el, la || -en, -a, -et
| the || der, die, das || de, het
|-
|-
| a || un, une || un, una || en, ei, et
| a || ein, eine || een
|-
|-
| not || ne ... pas, n'... pas || no || ikke
| not || nicht ||
|}
|}


[[Image:Attention.png]] Note that Dutch was added to the table by [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] who does not speak it natively. [[Delete When Cooked|DeleteWhenCooked]]
''[[Germanic Languages|GermanicLanguages]]''


''How do I tell if something is German, Austrian or Polish?''
''How do I tell Germanic languages from Scandinavian languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish...)?''
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Isn't German spoken in Austria? This should probably be German, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Icelandic... --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] Dutch is spoken in The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium. It can be distinguished by the use of the words 'de' (de vrouw), 'het' (het huis) and 'een' (een persoon), meaning 'the' (the woman), 'the' (the house) and 'a' (a person) (or 'one' (one person)). It's not unusual for words to have more than 2 vowels in a row. e.g. '''s Nachts na tweeën''. More hints at [[Capitalization Standard Dutch|CapitalizationStandardDutch]]. --[[User:Zout|zout]]
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==Slavic Languages==
''how do i tell if something is Japanese, Chinese, Korean or Vietnamese, how about Indonesian?''

<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">(Covered CJK further up the page) Vietnamese is written with the latin alphabet normally with a ton of accents, Indonesian tends to have longer words (and no accents). --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]]
''How do I tell if something is Polish, Czech, Slovak, Slovene, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian...?
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Revision as of 12:58, 7 August 2005

This page should help you to tell similar languages apart, even if you do no speak these languages.

Contents:

  • If you know some of these (or other) languages, please try to explain thier difference, come up with sentence-examples or straight up grammar rules that make the distinction between languages easier decipherable for those of us not speaking those languages.

Scandinavian Languages

How do I tell if something is Norwegian, Danish, or Swedish?

This is pretty much a touch and go case, but take for example the sentence: "Until night becomes day"

Danish: Tills natt bliver dag
Norwegian: Til natt blir dag
Swedish: Tills natten blivit dag

Furthermore it is worth noting that the Norwegians and Danes write with the vowels æ ø å, but the Swedes use ä ö å.

Idea.png Mo, could you add a table with articles and pronouns here, like we have in the Latin section?

East Asian Languages

How do I tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, vietnamese and Indonesian?

Telling the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Korean isn't difficult if you know what to look for.

Chinese

Chinese is written entirely in Chinese characters (also known as han characters or hanzi in Chinese). These are the most complex fullwidth characters. If there's no hiragana, katakana or hangul used, it's highly likely that it's Chinese.

Japanese

Japanese also uses Chinese characters (known as kanji in Japanese), but hiragana and katakana are also used. Both hiragana and katakana only have 46 basic characters each, so you're more likely to see the same characters used more than once.

Korean

Korean now uses very few Chinese characters (none at all in North Korea) and it would be quite rare to find Korean CDs with Chinese characters. Instead, Korean uses hangul. Although the number of actual characters is rather high like with Chinese characters, hangul syllables are made up of letters in a way which is rather like playing Tetris with your letters. For example, ㅅ (s) and ㅏ (a) give 사 (sa) and adding ㅇ (ng) gives 상 (sang). (Can people see these OK? --Nikki)

The characters for the word "of" are usually rather common, they are 的, の and 의 in Chinese, Japanese and Korean respectively.

This bit could do with some example sentences, but the only sentence I can do in all three is "My cat is black"... --Nikki

  • hmm. it would be neat if you added that sentence tough ;) ~mo

Vietnamese and Indonesian

Both languages are written with the latin alphabet. Vietnamese normally has a ton of accents, Indonesian tends to have longer words (and no accents).

Latin Languages

How do I tell if something is Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, Catalan or Romanian?

French uses pronouns a lot more than Spanish. Below is a table with pronouns in latin languages. If you speak a latin language that is not in the table, please add it.

French can have a cedilla on the c (ç), an accute accent on e (é), a grave accent on a, e and u (à, è, ù) or a diaeresis or circumflex on any vowel (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü, â, ê, î, ô, û). Also, no verbs that I can think of end in -o (like the Spanish 1st person singular present tense).

Apart from grammar, distinguishing Italian could be quite simple: almost all (in fact all) words end with a vowel (a e i o u or à è ì ò ù). Words in other latin language often end differently.

Table of Pronouns and Articles

English (for comparison) French Spanish
I je, me, moi, m' yo
you tu, te, toi, t' tu
he, she, it il, elle, se, s', lui ello, ella
we nous, on nos(otros)
you (plural) vous
they ils, elles ellos, ellas
and et y
the le, la, les, l' el, la
a un, une un, una
not ne ... pas, n'... pas no

Attention.png Note that Spanish was added by DonRedman who does not speak Spanish natively. DeleteWhenCooked

Germanic Languages

How do I tell if something is German (German, Austrian, and Swiss), or Dutch?

Dutch is spoken in The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium. It can be distinguished by the use of the words 'de' (de vrouw), 'het' (het huis) and 'een' (een persoon), meaning 'the' (the woman), 'the' (the house) and 'a' (a person) (or 'one' (one person)). It's not unusual for words to have more than 2 vowels in a row. e.g. 's Nachts na tweeën. More hints at CapitalizationStandardDutch.

Table of Pronouns and Articles

English (for comparison) German Dutch
I ich
you du
he, she, it er, sie, es
we wir
you (plural) ihr
they sie
and und
the der, die, das de, het
a ein, eine een
not nicht

Attention.png Note that Dutch was added to the table by DonRedman who does not speak it natively. DeleteWhenCooked

How do I tell Germanic languages from Scandinavian languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish...)?

Slavic Languages

How do I tell if something is Polish, Czech, Slovak, Slovene, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian...?

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