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kashmir (saran)<br> |
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south afghanistan (sarang)<br> |
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⚫ | .type of lute, evolved from the rabab includes this and the ghaychak [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1521728 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaychak en] [https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/d50ba107-4930-4e0b-8b3f-ffbea4a1ade1 mb] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-371 jira]< |
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<td> in its family evolved from the kobyz [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1778051 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobyz en] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-439 jira]. (kobyz, ghaychak, sarangi)<br></td> |
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Origin: India, 13th century.<br> |
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Strings/Courses: 7/7<br> |
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Further notes: 3 drone strings, 5 melody strings, usually 12 sympathetic strings. Sympathetic strings are tuned depending on the raga being played. Steel strings.<br> |
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Scale Length: 680-870mm<br> |
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The Sitar is a Hindustani Classical Instrument. <br> |
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'''rabab'''-> sarod<br> |
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double chested '''rabab''' (pearshaped lute rubab)<br> |
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long-necked rabab (spikefiddle rebab)<br> |
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* spikefiddle, to wit the ghijak [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q54995817 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghijak en] [https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/0d766870-3021-47ce-bd51-78d2d2484e1b mb] and the [[User:CatCat/k*m*n*|kemenche]] belong... |
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* short necked fiddle boat-shaped (appears similar to double chested ones and may these pre-evolution) |
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* long necked barbed lute (pearshaped lutes?!) kamanche, ravaj, read vina |
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* double chested lutes, herein the sarinda and sarangi families. |
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From-Tri-tantri-Veena-to-Sitar/articleshow/21391436.cms and images on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritantri_vina and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setar (compare image on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar ) makes it clear that it is the setar that is evolved from the tritantri veena - the sitar https://beta.musicbrainz.org/instrument/9290b2c1-97c3-4355-a26f-c6dba89cf8ff/ an unrelated (but possible distant cousin) was *named* after the Persian setar. |
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From-Tri-tantri-Veena-to-Sitar/articleshow/21391436.cms and images on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritantri_vina and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setar (compare image on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar ) makes it clear that it is the setar that is evolved from the tritantri veena - the sitar https://beta.musicbrainz.org/instrument/9290b2c1-97c3-4355-a26f-c6dba89cf8ff/ an unrelated (but possible distant cousin) was *named* after the Persian setar. |
Revision as of 12:47, 4 February 2020
Veena or vina
Veena:
Cell 1 | Cell 2 |
sarangi wd en mb hindustani classical music, rajasthani folk sarangi, nepali sarangi wd en MB!(?) |
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.type of lute, evolved from the rabab includes this and the ghaychak wd en mb jira | Cell 2 |
in its family evolved from the kobyz wd en jira. (kobyz, ghaychak, sarangi) |
Cell 2 |
sarinda wd en jira, is related to and may derive from central asian shamans-fiddle qobuz (kobys?) widespread:
rajasthan (surinda) three main strings
manipur north-east india (sananta) |
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sitar wd en mb hindustani sitar seems to have more in common with large uzbek dutar wd en mb than persian setar wd en mb
other sitar types: (distribution and related features suggest a common development)
sada sitar (plain or practice sitar) |
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surbahar wd en mb effectively a bass sitar. invented c1820 by ghulam muhammad |
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Sursingar wd en mb hybrid plucked north indian classical lute invented c1800 by jaffar khan (seniya family) resonator, front and bridge from sitar, upperpart of neck/pegboard like the rabab, tuned and played like rabab, plectrum like sitar. |
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svaraj fretless long necked plucked lute from bangladesj, it is a bangl version of the bengali/northindian dotara, it ought to be spelled saraj (see esraj) |
Cell 2 |
taus mayerivina |
Cell 2 |
dhodro banam
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Cell 2 |
bin-sitar | Cell 2 |
kamaica | Cell 2 |
ravanhattha | Cell 2 |
khuur (mongolian fiddles) | Cell 2 |
Cell 1 | Cell 2 |
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sara
surs
suba
sita
saro
sari
banam(rebs)
rabab-> sarod
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From-Tri-tantri-Veena-to-Sitar/articleshow/21391436.cms and images on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritantri_vina and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setar (compare image on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar ) makes it clear that it is the setar that is evolved from the tritantri veena - the sitar https://beta.musicbrainz.org/instrument/9290b2c1-97c3-4355-a26f-c6dba89cf8ff/ an unrelated (but possible distant cousin) was *named* after the Persian setar.