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|class = Musical Association
|class = Musical Association


|exampleDescription1 = A basic conductor relationship, with no attributes
|linkedFrom1 = Artist
|linkedFrom1 = Artist
|linkText1 = is/was a conductor for
|linkText1 = is/was a conductor for
|linkedTo1 = Artist
|linkedTo1 = Artist
|exampleFrom1 = [[Artist:86ed58c9-176d-4dab-9490-452c433ab76b|Joseph Rescigno]]
|exampleTo1 = [[Artist:da6a8cfb-35da-44a8-b6cf-5f7482eea339|Florentine Opera Company]] <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Rescigno</ref>


|linkedFrom2 = Artist
|linkedFrom2 = Artist
|linkText2 = has/had conductor(s)
|linkText2 = has/had conductor(s)
|linkedTo2 = Artist
|linkedTo2 = Artist
|exampleTo2 = [[Artist:86ed58c9-176d-4dab-9490-452c433ab76b|Joseph Rescigno]]
|exampleFrom2 = [[Artist:da6a8cfb-35da-44a8-b6cf-5f7482eea339|Florentine Opera Company]]

|exampleDescription3 = Assistant conductor

|exampleDescription5 = Associate conductor

|exampleDescription7 = Conductor emeritus

|exampleDescription9 = Principal conductor

|exampleDescription11 = A conductor for only specific instrument(s) or instrument sections within the group

|exampleDescription16 = <br/>Correct use of the 'guest' attribute for a conductor holding the position of 'guest conductor'...
|altLinkText16 = is/was a guest conductor for
|exampleFrom16 = [[Artist:86ed58c9-176d-4dab-9490-452c433ab76b|Joseph Rescigno]]
|exampleTo16 = [[Artist:1e12f254-1d67-4c62-83d6-be1fcb108dd8|Virginia Opera]] between 2010-02 and 2010-02 <ref>[http://www.dailypress.com/entertainment/arts/dp-opera-conductor,0,4867370.story Virginia Opera hires guest conductor for "The Valkyrie"]</ref>

|altLinkText17 = is/was a guest conductor for
|exampleFrom17 = [[Artist:c0c3e369-58b3-44ff-94cf-f09af1117980|Tõnu Kaljuste]]
|exampleTo17 = [[Artist:7bf7b9f1-3c66-48db-beee-d4b971f1362d|Radiokören]]<ref>[http://sverigesradio.se/cgi-bin/berwaldhallen/program/artikel.asp?ProgramID=2555&Artikel=1186614 Tõnu Kaljuste, Former Guest Conductor (biography)]</ref>

|altLinkText18 = is/was a principal guest conductor for
|exampleFrom18 = [[Artist:Tadaaki Otaka|46b26f79-20a4-45d5-82ff-4adf7f4284f6]]
|exampleTo18 = [[Artist:d50f4a34-bee8-42ed-9259-e6e99297279a|Melbourne Symphony Orchestra]] from 2010 to present <ref>[http://www.mso.com.au/cpa/htm/htm_article.asp?page_id=12 About MSO: TADAAKI OTAKA - PRINCIPAL GUEST CONDUCTOR]</ref>

|exampleDescription19 = ...or holding the position of 'visiting conductor'
|altLinkText19 = is/was a guest conductor for
|exampleFrom19 = [[Artist:590ee98b-e6d7-45d4-9c09-3e030fcbe1fa|Giancarlo Andretta]]
|exampleTo19 = [[Artist:ccb107ac-cde9-453b-946e-f951d5d7d2ee|GöteborgsOperan]] between 2010 and 2013 <ref>[http://en.opera.se/press/2009/giancarlo-andretta-forste-gastdirigent/ Giancarlo Andretta will be first visiting conductor at GöteborgsOperan.]</ref>


|attributeDescriptionBegin = This indicates the first date that the [[Artist|artist]] held the conductor position.
|attributeDescriptionBegin = This indicates the first date that the [[Artist|artist]] held the conductor position.
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<li>[[Artist|Artist]] has/had <nowiki>{{instrument}}</nowiki> conductor(s) [[Artist]]</ul>
<li>[[Artist|Artist]] has/had <nowiki>{{instrument}}</nowiki> conductor(s) [[Artist]]</ul>
|attributePage5 = Instrument Relationship Attribute
|attributePage5 = Instrument Relationship Attribute

|attributeName6 = guest
|attributeDescription6 = This indicates that the conductor held a 'guest conductor' or 'visiting conductor' '''position'''. It does '''not''' indicate merely that a conductor was given a "guest conductor" credit on a particular release, release group, recording, or track.
<dd>'''Link Phrases:'''
<ul><li>[[Artist]] is/was a guest conductor for [[Artist]]
<li>[[Artist|Artist]] has/had guest conductor(s) [[Artist]]</ul>
|attributePage6 = Guest Relationship Attribute


|summary = This indicates that an [[Artist|artist]] is, or was, a conductor for an [[Artist|artist]].
|summary = This indicates that an [[Artist|artist]] is, or was, a conductor for an [[Artist|artist]].
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:: This indicates an [[Artist|artist]] who is held in extremely high regard. '''Caution:''' While this title ''can'' be used by a conductor, it may also be used by [[Composer Relationship Type|Composers]], [[Performer Relationship Type|performers]], [[Proposal:Music Director Position Relationship Type Proposal|music directors]], [[Proposal:Teacher Position Relationship Type Proposal|music instructors]], [[WikiPedia:Impresario|impresarios]], and even, occasionally, [[WikiPedia:Prompter|opera prompters]]. Please ensure that the position actually described is that of a conductor before using this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]].
:: This indicates an [[Artist|artist]] who is held in extremely high regard. '''Caution:''' While this title ''can'' be used by a conductor, it may also be used by [[Composer Relationship Type|Composers]], [[Performer Relationship Type|performers]], [[Proposal:Music Director Position Relationship Type Proposal|music directors]], [[Proposal:Teacher Position Relationship Type Proposal|music instructors]], [[WikiPedia:Impresario|impresarios]], and even, occasionally, [[WikiPedia:Prompter|opera prompters]]. Please ensure that the position actually described is that of a conductor before using this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]].


|style = * The position (and any attribute used) should be documented; it must not be assumed.
|style = # The position (and any attribute used) should be documented; it must not be assumed.
* At any one time, an [[Artist|artist]] may have more than one conductor, but never more than one principal conductor.
# At any one time, an [[Artist|artist]] may have more than one conductor, but never more than one principal conductor.
* A conductor must be a person [[Artist|artist]].
# A conductor must be a person [[Artist|artist]].
* The [[Artist|artist]] conducted by the conductor must be a group [[Artist|artist]].
# The [[Artist|artist]] conducted by the conductor must be a group [[Artist|artist]].
* Only one of the attributes 'assistant', 'associate', 'emeritus', or 'principal' should be used at the same time.
# Only one of the attributes 'assistant', 'associate', 'emeritus', or 'principal' should be used at the same time.
* If the [[WikiPedia:Conducting|conductor]] position specifically involves the training, leading, and/or conducting of a ''choir'' or ''chorus'', then while the action is still 'conducting', the more correct title is 'choirmaster', not 'conductor'. [[Proposal:Choirmaster Position Relationship Type Proposal|Choirmaster Position Relationship Type]] should be used to describe this position, and ''not'' this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]].
# If the [[WikiPedia:Conducting|conductor]] position specifically involves the training, leading, and/or conducting of a ''choir'' or ''chorus'', then while the action is still 'conducting', the more correct title is 'choirmaster', not 'conductor'. [[Proposal:Choirmaster Position Relationship Type Proposal|Choirmaster Position Relationship Type]] should be used to describe this position, and ''not'' this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]].
:* In some cases, both an orchestra and a choir coexist, and are conducted by the same [[Artist|artist]]. In such cases, both this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]] ''and'' [[Proposal:Choirmaster Position Relationship Type Proposal|Choirmaster Position Relationship Type]] should be used.
#* In some cases, both an orchestra and a choir coexist, and are conducted by the same [[Artist|artist]]. In such cases, both this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]] ''and'' [[Proposal:Choirmaster Position Relationship Type Proposal|Choirmaster Position Relationship Type]] should be used.
* This [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]] describes a [[WikiPedia:Conducting|conductor]] ''position'' one [[Artist|artist]] holds with another [[Artist|artist]]. [[Conductor Relationship Type]], ''not'' this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]], should be used to describe the fact that an [[Artist|artist]] ''conducted'' on a recorded [[Track|track]] or [[Release|release]].
# This [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]] describes a [[WikiPedia:Conducting|conductor]] ''position'' one [[Artist|artist]] holds with another [[Artist|artist]]. [[Conductor Relationship Type]], ''not'' this [[:Category:Relationship Type|relationship type]], should be used to describe the fact that an [[Artist|artist]] ''conducted'' on a recorded [[Track|track]] or [[Release|release]].
# '''Do not infer attributes.''' An inexperienced conductor is not automatically an assistant or associate conductor, nor is a very experienced conductor automatically a conductor emeritus. Likewise, 'guest conductor' is a specific position title; simply because a conductor is credited with "guest conducting" on a release, that conductor '''does not''' automatically become a 'guest conductor'.
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==Notes and references==
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Revision as of 03:59, 17 December 2010


Status: This page describes an active advanced relationship proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-266
Champion: BrianFreud
Current status: RFC
Initial Discussion



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