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south afghanistan (sarang)<br>
south afghanistan (sarang)<br>
jammu (saranga)<br></td>
jammu (saranga)<br></td>
<td>https://graphic.nobody.jp/musical_picture/sarangi_india_2.jpg</td></tr>
<td>https://graphic.nobody.jp/musical_picture/sarangi_india_2.jpg</td>
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<td>nepali sarangi [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7423131 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarangi_(Nepali) en] MB!(?)<br>
.type of lute, evolved from the rabab includes this and the</td>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_s/sarangi_nepal.gif</td>
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<td>ghaychak [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1521728 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaychak en] [https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/d50ba107-4930-4e0b-8b3f-ffbea4a1ade1 mb] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-371 jira]</td>
<td>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Ghaychak.jpg</td>
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<td>in its family evolved from the kobyz [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1778051 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobyz en] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-439 jira]. (kobyz, ghaychak, sarangi)<br></td>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_k/kobyz.gif</td>
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<td>'''sarinda''' [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q348878 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarinda en] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-856 jira], is related to and may derive from central asian shamans-fiddle qobuz (kobys?)<br>
<td>'''sarinda''' [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q348878 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarinda en] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-856 jira], is related to and may derive from central asian shamans-fiddle qobuz (kobys?)<br>
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: ''bengal (variant long necked svaraj)(belongs to sitar maybe?)''<br>
: ''bengal (variant long necked svaraj)(belongs to sitar maybe?)''<br>
manipur north-east india (sananta)<br>
manipur north-east india (sananta)<br>
east & north india (banam)<br>
: east & north india (banam)<br>
nepal (sarangi)<br></td>
: nepal (sarangi)<br></td>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_s/sarinda.gif</td>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_s/sarinda.gif</td>
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<td>nepali sarangi [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7423131 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarangi_(Nepali) en] MB!(?)<br>
<td>dhodro banam
type of lute, evolved from the <strikeout>rabab</strikeout> includes this and the</td>
: kachva sitar<br>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_s/sarangi_nepal.gif</td>
: surbahar<br></td>
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<td>ghaychak [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1521728 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghaychak en] [https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/d50ba107-4930-4e0b-8b3f-ffbea4a1ade1 mb] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-371 jira]</td>
<td>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Ghaychak.jpg</td>
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<td>in its family evolved from the kobyz [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1778051 wd] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobyz en] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-439 jira]. (kobyz, ghaychak, sarangi)<br></td>
<td>https://digitalstamp.suppa.jp/musical_instruments_k/kobyz.gif</td>
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<td>dhodro banam aka Santal lute<br>
east & north india (dhodro banam)
</td>
<td>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Dhodro_Banam.jpg/295px-Dhodro_Banam.jpg</td>
<td>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Dhodro_Banam.jpg/295px-Dhodro_Banam.jpg</td>
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<td>Cell 1</td>
<td>kachva sitar</td>
<td>Cell 2</td>
<td>Cell 2</td>
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Revision as of 14:33, 4 February 2020

Veena or vina

Veena:

Cell 1 Cell 2
sarangi wd en mb

hindustani classical music, rajasthani folk sarangi,
sarangi type:
kashmir (saran)
south afghanistan (sarang)

jammu (saranga)
sarangi_india_2.jpg
sarinda wd en jira, is related to and may derive from central asian shamans-fiddle qobuz (kobys?)

widespread:
afghanistan, pakistan and north india (sarinda)

pakistani baluchistan (saroz)
iranian baluchistan (sorud (soruz)) derived from qobuz but more like indian types in use and construction, used for ritual
pakistani sind (surando) sindi and baluchi models have deeper upper bouts than sarinda

rajasthan (surinda) three main strings
Assam (sareja)

bengal (variant long necked svaraj)(belongs to sitar maybe?)

manipur north-east india (sananta)

east & north india (banam)
nepal (sarangi)
sarinda.gif
nepali sarangi wd en MB!(?)
type of lute, evolved from the <strikeout>rabab</strikeout> includes this and the
sarangi_nepal.gif
ghaychak wd en mb jira https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Ghaychak.jpg
in its family evolved from the kobyz wd en jira. (kobyz, ghaychak, sarangi)
kobyz.gif
dhodro banam aka Santal lute

east & north india (dhodro banam)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Dhodro_Banam.jpg/295px-Dhodro_Banam.jpg
kachva sitar Cell 2
sitar wd en mb

hindustani sitar seems to have more in common with large uzbek dutar wd en mb than persian setar wd en mb
sitar and souther tambura wd en MB! (how relates to drone tanbura? wd en mb) to be evolved from the dutar?
also Sarasvati vina from this?
sitar has frets, tambura not
terms "fretted and unfretted tambura" used to distinguish between sitar and fretless drone taMbura

sursotta (transportable drone tambura)

other sitar types: (distribution and related features suggest a common development)
carnatic sitar
kashmiri setar
afghan tanbur
gujarati sittarae(poss)

modern:
most common: Hindustani concert sitar aka tarafdar sitar (singel gourd and duble gourd)

has sympathetic strings, this is mostly commonly just called sitar and is the standard made

sada sitar (plain or practice sitar)
kachva sitar muhammad khan developed the surbahar from this, name probably a ref to the part of the gourd its used from.
small sitar (kinnari veena)

carnatic sitar
sitar.gif
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
surbahar wd en mb
effectively a bass sitar. invented c1820 by ghulam muhammad
Cell 2
Sursingar wd en mb hybrid plucked north indian classical lute invented c1800 by jaffar khan (seniya family)

resonator, front and bridge from sitar, upperpart of neck/pegboard like the rabab, tuned and played like rabab, plectrum like sitar.
(clearly this is a sitar/rabab hybrid)

it has a sub-branch the sitariya (see sitar -_-)
sursringar_i.jpg
Cell 1 Cell 2
svaraj fretless long necked plucked lute from bangladesj, it is a bangl version of the bengali/northindian dotara, it ought to be spelled saraj (see esraj)
Cell 2
esraj esraj_2.jpg
dilruba dilruba.gif
taus taus.gif
mayuri-vina
mayuri_veena.gif
yazh yazh.gif
saung gauk saunggauk.gif
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
Cell 1 Cell 2
bin-sitar Cell 2
kamaica Cell 2
ravanhattha Cell 2
khuur (mongolian fiddles) morin_khuur.gif
Cell 1 Cell 2




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sara
surs
suba
sita
saro
sari
banam(rebs)


rabab-> sarod


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From-Tri-tantri-Veena-to-Sitar/articleshow/21391436.cms and images on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritantri_vina and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setar (compare image on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar ) makes it clear that it is the setar that is evolved from the tritantri veena - the sitar https://beta.musicbrainz.org/instrument/9290b2c1-97c3-4355-a26f-c6dba89cf8ff/ an unrelated (but possible distant cousin) was *named* after the Persian setar.