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==2006/09/25 => 2006/?/?==

Off for a few weeks/months. You can still join me by mail.

Update: I'm off community stuff (irc/ml), and not working much on my usual pet projects. Still, I can't resist killing a night or two editing random stuff :D

==Who are you?==
==Who are you?==


A moderator known either as "dmppanda" or "Mangled". You may find me on IRC or drop me a mail.
A moderator known either as ''dmppanda'', ''Mangled'', or ''Olivier''. Any of these will make my IRC client go *blink* (if I'm on IRC) - otherwise, you can drop me a mail.


I was formerly known as ''The Creature of Dr'' [[User:TeleGUISE|teleSTEIN]], and/or as ''The Crazy Annotations Master'' - a somewhat overrated title I owned by... annotating... Lately, [[User:Yurim|Yurim]] has been calling me ''L.A.'' (''Lord Annotator'') - which probably means I'm getting old ;)
I'm supposed to operate mostly in the jazz sections of the database. Most of my usurpated glory comes from the fact most people thought my understanding and feeling of the genre was indeed encyclopedic knowledge of it :p


I'm supposed to operate mostly in the [[Jazz]] sections of the database. Actually, this part of the db is pretty much abandoned, so it wasn't really hard to look like I was a jazz guru - which I'm not.
I was formerly known as The Creature of Dr [[User:TeleGUISE|teleSTEIN]], and/or as The Crazy Annotations Master - a somewhat overrated title I owned by... annotating...


I'm a native french speaker, willing to help these who desperately need to fix french titles but can't (as long as they don't plan to call on [[Artist Intent]]). Note that if they do plan to, they don't need any expertise, they can mess the titles all by themselves ;) .
I'm a native french speaker, willing to help these who desperately need to fix french titles but can't (as long as they don't plan to call on [[Artist Intent|ArtistIntent]]). Note that somebody calling on [[Artist Intent|ArtistIntent]] does not actually need any kind of expertise - they can mess the titles all by themselves.


Due to a demanding and variable professional life, I'm on and off depending on the period of the year and facts beyond my control (eg: if I got work, or if I got dough / spondulicks / wonga) - so you may either find me very easily, or have to wait a week for a mail answer...
These days, much of my free time is consumed by the [[Jazz/Labels|Jazz Labels]] project.


==What is on this page?==
==What is on this page?==


Just my personnal memos and todo list, plus my bookmarks.
Some random stuff, memos, todo list, notes, bookmarks, dinosaurs bones...


==Extra-editing stuff I've been workin' on==
==Just my personnal memos and todo list==


Wiki:
* Never ending projects, editing suggestions:
* As far as I remember, my first contribution to the wiki was this tomfoolery:
** The [[Completist]].

* I then done my share in fleshing out the [[Jazz]] section:
** [[Jazz]]
** [[Jazz/Collections]]
** [[Jazz/Collections]]
** [[Jazz/Compositions]]
** [[Jazz/Compositions]]
** [[Jazz/Labels]]
** [[Jazz/Dates]]
** [[Jazz/Labels]] and childrens...
** [[Jazz/Places]]
** [[Jazz/Quotes]]
** [[Jazz/Words]]
** While as a whole the interest of these pages is pretty random, some of them happen to be valuable, and I suggest you take a look at [[Jazz/Compositions]] and [[Jazz/Collections]] for editing suggestions.


* Lately, I've been involved in the work done on labels, which sum up to: {{FullSearch|linkto:CategoryLabel}}
* Urgent tasks:
** get rid of the VA mess on jazz:
* I'm also the father of this other tomfoolery:
** [[Frogs Tidying Marathon|FrogsTidyingMarathon]] which happens to have generated +10k edits ;)
*** seek and document a maximum of these compilations
*** seek, retrieve, complete and harmonize all these collections with horribly hard to dig titles, like The Jazz Masters (mostly done)
*** squeeze down every possibility to obtain data, including pinging original add-moderators
*** destroy / fix what doesn't exist / is improperly entered


Style stuff I introduced:
* [[Advanced Relationship|AdvancedRelationship]] '''artist''' ''wrote liner notes for'' '''release'''.
* the new language ''Artificial (Other)'' (see the badly misnamed [[Artificial Artists|ArtificialArtists]])

==Editing plans==

* get rid of the VA comp mess on jazz
* Artists on the tidying radar:
* Artists on the tidying radar:
** Don Pullen
** Don Pullen
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** Eric Dolphy
** Eric Dolphy
** Thelonious Monk
** Thelonious Monk
** Charlie Parker
** Billie Holiday
** Ella Fitzgerald
** Duke Ellington
** Erik Satie
** Ornette Coleman

* getting the jazz incoming flow under control
* trying to get the french stuff incoming flow under control
* verify albums with Multiple Language set / No Language set
* get ready for the arrival of label entries in the system

==Style TODO==

* re-open capitalization style for abreviated words like 'Round
* obtain track annotations
* form the MB Jazz Strike Force with other jazz moderators, an informal group of moderators sharing/debating opinions (eg: on topics like track title variant chosen for harmonization), and coordinating tidying efforts, ensuring both that Jazz doesn't derive from MB style, and still doesn't loose its specificity - right now, the strike-force/thingie/stuff resumes to Yllona and myself communicating by throwing at each other rare jazz track titles, mood-driven and freely-word-associated, which is actually very fun

==Some (auto)-editors, Volume 1: The Good==

Editors I've been/I'm working with regularly:
* Marcel Editor:Bad_Seed, who always answer yes for my spanish/portuguese laundry
* Editor:mbase1235 a.k.a. [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0f1ae3cd-2ab3-435c-8a5b-245e8073d91a.html Steve Coleman], on the project to fix his own discography
* Editor:Joan+Whittaker, co-authoring mailings and bug reports, rampaging through [[Jazz/Compositions]], co-fixing horked releases... Not to mention she regularly vote on my edits and stuff my subscriptions with countless edits ;)
* Editor:keschte, with whom I used to exchange light minded mails on technical topics like "what is the sex of javascript?" or "do DOM elements have brainz?"

Editors I'm sometime voting on their edits:
* [[User:TeleGUISE|teleSTEIN]] (Editor:teleguise) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=37736 suspicious activities :D]
* [[User:Nyght|Beth aka Nyght]] (Editor:Nyght) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=141077 open list]
* [[User:mo|mo]] (Editor:mo) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=38393 cat's grooves]
* [[User:Zout|Zout]] (Editor:zout) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=68620 open mods]
* [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] (Editor:shepard) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=90541 Shepherding occupations]
* [[Yllona Richardson]] (Editor:Yllona+Richardson) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=101250 The Jazz Ruler]
* [[Joan Whittaker]] (Editor:Joan+Whittaker) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=197490 The Apostrophe Queen]
* [[User:drsaunde|drsaunde]] (Editor:drsaunde) [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=224057 The Abominable Dr. Saunde]

An editor doing a lot of interesting adds to the jazz section:
* [[tetedechou]] (Editor:tetedechou)


A promising ("young") editor, doing a lot of good job on neglected stuff:
* "Time-warped term" goals
* [[User:murdos|murdos]] (Editor:murdos)
** get enough MB code-juice in my brainz to begin contributing front-end patchs
** help rewrite/complete the AMZ documentation, given AMZ made me suffer a lot and I feel the documentation is a mess and there is mostly no consensus at all and a huge lack of information on how AMZ handles data
** help rewrite the welcome documentation, given I opened that can of worms, and said it was inadequate
** '''boiling in your mail box right now:''' re-open the can of worms: capitalization style for abreviated words like 'Round
** open a huge can of worms: getting rid of bogus jazz artists, which involves getting people drop the inaccurate belief that the "release cover says all"
** push hard in order to have track annotations, label/cat entries, label annotations (catnapping if necessary :p)
** mercilessly control the input flow in the jazz genre
** form the MB Jazz Strike Force with other jazz moderators, an informal group of moderators sharing/debating opinions (eg: on topics like track title variant chosen for harmonization), and coordinating tidying efforts, ensuring both that Jazz doesn't derive from MB style, and still doesn't loose its specificity - right now, the strike-force/thingie/stuff resumes to Yllona and myself communicating by throwing at each other rare jazz track titles, mood-driven and freely-word-associated, which is actually very fun
*** a few months later, the JSF is still nothing more, though I put some energy into the [[Jazz]] section to flesh it out


A ("young") editor, also doing good work, with a viciously funny sense of humor :) :
** continue to help teleGUISE in his release documentation crusade, and try to put it to another level by using label catalogs for cross-consistency checks and labels completeness
* [[User:Yurim|Yurim]] (Editor:Yurim)


==Bookmarks: some (auto)-moderators==
==Some (auto)-editors, Volume 2: The Bad==


Editors who are/were adding bogus/random event releases without care or reason:
Moderators I've been/I'm working with regularly:
* Editor:Pianissimo84
* Marcel "[http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?username=Bad_seed Bad_Seed]", who always answer yes for my spanish/portuguese laundry
* Editor:MLL
* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?userid=259506 mbase1235] a.k.a. [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0f1ae3cd-2ab3-435c-8a5b-245e8073d91a.html Steve Coleman], on the project to fix his own discography
* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?username=Joan+Whittaker Joan Whittaker], co-authoring mailings and bug reports, rampaging through [[Jazz/Compositions|jazz titles]], co-fixing horked releases... Not to mention she regularly vote on my edits and stuff my subscriptions with countless edits ;)
* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?username=keschte keschte], with whom I usually correspond on technical topics (like "what is the sex of javascript?" or "do DOM elements have brainz?")


Editors who never answer:
Moderators I'm sometimes voting on their edits:
* Editor:malochio@gmail.com
* [[User:TeleGUISE|teleSTEIN]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=37736 suspicious activities :D]
* [[User:Nyght|Beth aka Nyght]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=141077 open list]
* [[User:mo|mo]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=38393 cat's grooves]
* [[User:Zout|Zout]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=68620 open mods]
* [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=90541 Shepherding occupations]
* [[Yllona Richardson]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=101250 The Jazz Ruler]
* [[Joan Whittaker]] [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=197490 The Apostrophe Queen]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=224057 drsaunde]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=99082 tetedechou]


Editors who don't like styleguides, and prefer their own opinion about things:
Moderators who never answer:
* Editor:claiborne
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=206352 malochio@gmail.com]
* Editor:MLL


==Some (auto)-editors, Volume 3: The Ugly==
Moderators who don't like styleguides:
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=161352 claiborne]


None yet, hopefully.
Moderators I'm sometimes watching for some other reason:
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=229714 mark.mays]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?mod_status=1&vote_cast=-2&orderby=desc&moderator_type=3&moderator_id=105951 kkaucher]


==Bookmarks: Things I should watch on a regular basis and I don't==
==Bookmarks: Things I should watch on a regular basis and I don't==
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* L'idole des jaunes
* L'idole des jaunes
* Would You Lie to Take a Walk?
* Would You Lie to Take a Walk?
* Take Lobe Easy


==Stuff that need to be addressed / answered==
==Stuff that need to be addressed / answered==


* AR for "wrote the liner notes" (Quinn)
* instruments "tap dancing" (Who used to dance) and "pocket trumpet" (Don Cherry)
* instruments "tap dancing" (Who used to dance) and "pocket trumpet" (Don Cherry)
* ticket 2090
* ticket 2090
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* Have a report of all (supposed) homebrew discid
* Have a report of all (supposed) homebrew discid
* release date: mom' lil' helper (ongoing)
* release date: mom' lil' helper
* A XUL interface to the web service and/or the web site
* A XUL interface to the web service and/or the web site


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* "Preserving (album version) into titles just sucks"
* "Preserving (album version) into titles just sucks"
* "Using sentence mode for french capitalization is the laziest and most stupid move done by the french editors in MB *ever*. Nice going guys."
* "Using sentence mode for french capitalization is the laziest and most stupid move done by the french editors in MB *ever*. Nice going guys."
* "Go to hell composer style!" ([http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2006/2006-09/2006-09-06.html#T23-40-42-137825 Shepard in a great moment of inspiration])


==Spoken languages==
==Spoken languages==

Revision as of 13:39, 7 December 2006

Who are you?

A moderator known either as dmppanda, Mangled, or Olivier. Any of these will make my IRC client go *blink* (if I'm on IRC) - otherwise, you can drop me a mail.

I was formerly known as The Creature of Dr teleSTEIN, and/or as The Crazy Annotations Master - a somewhat overrated title I owned by... annotating... Lately, Yurim has been calling me L.A. (Lord Annotator) - which probably means I'm getting old ;)

I'm supposed to operate mostly in the Jazz sections of the database. Actually, this part of the db is pretty much abandoned, so it wasn't really hard to look like I was a jazz guru - which I'm not.

I'm a native french speaker, willing to help these who desperately need to fix french titles but can't (as long as they don't plan to call on ArtistIntent). Note that somebody calling on ArtistIntent does not actually need any kind of expertise - they can mess the titles all by themselves.

Due to a demanding and variable professional life, I'm on and off depending on the period of the year and facts beyond my control (eg: if I got work, or if I got dough / spondulicks / wonga) - so you may either find me very easily, or have to wait a week for a mail answer...

What is on this page?

Some random stuff, memos, todo list, notes, bookmarks, dinosaurs bones...

Extra-editing stuff I've been workin' on

Wiki:

  • As far as I remember, my first contribution to the wiki was this tomfoolery:
  • Lately, I've been involved in the work done on labels, which sum up to: Template:FullSearch
  • I'm also the father of this other tomfoolery:

Style stuff I introduced:

Editing plans

  • get rid of the VA comp mess on jazz
  • Artists on the tidying radar:
    • Don Pullen
    • Django Reinhardt
    • Charles Mingus
    • Eric Dolphy
    • Thelonious Monk
    • Charlie Parker
    • Billie Holiday
    • Ella Fitzgerald
    • Duke Ellington
    • Erik Satie
    • Ornette Coleman
  • getting the jazz incoming flow under control
  • trying to get the french stuff incoming flow under control
  • verify albums with Multiple Language set / No Language set
  • get ready for the arrival of label entries in the system

Style TODO

  • re-open capitalization style for abreviated words like 'Round
  • obtain track annotations
  • form the MB Jazz Strike Force with other jazz moderators, an informal group of moderators sharing/debating opinions (eg: on topics like track title variant chosen for harmonization), and coordinating tidying efforts, ensuring both that Jazz doesn't derive from MB style, and still doesn't loose its specificity - right now, the strike-force/thingie/stuff resumes to Yllona and myself communicating by throwing at each other rare jazz track titles, mood-driven and freely-word-associated, which is actually very fun

Some (auto)-editors, Volume 1: The Good

Editors I've been/I'm working with regularly:

  • Marcel Editor:Bad_Seed, who always answer yes for my spanish/portuguese laundry
  • Editor:mbase1235 a.k.a. Steve Coleman, on the project to fix his own discography
  • Editor:Joan+Whittaker, co-authoring mailings and bug reports, rampaging through Jazz/Compositions, co-fixing horked releases... Not to mention she regularly vote on my edits and stuff my subscriptions with countless edits ;)
  • Editor:keschte, with whom I used to exchange light minded mails on technical topics like "what is the sex of javascript?" or "do DOM elements have brainz?"

Editors I'm sometime voting on their edits:

An editor doing a lot of interesting adds to the jazz section:

A promising ("young") editor, doing a lot of good job on neglected stuff:

A ("young") editor, also doing good work, with a viciously funny sense of humor :) :

Some (auto)-editors, Volume 2: The Bad

Editors who are/were adding bogus/random event releases without care or reason:

  • Editor:Pianissimo84
  • Editor:MLL

Editors who never answer:

  • Editor:malochio@gmail.com

Editors who don't like styleguides, and prefer their own opinion about things:

  • Editor:claiborne
  • Editor:MLL

Some (auto)-editors, Volume 3: The Ugly

None yet, hopefully.

Bookmarks: Things I should watch on a regular basis and I don't

Funniest typos

Track typos that made me laugh:

  • L'idole des jaunes
  • Would You Lie to Take a Walk?
  • Take Lobe Easy

Stuff that need to be addressed / answered

  • instruments "tap dancing" (Who used to dance) and "pocket trumpet" (Don Cherry)
  • ticket 2090
  • need to be able to return more than 100 results on search
  • GuessCase strange behavior on "Sittin' and Rockin'"
  • GuessCase french mode somewhat horked

Ideas for reports / scripts / crazy development

  • Have a report of all (supposed) homebrew discid
  • release date: mom' lil' helper
  • A XUL interface to the web service and/or the web site

Holy crap!!!!

Extremely politically incorrect thoughts

Disclaimer: whoever you are, don't you ever mention me as a reference if you think the same. These thoughts are the shame of the community, counter-productive, dangerous, and I'll deny I ever thought them if somebody asks me.

That being said...

  • "Preserving (album version) into titles just sucks"
  • "Using sentence mode for french capitalization is the laziest and most stupid move done by the french editors in MB *ever*. Nice going guys."
  • "Go to hell composer style!" (Shepard in a great moment of inspiration)

Spoken languages

(like Shepard, but worse: it's (a bit) more than "some" but it's (very) far from fluent ;) , which obviously is my favorite excuse to ignore things when I don't want to hear them) Template:lang fr-native Template:lang en-some