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| Live Bootleg Style || 2006-01-23 || [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-January/001379.html post] [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-January/010885.html mb-users] [[Live Bootleg Style|wiki]] || - || [[User:kuno/CurrentStyleProposals#fuchs01|in use?]] || [[User:Fuchs|Fuchs]] || -
| Live Bootleg Style || 2006-01-23 || [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-January/001379.html post] [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-January/010885.html mb-users] [[Live Bootleg Style|wiki]] || - || [[User:kuno/CurrentStyleProposals#fuchs01|in use?]] || [[User:Fuchs|Fuchs]] || -
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| Artist Role Inheritance || 2005-08-04 || [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2005-August/000311.html post] || - || [[User:kuno/CurrentStyleProposals#redman01|unresolved?]] || [[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]] || -
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| Audio Book Style || predates 2005-07-23 || [[AudioBook Style|wiki]] [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2007-June/016230.html mb-users] || - || [[User:kuno/CurrentStyleProposals#misc01|discussion died?]] || [[User:WolfSong|WolfSong]], [[User:Keschte|Keschte]] || -
| Audio Book Style || predates 2005-07-23 || [[AudioBook Style|wiki]] [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2007-June/016230.html mb-users] || - || [[User:kuno/CurrentStyleProposals#misc01|discussion died?]] || [[User:WolfSong|WolfSong]], [[User:Keschte|Keschte]] || -
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===RFC: New Release Status: "Upcoming"===
===RFC: New Release Status: "Upcoming"===


<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Consensus reached according to [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004726.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004726.html] , see also
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Consensus reached according to [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004726.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004726.html] , see also [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004840.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004840.html] . No further work seems to have been done on this after the initial consensus was reached. Related activity: [[Not Yet Released Releases|NotYetReleasedReleases]] Also, I ''think'' the issue of upcoming releases was also discussed on the style mailinglist within the context of Data Quality (setting upcoming releases to low data quality), but cannot find the thread right now --kuno.
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[http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004840.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004840.html] . No further work seems to have been done on this after the initial consensus was reached.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Related activity: [[Not Yet Released Releases|NotYetReleasedReleases]] Also, I ''think'' the issue of upcoming releases was also discussed on the style mailinglist within the context of Data Quality (setting upcoming releases to low data quality), but cannot find the thread right now --kuno.
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<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Although [[Live Bootleg Style|LiveBootlegStyle]] is not an official guideline yet, it seems it is already being used by some editors (based on [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004792.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004792.html]). It it is unclear to me at this point what work still needs to be done before the guideline can become official (please update this if you do or spend some time looking into it :) --[[User:kuno|kuno]]..
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Although [[Live Bootleg Style|LiveBootlegStyle]] is not an official guideline yet, it seems it is already being used by some editors (based on [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004792.html http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2007-May/004792.html]). It it is unclear to me at this point what work still needs to be done before the guideline can become official (please update this if you do or spend some time looking into it :) --[[User:kuno|kuno]]..
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===ArtistRoleInheritance===

<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">An old issue (2005) still mentioned on [[Proposed Style Guideline|ProposedStyleGuideline]]. I have no idea what the status is, although from a quick reading I would think current practice more or less matches with the interpretation outlined on the page.
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===Audio Book Style===
===Audio Book Style===


<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Some discussion took place, but it seems no member of the [[Style Council|StyleCouncil]] actively listens to audio books themselves, which I fear makes progress on this issue '''very''' slow.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">A page edit on 2005-10-23 claims [[User:WolfSong|WolfSong]] and [[User:Keschte|Keschte]] will write the [[AudioBook Style|AudioBookStyle]], and indeed the first few drafts have been made in the following days. Most recently, some discussion took place in June 2007, but it seems no member of the [[Style Council|StyleCouncil]] actively listens to audio books themselves, as a result, no one is actively trying to get this implemented. This issue really needs a proper [[Idea Champion|IdeaChampion]].
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Revision as of 18:32, 2 September 2007


Current Style Proposals

This page is an attempt to list all 'current' or 'active' proposals on the StyleMailingList. Often, proposals do reach some sort of consensus, but are never followed up on, the goal of this page is to keep track of those proposals so they are not forgotten, and can be revisited at the appropriate time.

Formal RFCs on the StyleMailingList are tracked here, no other proposals should be added.

NOTE: the current name and location kuno/CurrentStyleProposals should change at some point, i would like some suggestions on what this page should be called (just leave comments here or tell me on irc :).

Disclaimer: this is not an automated list, but I will try to keep it up to date. If you think some information is out of date or incorrect, notify me (warp on irc, or kuno@frob.nl) and I will look into it (or, change it yourself, this is a wiki :).

Summary Date Full Proposal RFV Current Status IdeaChampion Developer
RFC: Don't allow/disable additions of ARs and release 2007-08-28 post - being discussed Gecks -
RFC: ClassicalReleaseLanguage 2007-07-24 post wiki - no support AaronCooper -
RFC: Classical works for multiple instruments 2007-06-29 post - no support AaronCooper -
RFC: Change Default Data Quality 2007-06-19 post wiki - no consensus BrianFreud -
RFC: Adding {instrument} and {vocals} to 'Recorded By' AR 2007-05-21 post - discussion died Gecks -
RFC: "changed name to" AR 2007-05-07 post - discussion died Bogdanb -
RFC: Reissue Produced By" and "Compilation Produced By 2007-05-06 post - no discussion Gecks -
RFC: performance dates and locations 2007-05-03 post wiki wiki trac - discussion died Bogdanb -
RFC: instrument-related AR changes 2007-05-03 post - no discussion Bogdanb -
RFC: Conductor AR Changes 2007-05-03 post - discussion died LukasLalinsky -
RFC: IMDb AR change 2007-05-01 post post - resurrected Kilu -
RFC: Bad Terminology: bootleg 2007-04-24 post - consensus? dmppanda -
RFC: New Release Status: "Upcoming" 2007-04-14 post - consensus AaronCooper -
x (disc 1) & x (disc 2), vs x & x (bonus disc) 2006-05-03 post revisit revisit post RFV Gecks -
Live Track Style 2006-04-03 post wiki - in use? zout -
Live Bootleg Style 2006-01-23 post mb-users wiki - in use? Fuchs -
Artist Role Inheritance 2005-08-04 post - unresolved? DonRedman -
Audio Book Style predates 2005-07-23 wiki mb-users - discussion died? WolfSong, Keschte -
Date of Birth (AR duplication) 2005-04-15 wiki mb-users mb-users - unresolved JohnCarter -

RFC: Don't allow/disable additions of ARs and release data Pseudo-Releases

  • new rfc.

RFC: ClassicalReleaseLanguage

  • Out of the people who voiced their opinion on this proposal, Alex Dupuy doesn't see the need for it and Olivier is not in favour. I assume this proposal has been abandoned due to lack of support.

RFC: Classical works for multiple instruments

  • Only three people participated in the discussion, with no clear support for the proposal. I expect the author has abandoned the proposal, but please correct me if I am wrong --kuno.

RFC: Change Default Data Quality

  • No consensus was reached on the actual proposal in its original form. However, a lot of valuable suggestions were made by various people, the proposal should probably be rewritten to take those suggestions into account and resubmitted as an RFC. (IMO, DonRedman has an insightful post on the proposal. --kuno).

RFC: Adding {instrument} and {vocals} to 'Recorded By' AR

  • Discussion died, no clear consensus reached as far as i can see. No summary of the discussion.

RFC: "changed name to" AR

  • In general, people seemed to be in favour of this proposal -- but concerned that the AR will be abused to split up artists which wouldn't be split up without the AR. The discussion died out, wasn't summarized or otherwise followed up later.

RFC: Reissue Produced By" and "Compilation Produced By

  • No discussion took place. No further action was taken.

RFC: performance dates and locations

  • Discussion has died on the MailingList and died or slowed down on the wiki pages. I don't see a clear consensus yet on the implementation details.

RFC: instrument-related AR changes

  • No discussion took place. No further action was taken.

RFC: Conductor AR Changes

  • Discussion died. There seem to be no objections to the proposal, however the discussion was not summarized nor do I see an RFV for the proposal.

RFC: IMDb AR change

  • No discussion took place. UPDATE: Yay, artysmokes is the first to reply, only 4 months after the initial post :)

RFC: Bad Terminology: bootleg

RFC: New Release Status: "Upcoming"

x (disc 1) & x (disc 2), vs x & x (bonus disc)

  • The proposed changes to BonusDisc were first discussed and written in may 2006, amended in september 2006, and a call for further discussion in may 2007 (with no responses). Some issues raised in the september discussion and on the wiki page haven't been addressed by the proposal. RFV has been posted now.

Live Track Style

  • The first mention of LiveTrackStyle on the mailinglist is a post by zout, which is a sort of half RFV. Though at the time it seems there was consensus, work on it for some reason died out. A lot of discussion has also been added to the page itself. I think the guideline is already being used, atleast for NATs, by many editors.

Live Bootleg Style

ArtistRoleInheritance

  • An old issue (2005) still mentioned on ProposedStyleGuideline. I have no idea what the status is, although from a quick reading I would think current practice more or less matches with the interpretation outlined on the page.

Audio Book Style

  • A page edit on 2005-10-23 claims WolfSong and Keschte will write the AudioBookStyle, and indeed the first few drafts have been made in the following days. Most recently, some discussion took place in June 2007, but it seems no member of the StyleCouncil actively listens to audio books themselves, as a result, no one is actively trying to get this implemented. This issue really needs a proper IdeaChampion.

Date of Birth

  • Apparantly unresolved issue about birth dates being allowed on performance names or only on legal/birth names.

Old Style Proposals

Vetoed or otherwise abandoned, canceled or retired proposals go here. These should be moved to a separate page when the list becomes too big.

Summary Date Full Proposal RFV Current Status IdeaChampion Developer
RFC: change video game data cdroms from soundtrack to other 2007-08-15 post forum - dropped kuno -
RFV: new vocal type - "rap" 2007-08-15 post post veto vetoed LukasLalinsky -
RFV: "has a blog at" AR 2007-05-01 post post implemented LukasLalinsky -

RFC: change video game data cdroms from soundtrack to other

  • No consensus, RFC dropped.

RFC: new vocal type - "rap"

  • Vetoed because we do not have a clear definition of what rap is.