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Currently tracks on my local disc have recording MBIDs (and artist, album artist and release MBIDs I guess).  But those ids are not useful for identifying a particular file on disc, or linking other data to a particular file, because there are releases where I have different versions of the release, and thus have different files with the same recording MBID.
 
Currently tracks on my local disc have recording MBIDs (and artist, album artist and release MBIDs I guess).  But those ids are not useful for identifying a particular file on disc, or linking other data to a particular file, because there are releases where I have different versions of the release, and thus have different files with the same recording MBID.
 
*You just need to identify your files with {recording MBID + release MBID} [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 
*You just need to identify your files with {recording MBID + release MBID} [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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**No, there are releases where a recording MBID appears on a release multiple times. --[[User:Kuno|warp]].
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**The current compound key to looking up a track is (release MBID, disc position, track position). This proposal would basically just replace that with a UUID. (This would fix issues with disc reordering; whether it help track reordering is less clear.) [[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] ([[User talk:Kepstin|talk]]) 16:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 
I could ofcourse assign my own id or just use filename + path, but then I cannot communicate with other systems about this music.  So, I want track ids again.
 
I could ofcourse assign my own id or just use filename + path, but then I cannot communicate with other systems about this music.  So, I want track ids again.

Latest revision as of 16:42, 20 December 2012

My perfect system

  • tracks have MBIDs.
  • recordings get merged a lot more than they do now.

I like the FRBR model, which in musicbrainz has a good mapping for albums, and I believe we should have the same mapping for songs:

FRBR MB album MB song
work work work
expression release group recording
manifestation release track
item ___ ___

So when recordings should be merged etc.. should follow Expression as defined in 3.2.2 at http://archive.ifla.org/VII/s13/frbr/frbr_current3.htm#3.2 .

Why

Currently tracks on my local disc have recording MBIDs (and artist, album artist and release MBIDs I guess). But those ids are not useful for identifying a particular file on disc, or linking other data to a particular file, because there are releases where I have different versions of the release, and thus have different files with the same recording MBID.

  • You just need to identify your files with {recording MBID + release MBID} Murdos (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
    • No, there are releases where a recording MBID appears on a release multiple times. --warp.
    • The current compound key to looking up a track is (release MBID, disc position, track position). This proposal would basically just replace that with a UUID. (This would fix issues with disc reordering; whether it help track reordering is less clear.) Kepstin (talk) 16:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I could ofcourse assign my own id or just use filename + path, but then I cannot communicate with other systems about this music. So, I want track ids again.