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(practik's vote: leave abbrs alone, standardize series titles)
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== Expand all abbreviations ==
== Expand all abbreviations ==
Keep all as is. "Pt." should be expanded to "Part", "Vol." should be expanded to "Volume" (or its language equivalents), etc.
Keep all as is. "Pt." should be expanded to "Part", "Vol." should be expanded to "Volume" (or its language equivalents), etc.
*[[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[User:Sc-content|Sc-content]] ([[User talk:Sc-content|talk]]) 08:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Sc-content|Sc-content]] ([[User talk:Sc-content|talk]]) 08:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* There's more to abbreviations than just part numbers. It also applies to things like "inst.", "RMX", or "alt. take" – which didn't turn up in the discussion – where consistency is king. [[User:KRSCuan|KRSCuan]] ([[User talk:KRSCuan|talk]]) 08:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# There's more to abbreviations than just part numbers. It also applies to things like "inst.", "RMX", or "alt. take" – which didn't turn up in the discussion – where consistency is king. [[User:KRSCuan|KRSCuan]] ([[User talk:KRSCuan|talk]]) 08:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[User:Dainis|Dainis]] ([[User talk:Dainis|talk]]) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Dainis|Dainis]] ([[User talk:Dainis|talk]]) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[User:mr_maxis|mr_maxis]] 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:mr_maxis|mr_maxis]] 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* Consistency for clean data, although I'd prefer keeping everything unexpanded. [[User:Leo Verto|Leo Verto]] ([[User talk:Leo Verto|talk]]) 16:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# Consistency for clean data, although I'd prefer keeping everything unexpanded. [[User:Leo Verto|Leo Verto]] ([[User talk:Leo Verto|talk]]) 16:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* [[User:Rovastar|Rovastar]] ([[User talk:Rovastar|talk]]) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Rovastar|Rovastar]] ([[User talk:Rovastar|talk]]) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


== Don't expand abbreviations ==
== Don't expand abbreviations ==
Keep things like "Pt." and "Vol.", if that's what the cover says.
Keep things like "Pt." and "Vol.", if that's what the cover says.
* --[[User:Reosarevok|Reosarevok]] ([[User talk:Reosarevok|talk]]) 19:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
# --[[User:Reosarevok|Reosarevok]] ([[User talk:Reosarevok|talk]]) 19:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
* [[User:JesseW|JesseW]] ([[User talk:JesseW|talk]]) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:JesseW|JesseW]] ([[User talk:JesseW|talk]]) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* -- abbreviations should be like they are on the release, but on the recording we should use mb-style, further I think that all this should apply to feat." as well (ie if it says "featuring" don't change it to "feat.") ~[[User:CatCat|猫猫]]~<span style="color:#5C8CFA">♪</span>~[[User talk:CatCat|何?]] 11:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# -- abbreviations should be like they are on the release, but on the recording we should use mb-style, further I think that all this should apply to feat." as well (ie if it says "featuring" don't change it to "feat.") ~[[User:CatCat|猫猫]]~<span style="color:#5C8CFA">♪</span>~[[User talk:CatCat|何?]] 11:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:ListMyCDs.com|ListMyCDs.com]] ([[User talk:ListMyCDs.com|talk]]) 12:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

* [[User:ListMyCDs.com|ListMyCDs.com]] ([[User talk:ListMyCDs.com|talk]]) 12:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# — [[jesus2099]] ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[bflaminio]]
* — [[jesus2099]] ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] ([[User talk:Kepstin|talk]]) 15:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* [[bflaminio]]
# -- I think abbreviations should follow the booklet on releases and be expanded on recordings/works [[User:D4rkie|D4RK-PH0ENiX]]
* [[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] ([[User talk:Kepstin|talk]]) 15:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# Follow the release. The guideline should only cover cases where a release is inconsistent itself (e.g. “Volume” on front, “Vol.” on spine. — [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] ([[User talk:Hawke|talk]]) 16:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* -- I think abbreviations should follow the booklet on releases and be expanded on recordings/works [[User:D4rkie|D4RK-PH0ENiX]]
* Follow the release. The guideline should only cover cases where a release is inconsistent itself (e.g. “Volume” on front, “Vol.” on spine. — [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] ([[User talk:Hawke|talk]]) 16:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Practik|Practik]] ([[User talk:Practik|talk]]) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* [[User:Practik|Practik]] ([[User talk:Practik|talk]]) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)




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== Standardise titles for series ==
== Standardise titles for series ==
Allow keeping series standardised if inconsistent. If most say "Volume" then use "Volume" for all (same for "Vol." or "Tome" or whatever). So, in a series labeled as ''"Vol. 1", "Vol. 2", "Vol. III", "Vol. 4"'', "Vol. III" could be changed to "Vol. 3" (or Volume 3, if you voted to expand abbreviations, anyway).
Allow keeping series standardised if inconsistent. If most say "Volume" then use "Volume" for all (same for "Vol." or "Tome" or whatever). So, in a series labeled as ''"Vol. 1", "Vol. 2", "Vol. III", "Vol. 4"'', "Vol. III" could be changed to "Vol. 3" (or Volume 3, if you voted to expand abbreviations, anyway).
*[[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] ([[User talk:Murdos|talk]]) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[User:Dainis|Dainis]] ([[User talk:Dainis|talk]]) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Dainis|Dainis]] ([[User talk:Dainis|talk]]) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[bflaminio]]
# [[bflaminio]]
* [[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] ([[User talk:Kepstin|talk]]) 15:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC) —although if the series makes a clean break between different formats at some point, the parts before and after the break should be standardized separately.
# [[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] ([[User talk:Kepstin|talk]]) 15:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC) —although if the series makes a clean break between different formats at some point, the parts before and after the break should be standardized separately.
* [[User:Practik|Practik]] ([[User talk:Practik|talk]]) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Practik|Practik]] ([[User talk:Practik|talk]]) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


== Keep titles as per the release ==
== Keep titles as per the release ==
Keep the actual numbering and titling, even if their style changes through a series - series entities and series numbers already do all that's needed.
Keep the actual numbering and titling, even if their style changes through a series - series entities and series numbers already do all that's needed.
* [[User:JesseW|JesseW]] ([[User talk:JesseW|talk]]) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:JesseW|JesseW]] ([[User talk:JesseW|talk]]) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* — [[jesus2099]] ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# — [[jesus2099]] ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*[[User:mr_maxis|mr_maxis]] 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:mr_maxis|mr_maxis]] 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] ([[User talk:Hawke|talk]]) 16:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
# [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] ([[User talk:Hawke|talk]]) 16:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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Revision as of 17:24, 23 January 2015

Hi! Since there seem to be opinions on all sides for the "should we keep expanding abbreviations" debate, I'm going to run a wider vote to see what people think. I'll take a look at the results at the end of January or start of February and take a decision with the info :)

Please choose one of the options below for each pair, and "vote" by signing under it (using the "your signature" icon). If you only have an opinion on one of the two issues, then feel free to vote just once! Feel free to add any comment with your vote, but please use either the mailing list or the forum for any discussion longer than just a vote comment.

Discussion: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicbrainz.style/19445 / http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=5469

There are two related, but independent, discussions here:


Expand all abbreviations

Keep all as is. "Pt." should be expanded to "Part", "Vol." should be expanded to "Volume" (or its language equivalents), etc.

  1. Murdos (talk) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  2. Sc-content (talk) 08:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  3. There's more to abbreviations than just part numbers. It also applies to things like "inst.", "RMX", or "alt. take" – which didn't turn up in the discussion – where consistency is king. KRSCuan (talk) 08:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  4. Dainis (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  5. mr_maxis 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  6. Consistency for clean data, although I'd prefer keeping everything unexpanded. Leo Verto (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  7. Rovastar (talk) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't expand abbreviations

Keep things like "Pt." and "Vol.", if that's what the cover says.

  1. --Reosarevok (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
  2. JesseW (talk) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  3. -- abbreviations should be like they are on the release, but on the recording we should use mb-style, further I think that all this should apply to feat." as well (ie if it says "featuring" don't change it to "feat.") ~猫猫~~何? 11:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  4. ListMyCDs.com (talk) 12:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  5. — jesus2099 ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  6. bflaminio
  7. Kepstin (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  8. -- I think abbreviations should follow the booklet on releases and be expanded on recordings/works D4RK-PH0ENiX
  9. Follow the release. The guideline should only cover cases where a release is inconsistent itself (e.g. “Volume” on front, “Vol.” on spine. — Hawke (talk) 16:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  10. Practik (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)



Standardise titles for series

Allow keeping series standardised if inconsistent. If most say "Volume" then use "Volume" for all (same for "Vol." or "Tome" or whatever). So, in a series labeled as "Vol. 1", "Vol. 2", "Vol. III", "Vol. 4", "Vol. III" could be changed to "Vol. 3" (or Volume 3, if you voted to expand abbreviations, anyway).

  1. Murdos (talk) 06:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  2. Dainis (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  3. bflaminio
  4. Kepstin (talk) 15:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC) —although if the series makes a clean break between different formats at some point, the parts before and after the break should be standardized separately.
  5. Practik (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Keep titles as per the release

Keep the actual numbering and titling, even if their style changes through a series - series entities and series numbers already do all that's needed.

  1. JesseW (talk) 05:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  2. — jesus2099 ♬ 14:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  3. mr_maxis 15:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  4. Hawke (talk) 16:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)