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=== Works for Compilations, DJ-Mixes and Mash-ups ===
=== Works for Compilations, DJ-Mixes and Mash-ups ===


TBC




=== Artist Credits for Works ===
=== Artist Credits for Works ===
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In most cases, ISWCs should be attached to only one Work. Rare cases may require an ISWC to be attached to multiple works.
In most cases, ISWCs should be attached to only one Work. Rare cases may require an ISWC to be attached to multiple works.
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== Alternative 1 ==

:''A work represents an abstract musical creation/concept which can be performed and recorded to create a recording. Alternatively, a work can be creatively manipulated (i.e. arranged, remixed, sampled, mashed-up, etc.) into a new work, which can then have its own performances and recordings.

I took a stab at a definition, hopefully it's not too wordy. --[[User:PavanChander|navap]] 20:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Alternative 2 ==

Here's what we ended with when ruoak and I talked about the above 'more liberal' definition in IRC:
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: What is a Work?
:: A Work is a intentional musical creation, a creative combination of existing Works, or some combination of both.
: 'Works' vs. 'Recordings':
::* Works can be performed, combined, and/or recorded to create recordings.
::* Recordings can be creatively combined to create new Recordings or Works, depending on the situation. (See [[Mix Terminology]] for more details).
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It addresses what I saw as the three weaknesses in the original suggested definition (copied from IRC):
# Is a lost composition still a Work? (It can't be recorded)
# Is a jam or improv "song" a Work? (It is a new musical "creation"... perhaps 'composition' would be better wording?)
# This is prob a style Q, outside the definition, but just where does a medley become a Work, not a Recording?

ruoak suggested the answers were yes, yes, and yes. I suggested yes, no, and yes/no depending on the situation, though after discussion with ruoak, I could see my answer to #2 being also yes, depending on the situation, though '''not''' yes universally. The above definition was thus where we got to in trying to separate performance/recording from the core definition of a Work, rather than simply something potentially done with a Work (re #1), permitting 'Works' from improvs/jams, but only when it actually seems intended to be a real "jam song" (#2), and trying to find some additional guidance on Work vs Recording for mixes/medleys/comps/etc (#3). [[User:BrianFreud|BrianFreud]] 23:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


== Tricky things to consider ==
== Tricky things to consider ==

Revision as of 20:24, 13 September 2010

Defintion of a Work

My current attempt at defining a work:

A Work is a new musical creation or a creative combination of existing musical creations. Works can be performed and recorded to create recordings or recordings can be creatively combined to create new recordings.

By allowing a wider definition of a Work we can capture more information about the Work. For instance, if a compilation of music is considered a Work, then the release level information/ARs can capture the information about the recordings contained in the compilation and the Work level information/ARs can capture the information about the compilation itself.

Works for Compilations, DJ-Mixes and Mash-ups

TBC

Artist Credits for Works

A work artist_credit is used to indicate the artist(s) commonly associated with a work. The actual composer of the work is defined via an artist-work AR.

ISWCs for Works

In most cases, ISWCs should be attached to only one Work. Rare cases may require an ISWC to be attached to multiple works.

Tricky things to consider