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==Languages==
==Languages==


* * * * =Wonderings=
* * * * =Single track wonders=

Did you know that out of our 360 000 artists, about 100 000 are artists that have only a single track on some various artists release? Yeah, neither did I, until I made the query. There's potentially lot of garbage, so feel free to rummage through the massive [http://www.kotikone.fi/sami.sundell/mbrainz/artists/ artist list].

=Wonderings=


==Late Night Tales series==
==Late Night Tales series==
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* [[Album:a016286a-8bd2-4891-b810-eff5419c82d3|Crossing All Over vol.10]] has Skunk Anansie's Lately in the track listing, but it has the same track length and it's sharing its only PUID with [[Track:daf8b85b-19fe-43d2-b030-333e06f2461f|You'll Follow Me Down]].
* [[Album:a016286a-8bd2-4891-b810-eff5419c82d3|Crossing All Over vol.10]] has Skunk Anansie's Lately in the track listing, but it has the same track length and it's sharing its only PUID with [[Track:daf8b85b-19fe-43d2-b030-333e06f2461f|You'll Follow Me Down]].
* Nirvana's [[Album:557393d4-74ae-4833-8c72-822ed1a10175|The Best Of]] has Big Long Now which has same track length and it's sharing its PUID with [[Track:d17eb1b4-b5c9-4074-bbff-9ea46e7b247e|Mexican Seafood]].
* They Might Be Giants' [[Album:46ffd6e9-7cb5-4645-b844-53e2311dc402|Apollo 18]] has a zillion PUIDs on tracks that are only few seconds in length. Sort of strange, considering MusicIP software doesn't analyze that sort tracks.
* They Might Be Giants' [[Album:46ffd6e9-7cb5-4645-b844-53e2311dc402|Apollo 18]] has a zillion PUIDs on tracks that are only few seconds in length. Sort of strange, considering MusicIP software doesn't analyze that sort tracks.

==Track times==

* Thievery Corporation's [[Album:4bd15a42-66f1-4e59-9157-d11e288ce5d2|Abductions and Reconstructions]] needs its track times flushed.
* Same goes for Eagles' [[Album:9c6af437-a471-4bcd-9442-e5b9d9b9d064|The Very Best Of]].
* Sting's [[Album:6f847a6e-b3ff-444f-9416-095f4b4c578f|Nothing Like the Sun]] needs cleaning as well.
* One of those zillion [[Album:0307aae3-0163-4ba1-a4e1-e217fc357ab9|Best of Bowie]] entries calls for track flushing.
* U2's [[Album:379a26c2-57b7-416b-b08d-f4e3253caa19|All That You Can't Leave Behind]] waits for track cleanup. [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=18972&show=times#discid DiscIDs] suggest there are either several versions of the album or some wrong DiscIDs.
* U2's [[Album:ac41648d-5b61-4697-a17a-4ba2d3529aa7|The Best of 1980-1990]] also needs track time flush.
* Led Zeppelin's [[Album:73ad55fe-5cc4-4780-9d5e-65106aa94e09|Early Days]] has a much too long Stairway to Heaven, but only in release page, not on DiscIDs. '''according to my copy of disc, it should be 8:03 - joan whittaker'''


==Multiple releases under same entry==
==Multiple releases under same entry==


* Barry White's [[Album:da933cc4-59a7-44e4-8455-e124eab9cd4e|The Ultimate Collection]] has DiscID's with several minutes' difference in length, definitely not the same release.
* Barry White's [[Album:da933cc4-59a7-44e4-8455-e124eab9cd4e|The Ultimate Collection]] has DiscID's with several minutes' difference in length, definitely not the same release.
* Sting's [[Album:6f847a6e-b3ff-444f-9416-095f4b4c578f|Nothing Like the Sun]] needs cleaning as well.
* Simon and Garfunkel's [[Album:ff26907f-5689-4bc4-9020-3cc030b47195|The Concert in Central Park]] has seven [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=57496&show=times#discid DiscIDs] which seem to describe two slightly different releases.
* Simon and Garfunkel's [[Album:ff26907f-5689-4bc4-9020-3cc030b47195|The Concert in Central Park]] has seven [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=57496&show=times#discid DiscIDs] which seem to describe two slightly different releases.
* Guns'n'Roses [[Album:457b312d-04ff-475a-9a5a-7f1943896077|Best Ballads]] has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=89099&show=times#discid DiscIDs] with wildly varying track lengths.
* Guns'n'Roses [[Album:457b312d-04ff-475a-9a5a-7f1943896077|Best Ballads]] has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=89099&show=times#discid DiscIDs] with wildly varying track lengths.
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* [[Album:0536e090-ddea-40e6-a96a-8d29df845135|The Globe Sessions]] by Sheryl Crow has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=37182&show=times#discid DiscID] that has considerably different two last tracks.
* [[Album:0536e090-ddea-40e6-a96a-8d29df845135|The Globe Sessions]] by Sheryl Crow has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=37182&show=times#discid DiscID] that has considerably different two last tracks.
* [[Album:a69e671c-6f45-4b5a-8de3-64b5b98e4c70|The Very Best of Sting & The Police]] has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=30088&show=times#discid DiscID] with the last track almost two minutes shorter than in other DiscIDs.
* [[Album:a69e671c-6f45-4b5a-8de3-64b5b98e4c70|The Very Best of Sting & The Police]] has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=30088&show=times#discid DiscID] with the last track almost two minutes shorter than in other DiscIDs.
* The Cranberries' [[Album:7bc890af-a4a0-4af1-b866-c969852f5353|Stars]] compilation has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=88055&show=times#discid DiscID] that differs several minutes from the others.
* [[Album:9827b959-6b1a-4ced-a2fd-8abb5e6cb8d6|Under Rug Swept]] by Alanis Morissette seems to have several slightly different version.
* [[Album:9827b959-6b1a-4ced-a2fd-8abb5e6cb8d6|Under Rug Swept]] by Alanis Morissette seems to have several slightly different version.
* [[Album:03d85e2b-3183-4698-b632-c7119646f102|Seal]] by Seal has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=3542&show=times#discid DiscID] with "Crazy", track 3, over a minute shorter than in my copy...
* [[Album:03d85e2b-3183-4698-b632-c7119646f102|Seal]] by Seal has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=3542&show=times#discid DiscID] with "Crazy", track 3, over a minute shorter than in my copy...
* [[Album:7214f50e-e7d6-4948-806a-024a00a1eda7|Led Zeppelin]] has two [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=2269&show=times#discid DiscID's] that are clearly a different version of the album.
* [[Album:7214f50e-e7d6-4948-806a-024a00a1eda7|Led Zeppelin]] has two [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=2269&show=times#discid DiscID's] that are clearly a different version of the album.
* [[Album:495652e1-d9b7-40c5-8490-10a87b91dba6|The Fellowship of the Ring]] has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=248696&show=times#discid DiscID] that differs from others drastically on two tracks.
* [[Album:10bfa756-9237-4616-ac21-5f323a492327|Nirvana]] by Nirvana has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=90727&show=times#discid DiscID] which has several different tracks.
* [[Album:9706a149-af5b-49ce-9bc8-c153dc520f4f|Their Satanic Majesties Request]] has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=43067&show=times#discid DiscIDs] that paint a picture of at least two different releases.
* [[Album:6cd16d0d-4269-4cd2-ac9a-067d746d5c94|Station to Station]] has a strange [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=46655&show=times#discid DiscID].
* [[Album:d6010be3-98f8-422c-a6c9-787e2e491e58|Abbey Road]] has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=2717&show=times#discid a strange one].
* Guns'n'Roses' [[Album:457b312d-04ff-475a-9a5a-7f1943896077|Best Ballads]] has a stray [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=89099&show=times#discid DiscID].
* [[Album:64c91884-ab75-48e4-8e24-9cb88740cabc|Star Wars Episode I]] has a [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=268395&show=times#discid DiscID] where the first and the last track have changed places.
* [[Album:846a7626-b1a6-4c54-bba4-a5d1de5945e5|Stoosh]] by Skunk Anansie has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=212800&show=times#discid funny DiscIDs]. [[Album:41b5ec2d-df76-49fc-8b50-74a4b33e14ed|Another Stoosh]] looks even more crappy.
* [[Album:2be440a0-06a1-4002-9dcf-c458c87a95b1|A Funk Odyssey]] by Jamiroquai has [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=47913&show=times#discid two DiscIDs] that have totally different two last tracks.
* [[Album:127145ff-7959-4412-9d39-cb4c76e431e9|The Definitive Collection]] of Stevie Wonder is so definitive, that it combines [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=94525&show=times#discid two different DiscIDs] into a single release.
* [[Album:1b9c02d1-28a5-40ef-9ec8-85dc1dd5b1b2|Live at Wembley (disc 2)]] by Queen has several different kind of [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=32278&show=times#discid DiscIDs] attached to it.
* [[Album:babc0460-f5b0-47e9-abae-0b9df6b87deb|Return of Saturn]] seems to have two quite different [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=33924&show=times#discid DiscIDs].

==Questionable albums==

* [[Album:355fd1a7-31fc-4051-8506-a49a262934ac|A Tribute to U2]] - on U2's own catalog?
* [[Album:bf65372d-c917-4a28-9861-514fe0c60d70|Star Profile]] by R.E.M. isn't the official Star Profile, and the track times are so close to studio album lengths that I doubt it's a live either.
* [[Album:199ff365-d62d-4f31-9eac-8cef59cf6175|The Matrix soundtrack]] has two additional tracks compared to [[Album:fe9030d1-0edb-48af-bcf1-9389dd08961b|the official one]]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix:_Music_from_the_Motion_Picture Wikipedia] mentions those two additional tracks as missing from the soundtrack. And the track times make me think that either track times or track order is wrong.
* [[Album:8f245407-187e-4c72-b90c-fd33921bd128|Newage]] by "Enya" seems to be a bootleg compilation of new-agish tracks by various artists.


==Other things==
==Other things==
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* [[Album:896263b0-ce1e-45dd-abd2-c5118d17d5d6|Forty Licks (disc 1)]] has many suspicious [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=87157&show=times#discid DiscIDs], most of the discs look like burnt copies.
* [[Album:896263b0-ce1e-45dd-abd2-c5118d17d5d6|Forty Licks (disc 1)]] has many suspicious [http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/details.html?releaseid=87157&show=times#discid DiscIDs], most of the discs look like burnt copies.
* [[Artist:e34d66df-23f2-4beb-b3e4-b990af7dce0c|Universal Being]] artist page contains bogus releases. Something to get started with can be found in [http://music.aol.com/artist/universal-being/215339/discography AOL].
* [[Artist:e34d66df-23f2-4beb-b3e4-b990af7dce0c|Universal Being]] artist page contains bogus releases. Something to get started with can be found in [http://music.aol.com/artist/universal-being/215339/discography AOL].
* [[Album:999d163d-670b-4a23-94f4-f4a3afc6a684|Long Hard Road Out of Hell]] - if the tracks are from [[Album:60066613-9aba-4ab1-a6cf-3bafb8f50185|Spawn soundtrack]], shouldn't the performer be Marilyn Manson & Sneaker Pimps?
* [[Track:1dd2698a-3b58-4e09-9950-6eb4ae981696|If You Leave Me Now]] by Chicago - A Goa DJ? :D
* [[Album:ced79c7e-0db0-496e-9b85-a09c30406b79|Another Clapton compilation]] with all the tracks attributed to Eric Clapton, even though there are obvious Dominos and Cream tracks in there.
* [[Album:e34ffa54-6052-4ad6-9d5d-027c5ab19f24|In the Beginning]] seems to be another rehash of Decca tapes - to my knowledge all of them are bootlegs.
* [[Album:3e4b12e5-1f07-4511-b5dd-b2409d972b31|Collection of Tarantino movie music]] needs cleaning up.
* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/puid/?puid=bea0da07-7994-12ca-5744-57718f2a6712 This PUID] has several matching tracks. My Pandora's Box [untitled] generates it, so that's a proper match, but what about the other two? Circle Jerk rings a bell, it could be an unofficial name for that untitled track...

Thanks to Joan Whittaker and [[User:Zout|Zout]] for helping out.


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Latest revision as of 07:54, 15 March 2009

Currently an auto-editor in MusicBrainz, I've been mostly going through my own record collection. This means quite a lot of Finnish rock with some occasional apetizers. On the side I'm also trying to add useful information about the bands or artists in general when I find the time.

However, I often lose myself in finding and adding information: I may end up adding age-old clay singles, because someone has covered an old song in Finnish and I end up looking for the earliest release to link it to.

Currently I'm spending time trying to make sense about PUIDs; I'm going through my own collection and try to remove PUIDs from conflicting versions - for example, same PUID is not likely to be generated from a live and studio release, so away they go.

Languages

  • * * * =Single track wonders=

Did you know that out of our 360 000 artists, about 100 000 are artists that have only a single track on some various artists release? Yeah, neither did I, until I made the query. There's potentially lot of garbage, so feel free to rummage through the massive artist list.

Wonderings

Late Night Tales series

Late Night Tales is a series where each volume contains tracks chosen by a single artist. See, for example, Jamiroquai or Flaming Lips.

For some reason, each of these volumes is attributed to the artist who has chosen the tracks. Why? They are pretty obvious VA compilations. Do I get my own page in MusicBrainz if I start to compile my very own releases of other artists' tracks?

Smile

As I try to enter complete information into the database, I often find myself searching for the earliest releases. But what if that just isn't available? I welcome you in search of Smile, the original release of Charlie Chaplin's classic.

Is the earliest release the one we hear in Modern Times? If it is, do we count the movie as the first release - that's what the piece was composed for, after all. Did they release soundtracks back in 1936?

Or is the earliest release the one with lyrics added, from 1954? Turner/Parsons did a great job with the lyrics, and they complete the song as the version we know today. Was Nat King Cole's recording the first, or were there others before him?

To be fixed

Wrong tracks?

  • Crossing All Over vol.10 has Skunk Anansie's Lately in the track listing, but it has the same track length and it's sharing its only PUID with You'll Follow Me Down.
  • They Might Be Giants' Apollo 18 has a zillion PUIDs on tracks that are only few seconds in length. Sort of strange, considering MusicIP software doesn't analyze that sort tracks.

Multiple releases under same entry

Questionable albums

  • A Tribute to U2 - on U2's own catalog?
  • Star Profile by R.E.M. isn't the official Star Profile, and the track times are so close to studio album lengths that I doubt it's a live either.
  • The Matrix soundtrack has two additional tracks compared to the official one. Wikipedia mentions those two additional tracks as missing from the soundtrack. And the track times make me think that either track times or track order is wrong.
  • Newage by "Enya" seems to be a bootleg compilation of new-agish tracks by various artists.

Other things

Thanks to Joan Whittaker and Zout for helping out.

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