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Adding a classical release should be reasonably close to how you enter any other release in MB.
Adding a classical release should be reasonably close to how you enter any other release in MB.<br/>


Start with "Editing->Add release", and we'll look at "Release information".<br/>
Start with "Editing->Add release", and we'll look at "Release information".

I'm going to enter my copy of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, you can see the cover [http://chandos.co.uk/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%209052|here].<br/>
==Release information==
The tile is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that.<br/>
I'm going to enter my copy of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, you can see the cover [http://chandos.co.uk/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%209052 here].<br/>

===Title & Release Group===
The title is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that.<br/>
I have checked that the release group isn't already in MB, so I enter the same title as the recording. Also, there are no other titles available on the cover.
I have checked that the release group isn't already in MB, so I enter the same title as the recording. Also, there are no other titles available on the cover.


[[Image:release title.jpg]]
[[Image:release title.jpg]]


===Artist===
Next, we add artists from the cover, in the order of prominence. Berlioz got the biggest font here, so I start with him.<br/>
Next, we add artists from the cover, in the order of prominence. Berlioz got the biggest font here, so I start with him.<br/>


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Repeat this step for the orchestra.<br/>
Repeat this step for the orchestra.<br/>
[[Image:collab.jpg]]
[[Image:collab.jpg]]
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===Language===
Often for classical releases, you can choose one of 3-4 different languages tracklists & then you set the language field to that particular language.
This tracklist however is only available in one version so I'll use "English" here. See the guidelines for more examples of how to deal with multiple languages.<br/>
<br/>
The other fields in this section is just as for any other release.


==Release event==
This section is very important! Please attempt to add a release event to any classical release which you add or edit. Many classical releases feature the same compositions. Occasionally the same performers will release an entirely new recording of the same compositions which they previously recorded and released. Without a release event, even if advanced relationships are present, it can be difficult or impossible to determine what recording is actually represented by such an "empty" release.<br/>
[[Image:Release event.jpg]]


==Additional information==
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I'm entering recording location from the booklet in the annotation, since there's no way to record that in MB:<br/>

''Recorded in Stockholm Concert Hall 4-9 November 1991''<br/>
<br/>
If I was in a hurry and didn't have time to enter Advanced Relationships between the performers & the recordings, I'd put in performer information in the annotation too, to help identify the release.


==Release Events==
Please attempt to add a release event to any classical release which you add or edit. Many classical releases feature the same compositions. Occasionally the same performers will release an entirely new recording of the same compositions which they previously recorded and released. Without a release event, even if advanced relationships are present, it can be difficult or impossible to determine what recording is actually represented by such an "empty" release.
''copied this from Brian's proposal''


==Advanced Relationships==
==Advanced Relationships==
It is important that performer, arranger, and conductor relationships be added at the [[Recording|recording]] level (as applicable).<ref>For any given classical release, it is quite likely that there are several other releases containing the same works in the same order; if these basic ARs are not set, the release is essentially a 'blank' listing. Such unidentified 'blank' listings have a bad tendency to become full of PUIDs, TRMs, CD TOCs, and other data from a range of unrelated releases. Setting these basic identifying ARs allows the users of the database to identify that the releaser you are adding is not, in fact, the one that they want, both avoiding inaccurate data being added, and potentially leading to more releases being added, both of which benefit the data-health of the database.</ref> Please also review [[Advanced_Relationship_Style#Artist_Role_Inheritance_.26_Track_vs_Release_crediting|the Advanced Relationship guidelines]]. Be aware that setting a relationship to say that an [[Artist|artist]] [[Composer Relationship Type|composed]] a [[Release|release]] is '''not''' the same as setting relationships to say that an [[Artist|artist]] [[Composer Relationship Type|composed]] each [[Track|track]] on a [[Release|release]].<br/>
It is important that performer, arranger, and conductor relationships be added at the [[Recording|recording]] level (as applicable).<ref>For any given classical release, it is quite likely that there are several other releases containing the same works in the same order; if these basic ARs are not set, the release is essentially a 'blank' listing. Such unidentified 'blank' listings have a bad tendency to become full of PUIDs, TRMs, CD TOCs, and other data from a range of unrelated releases. Setting these basic identifying ARs allows the users of the database to identify that the releaser you are adding is not, in fact, the one that they want, both avoiding inaccurate data being added, and potentially leading to more releases being added, both of which benefit the data-health of the database.</ref> Please also review [[Advanced_Relationship_Style#Artist_Role_Inheritance_.26_Track_vs_Release_crediting|the Advanced Relationship guidelines]]. Be aware that setting a relationship to say that an [[Artist|artist]] [[Composer Relationship Type|composed]] a [[Release|release]] is '''not''' the same as setting relationships to say that an [[Artist|artist]] [[Composer Relationship Type|composed]] each [[Track|track]] on a [[Release|release]].<br/>

''can we say use the annotation instead of adding performer ARs to releases?''

Revision as of 22:26, 29 May 2011

Adding a classical release should be reasonably close to how you enter any other release in MB.

Start with "Editing->Add release", and we'll look at "Release information".

Release information

I'm going to enter my copy of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, you can see the cover here.

Title & Release Group

The title is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that.
I have checked that the release group isn't already in MB, so I enter the same title as the recording. Also, there are no other titles available on the cover.

release title.jpg

Artist

Next, we add artists from the cover, in the order of prominence. Berlioz got the biggest font here, so I start with him.

To add more artists, click on the ">>" button & then on the green cross after "Add artist credits": add more artists.jpg

Next in line is the conductor (next biggest font). His name in MB is the local version:

artist search.jpg

So I enter what's printed on cover in the field "Artist as credited". The "Join phrase" should be " / " (space slash space).
Repeat this step for the orchestra.
collab.jpg

Language

Often for classical releases, you can choose one of 3-4 different languages tracklists & then you set the language field to that particular language. This tracklist however is only available in one version so I'll use "English" here. See the guidelines for more examples of how to deal with multiple languages.

The other fields in this section is just as for any other release.

Release event

This section is very important! Please attempt to add a release event to any classical release which you add or edit. Many classical releases feature the same compositions. Occasionally the same performers will release an entirely new recording of the same compositions which they previously recorded and released. Without a release event, even if advanced relationships are present, it can be difficult or impossible to determine what recording is actually represented by such an "empty" release.
Release event.jpg

Additional information

I'm entering recording location from the booklet in the annotation, since there's no way to record that in MB:
Recorded in Stockholm Concert Hall 4-9 November 1991

If I was in a hurry and didn't have time to enter Advanced Relationships between the performers & the recordings, I'd put in performer information in the annotation too, to help identify the release.


Advanced Relationships

It is important that performer, arranger, and conductor relationships be added at the recording level (as applicable).[1] Please also review the Advanced Relationship guidelines. Be aware that setting a relationship to say that an artist composed a release is not the same as setting relationships to say that an artist composed each track on a release.

  1. For any given classical release, it is quite likely that there are several other releases containing the same works in the same order; if these basic ARs are not set, the release is essentially a 'blank' listing. Such unidentified 'blank' listings have a bad tendency to become full of PUIDs, TRMs, CD TOCs, and other data from a range of unrelated releases. Setting these basic identifying ARs allows the users of the database to identify that the releaser you are adding is not, in fact, the one that they want, both avoiding inaccurate data being added, and potentially leading to more releases being added, both of which benefit the data-health of the database.