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==Associate Concertmaster==
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: Wouldn't this be "Alternating Concertmaster", not "Associate Concertmaster"? [[User:BrianSchweitzer|BrianSchweitzer]] 06:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
: Wouldn't this be "Alternating Concertmaster", not "Associate Concertmaster"? [[User:BrianSchweitzer|BrianSchweitzer]] 06:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, literally, but they use "Associate" in the English description of the job (2nd part of the page). It looks like another word is used in English. IF they bother with a translation. --[[User:Symphonick|symphonick]] 10:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
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|[http://www.gso.se/?pageid=8512&employeeId=8 Ingrid Sjönnemo, Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra]
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Not sure what to do with "acting"; acting first assistant concermaster etc.
Not sure what to do with "acting"; acting first assistant concermaster etc.

==Guest Concertmaster==

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Revision as of 10:21, 26 December 2010

This is a research page for the Concertmaster AR.

(1st) Concertmaster / Leader

Position Example Comment
Concertmaster Andreas Buschatz, Berliner Philharmoniker
1st Concertmaster Guy Braunstein, Berliner Philharmoniker One of 3 first CMs
Principal Concertmaster Tobias Steymans, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks Webpage translates "1. Konzertmeister" with "Principal CM".
1st Principal Concertmaster ?
Alternating Concertmaster ? Literal translation from Scandinavian?
Leader Gordan Nikolitch, London Symphony Orchestra
1st leader Erkki Palola, Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra
Concertino dei primi violini Teatro alla Scala No, that WAS the English page.

Associate Concertmaster

Position Example Comment
Associate Concertmaster Nancy Wu, The Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
Associate Concertmaster Georg Liener, BR Münchner Rundfunk Orchester "Stellvertretender Konzertmeister" in German. English page even uses the term "deputy CM"!
Associate Concertmaster GSO Alt. förste k. in Swedish; literally "alternating first CM"
Wouldn't this be "Alternating Concertmaster", not "Associate Concertmaster"? BrianSchweitzer 06:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, literally, but they use "Associate" in the English description of the job (2nd part of the page). It looks like another word is used in English. IF they bother with a translation. --symphonick 10:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Principal Associate Concertmaster Laura Hamilton, The Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
Associate Concertmaster Boston Symphony Orchestra Both Associate & Assistant CM in the same orchestra.

So Associate CM != Assistant CM, but I haven't found a good explanation of the differences yet. Actually it looks like Associate CM > Assistant CM.

IIRC, we've found the same A > A for all other places we've added both attribs, so at least it's consistent.  :) BrianSchweitzer 06:25, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

2nd Concertmaster, Assistant Concermaster

Position Example Comment
Assisting Concertmaster Lyndon Johnston Taylor, New Zealand Symphony Orchestra
Assistant Concertmaster Jeremy Constant, San Fransisco Symphony
Assistant Concertmaster Nicola Birkhan, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks German: Vorspielerin
1st Assistant Concertmaster Tjeerd Top, Concertgebouw Orchestra "assistant principal violinist" according to the official homepage.
2nd Assistant Concertmaster Simon James, Seattle Symphony
Co-Concertmaster Pam Dassenko, San Luis Obispo Symphony
2nd Deputy Leader GSO Andre konsertmästare = literally 2nd CM

Concertmaster II Kristiansand They have 2 Konsertmester I
3nd Concertmaster Ingrid Sjönnemo, Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra
Concertmaster Emeritus ?
2nd leader Eriikka Maalismaa, Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra
Assistant Leader Tomo Keller, London Symphony Orchestra
Co-Leader Carmine Lauri, London Symphony Orchestra
Sub-Leader Lennox Mackenzie, London Symphony Orchestra

Not sure what to do with "acting"; acting first assistant concermaster etc.

Guest Concertmaster

Guest Concertmaster ?
1st Guest Concertmaster Alexander Kerr, Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra