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[[Proposal:CSGv2/Release/Title|The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal]] |
[[Proposal:CSGv2/Release/Title|The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal]] |
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+ | ==Featured artists== |
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+ | Not so common in classical, usually the composer + a couple of performers will be listed.<br> |
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+ | WOLFGANG AMADEUS<br/> |
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− | + | '''MOZART'''<br/> |
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− | + | 3 VIOLIN SONATAS<br/> |
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− | Missa Solemnis<br> |
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− | As with tracklists, use what's printed. In this case capitalization won't be an issue, because in the artist field we will get the name of the artist from the database: |
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− | Release title: |
+ | Release title: 3 Violin Sonatas |
− | Release artist: |
+ | Release artist: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart |
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− | In release artist field, begin with composer & use a slash between the artists. Also only use artists printed on the front cover. In this case, there are more artists listed on the rear side of the case. Create links between recordings & the appropriate performers using Advanced Relationships.<br/> |
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missa '''solemnis'''<br/> |
missa '''solemnis'''<br/> |
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LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN<br/> |
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN<br/> |
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+ | A vocal work will usually have more performers listed on the cover. Use a slash + spaces to separate artists. Most prominently featured artists first, then from top to bottom: |
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Release title: Missa Solemnis |
Release title: Missa Solemnis |
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− | Release artist: Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent / |
+ | Release artist: Philippe Herreweghe / Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent / unfinished |
− | Philippe Herreweghe |
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− | SYMPHONIE<br/> |
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− | FANTASTIQUE<br/> |
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− | LE CORSAIRE<br/> |
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− | ''from [http://chandos.co.uk/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%209052 CHAN 9052]''<br/> |
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− | For the title, fixing caps & errors, joining multiple works with a slash as in multipletitlestyle. |
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− | Release title: Symphonie Fantastique / Le Corsaire |
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− | Release artist: Hector Berlioz / Kungliga Filharmoniska Orkestern / Геннадий Николаевич Рождественский |
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'''Janáček''' String Quartets 1 & 2<br/> |
'''Janáček''' String Quartets 1 & 2<br/> |
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'''Dvořák''' from Cypresses<br/> |
'''Dvořák''' from Cypresses<br/> |
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− | New Helsinki Quartet<br/> |
+ | <small>New Helsinki Quartet</small><br/> |
''from apex 0927 40603 2''<br/> |
''from apex 0927 40603 2''<br/> |
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Release artist: Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet |
Release artist: Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet |
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− | But now we must add the composers to the title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.<br/> |
+ | But now we must add the composers to the release title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.<br/> |
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+ | *''Use the printed version of the composer's name in the title, don't for instance change scripts.''<br/> |
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==Various Artists== |
==Various Artists== |
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− | When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field |
+ | When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field, even if they are listed on the front cover.<br/> |
For example [http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.554103 Naxos Ten Years of Success].<br/> |
For example [http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.554103 Naxos Ten Years of Success].<br/> |
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Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release: |
Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release: |
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Release title: Kunst der Koloratur |
Release title: Kunst der Koloratur |
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Release artist: Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart |
Release artist: Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart |
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− | Don't add "Various Artists" for the composers who are not listed on the cover. |
+ | *Don't add "Various Artists" in the artist field for the composers who are not listed on the cover. |
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+ | ==Release title and language== |
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+ | If the title or list of works on the cover is only printed in one language, that's what we use for Release title. Even if the tracklist has multiple languages. |
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+ | The CLG 7102 Mozart violin sonatas above is an example of this. The tracklist is in both German and English, so if we enter the German version: |
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+ | Release title: 3 Violin Sonatas |
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+ | Tracklist: 1. Sonate für Violine und Klavier e-moll KV 304: Allegro |
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+ | *If you want to enter a translation, you're not entering an official release any more. See pseudo-releases. |
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==Release Groups== |
==Release Groups== |
Revision as of 09:48, 30 May 2011
Status: My research, questions & comments for the upcoming CSG for release & release groups. This is NOT a guideline. |
The general guidelines for Release group names
The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal
Featured artists
The ReleaseArtist of a classical Release should include the composer(s) & performers who are listed on the front cover. Except when "Various Artists" is used, see below.
Single artist
Not so common in classical, usually the composer + a couple of performers will be listed.
WOLFGANG AMADEUS
MOZART
1756-1791
3 VIOLIN SONATAS
example from CLG 7102
Release title: 3 Violin Sonatas Release artist: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
I had to fix capitalization; don't enter all caps or no caps-titles.
Multiple artists
missa solemnis
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
mannion remmert taylor hauptmann
la chapelle royale • collegium vocale gent
orchestre des champs-élysées
philippe herreweghe
from HMX 2901557
A vocal work will usually have more performers listed on the cover. Use a slash + spaces to separate artists. Most prominently featured artists first, then from top to bottom:
Release title: Missa Solemnis Release artist: Philippe Herreweghe / Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent / unfinished
Multiple composers
Janáček String Quartets 1 & 2
Dvořák from Cypresses
New Helsinki Quartet
from apex 0927 40603 2
Use a slash between multiple composers, just as with other performers:
Release title: Janáček: String Quartets 1 & 2 / Dvořák: from Cypresses Release artist: Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet
But now we must add the composers to the release title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.
- Use the printed version of the composer's name in the title, don't for instance change scripts.
The same principle applies for 3 composers and so on, but see below for information about when to use "Various Artists".
Various Artists
When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field, even if they are listed on the front cover.
For example Naxos Ten Years of Success.
Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release:
Release title: Ten Years of Success Release artist: Various Artists
But mostly there will be one or more performer to use:
ADAM · ALABIEFF · DELL'ACQUA · DELIBES · GLIÈRE · RACHMANINOFF · PROCH · STRAUSS
The Art of Coloratura • Kunst der Koloratur • L'Art de la coloratura
EDITA GRUBEROVA
Kurt Eichhorn Dirigent
Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart
Before NGS, this would have been a VA release, or possibly attributed only to Gruberová. Now we enter all performers in the artist field:
Release title: Kunst der Koloratur Release artist: Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart
- Don't add "Various Artists" in the artist field for the composers who are not listed on the cover.
Release title and language
Single language
If the title or list of works on the cover is only printed in one language, that's what we use for Release title. Even if the tracklist has multiple languages. The CLG 7102 Mozart violin sonatas above is an example of this. The tracklist is in both German and English, so if we enter the German version:
Release title: 3 Violin Sonatas Tracklist: 1. Sonate für Violine und Klavier e-moll KV 304: Allegro
- If you want to enter a translation, you're not entering an official release any more. See pseudo-releases.
Multiple languages
CD V-11
BACH
EDITION
Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210
Zwei Hochzeitskantaten BWV 202 & 210
Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit
from Brilliant Classics 93102/117
Two... and Zwei... are actually printed in all caps but with a bigger font for all beginning letters.
As with tracklists, just choose one language per release. Entered in English:
Release title: Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210 Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit Release artist: Johann Sebastian Bach
The quotes are only available in German, so that's what we use.
Release Groups
Will in many cases have the same name and artists as the release. But since there can be more than one release in a single releasegroup, there are 2 potential issues:
- an original release and a reissue can have different titles
- the releases within a release group can have different languages, we must choose one for the group name
Original/reissue titles
Use the title of the first release (OriginalData), or the earliest release available in the release group.
Different languages
This is tricky... First release? Chances are it's an international relase... Use English? What if we can only choose between German or French? Recording country? Suggestions?
- never use the language of a pseudo-release for the release group.