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[[Proposal:CSGv2/Release/Title|The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal]]
 
[[Proposal:CSGv2/Release/Title|The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal]]
  
==Composer as artist==
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==Featured artists==
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The [[Release Artist|ReleaseArtist]] of a classical Release should include the composer(s) & performers who are listed on the front cover. Except when "Various Artists" is used, see below.
  
The [[Release Artist|ReleaseArtist]] of a classical Release should always include the composer(s), except when "Various Artists" is used. See below.
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===Single artist===
 
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Not so common in classical, usually the composer + a couple of performers will be listed.<br>
===Single composer, single work===
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WOLFGANG AMADEUS<br/>
JUSSI<br/>
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'''MOZART'''<br/>
BJÖRLING<br/>
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1756-1791<br/>
Ludwig van Beethoven -<br/>
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3 VIOLIN SONATAS<br/>
Missa Solemnis<br>
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''example from CLG 7102''<br/>
''from PPC 8601''<br/>
 
 
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<br/>
As with tracklists, use what's printed. In this case capitalization won't be an issue, because in the artist field we will get the name of the artist from the database:
 
 
<pre>
 
<pre>
Release title:  Missa Solemnis
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Release title:  3 Violin Sonatas
Release artist:  Ludwig van Beethoven / Jussi Björling
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Release artist:  Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
In release artist field, begin with composer & use a slash between the artists. Also only use artists printed on the front cover. In this case, there are more artists listed on the rear side of the case. Create links between recordings & the appropriate performers using Advanced Relationships.<br/>
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I had to fix capitalization; don't enter all caps or no caps-titles.
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===Multiple artists===
 
missa '''solemnis'''<br/>
 
missa '''solemnis'''<br/>
 
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN<br/>
 
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN<br/>
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<br/>
 
<br/>
  
A different release of the same work. More performers are listed on the cover:
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A vocal work will usually have more performers listed on the cover. Use a slash + spaces to separate artists. Most prominently featured artists first, then from top to bottom:
 
<pre>
 
<pre>
 
Release title:  Missa Solemnis
 
Release title:  Missa Solemnis
Release artist:  Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent /  
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Release artist:  Philippe Herreweghe / Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent / unfinished
                  Philippe Herreweghe
 
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
After composer; orchestra/choir, conductor & lastly soloists. This time I had to fix capitalization; don't enter all caps or no caps-titles.
 
 
 
===Single composer===
 
 
BERLIOZ<br/>
 
SYMPHONIE<br/>
 
FANTASTIQUE<br/>
 
LE CORSAIRE<br/>
 
''from [http://chandos.co.uk/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%209052 CHAN 9052]''<br/>
 
 
For the title, fixing caps & errors, joining multiple works with a slash as in multipletitlestyle.
 
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Release title:  Symphonie Fantastique / Le Corsaire
 
Release artist:  Hector Berlioz / Kungliga Filharmoniska Orkestern / Геннадий Николаевич Рождественский
 
</pre>
 
In the artist field the name will be the current version of the artist in MusicBrainz.
 
  
  
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'''Janáček''' String Quartets 1 & 2<br/>
 
'''Janáček''' String Quartets 1 & 2<br/>
 
'''Dvořák''' from Cypresses<br/>
 
'''Dvořák''' from Cypresses<br/>
New Helsinki Quartet<br/>
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<small>New Helsinki Quartet</small><br/>
 
''from apex 0927 40603 2''<br/>
 
''from apex 0927 40603 2''<br/>
  
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Release artist:  Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet
 
Release artist:  Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
But now we must add the composers to the title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.<br/>
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But now we must add the composers to the release title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.<br/>
* Use the printed version of the composer's name in the title, don't for instance change scripts.<br/>
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*''Use the printed version of the composer's name in the title, don't for instance change scripts.''<br/>
 
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===Multiple languages===
 
  
CD V-11<br/>
 
BACH<br/>
 
EDITION<br/>
 
Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210<br/>
 
Zwei Hochzeitskantaten BWV 202 & 210<br/>
 
Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit<br/>
 
''from Brilliant Classics 93102/117''<br/>
 
 
''Two... and Zwei... are actually printed in all caps but with a bigger font for all beginning letters.''<br/>
 
As with tracklists, just choose one language per release. Entered in English:
 
<pre>
 
Release title:  Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210 Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit
 
Release artist:  Johann Sebastian Bach
 
</pre>
 
The quotes are only available in German, so that's what we use.
 
  
  
 
==Various Artists==
 
==Various Artists==
  
When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field. But again, use what's printed on the front cover.<br/>
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When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field, even if they are listed on the front cover.<br/>
 
For example [http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.554103 Naxos Ten Years of Success].<br/>
 
For example [http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.554103 Naxos Ten Years of Success].<br/>
 
Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release:
 
Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release:
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Too many composers here, only performers in the artist field:
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Before NGS, this would have been a VA release, or possibly attributed only to Gruberová. Now we enter all performers in the artist field:
 
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<pre>
 
Release title:  Kunst der Koloratur
 
Release title:  Kunst der Koloratur
 
Release artist:  Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart
 
Release artist:  Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
Don't add "Various Artists" for the composers who are not listed on the cover.
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*Don't add "Various Artists" in the artist field for the composers who are not listed on the cover.
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==Release title and language==
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===Single language===
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If the title or list of works on the cover is only printed in one language, that's what we use for Release title. Even if the tracklist has multiple languages.
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The CLG 7102 Mozart violin sonatas above is an example of this. The tracklist is in both German and English, so if we enter the German version:
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Release title:  3 Violin Sonatas
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Tracklist:      1. Sonate für Violine und Klavier e-moll KV 304: Allegro
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</pre>
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*If you want to enter a translation, you're not entering an official release any more. See pseudo-releases.
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===Multiple languages===
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CD V-11<br/>
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BACH<br/>
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EDITION<br/>
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Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210<br/>
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Zwei Hochzeitskantaten BWV 202 & 210<br/>
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Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit<br/>
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''from Brilliant Classics 93102/117''<br/>
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''Two... and Zwei... are actually printed in all caps but with a bigger font for all beginning letters.''<br/>
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As with tracklists, just choose one language per release. Entered in English:
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<pre>
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Release title:  Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210 Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit
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Release artist:  Johann Sebastian Bach
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</pre>
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The quotes are only available in German, so that's what we use.
  
 
==Release Groups==
 
==Release Groups==

Revision as of 09:48, 30 May 2011

Status: My research, questions & comments for the upcoming CSG for release & release groups. This is NOT a guideline.

The general guidelines for Release group names

The old CSGv2 release & releasegroup proposal

Featured artists

The ReleaseArtist of a classical Release should include the composer(s) & performers who are listed on the front cover. Except when "Various Artists" is used, see below.

Single artist

Not so common in classical, usually the composer + a couple of performers will be listed.

WOLFGANG AMADEUS
MOZART
1756-1791
3 VIOLIN SONATAS
example from CLG 7102

Release title:   3 Violin Sonatas
Release artist:  Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

I had to fix capitalization; don't enter all caps or no caps-titles.


Multiple artists

missa solemnis
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
mannion remmert taylor hauptmann
la chapelle royale • collegium vocale gent
orchestre des champs-élysées
philippe herreweghe
from HMX 2901557

A vocal work will usually have more performers listed on the cover. Use a slash + spaces to separate artists. Most prominently featured artists first, then from top to bottom:

Release title:   Missa Solemnis
Release artist:  Philippe Herreweghe / Ludwig van Beethoven / Orchestre des Champs-Élysées / La Chapelle Royale / Collegium Vocale Gent / unfinished


Multiple composers

Janáček String Quartets 1 & 2
Dvořák from Cypresses
New Helsinki Quartet
from apex 0927 40603 2

Use a slash between multiple composers, just as with other performers:

Release title:   Janáček: String Quartets 1 & 2 / Dvořák: from Cypresses
Release artist:  Leoš Janáček / Antonín Dvořák / New Helsinki Quartet

But now we must add the composers to the release title, or it could be unclear who wrote what.

  • Use the printed version of the composer's name in the title, don't for instance change scripts.


The same principle applies for 3 composers and so on, but see below for information about when to use "Various Artists".



Various Artists

When dealing with "samplers" & some compilations, we can't add every possible performer or composer in the artist field, even if they are listed on the front cover.
For example Naxos Ten Years of Success.
Here we are clearly dealing with an "Various Artists"-release:

Release title:   Ten Years of Success
Release artist:  Various Artists

But mostly there will be one or more performer to use:
ADAM · ALABIEFF · DELL'ACQUA · DELIBES · GLIÈRE · RACHMANINOFF · PROCH · STRAUSS
The Art of Coloratura • Kunst der Koloratur • L'Art de la coloratura
EDITA GRUBEROVA
Kurt Eichhorn Dirigent
Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart


Before NGS, this would have been a VA release, or possibly attributed only to Gruberová. Now we enter all performers in the artist field:

Release title:   Kunst der Koloratur
Release artist:  Edita Gruberová / Kurt Eichhorn / Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart
  • Don't add "Various Artists" in the artist field for the composers who are not listed on the cover.


Release title and language

Single language

If the title or list of works on the cover is only printed in one language, that's what we use for Release title. Even if the tracklist has multiple languages. The CLG 7102 Mozart violin sonatas above is an example of this. The tracklist is in both German and English, so if we enter the German version:

Release title:   3 Violin Sonatas
Tracklist:       1. Sonate für Violine und Klavier e-moll KV 304: Allegro
  • If you want to enter a translation, you're not entering an official release any more. See pseudo-releases.


Multiple languages

CD V-11
BACH
EDITION
Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210
Zwei Hochzeitskantaten BWV 202 & 210
Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit
from Brilliant Classics 93102/117

Two... and Zwei... are actually printed in all caps but with a bigger font for all beginning letters.
As with tracklists, just choose one language per release. Entered in English:

Release title:   Two Wedding Cantatas BWV 202 & 210 Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten / O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit
Release artist:  Johann Sebastian Bach

The quotes are only available in German, so that's what we use.

Release Groups

Will in many cases have the same name and artists as the release. But since there can be more than one release in a single releasegroup, there are 2 potential issues:

  • an original release and a reissue can have different titles
  • the releases within a release group can have different languages, we must choose one for the group name


Original/reissue titles

Use the title of the first release (OriginalData), or the earliest release available in the release group.


Different languages

This is tricky... First release? Chances are it's an international relase... Use English? What if we can only choose between German or French? Recording country? Suggestions?

  • never use the language of a pseudo-release for the release group.