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== Application ==
= Application =


This guideline applies to live [[Release|releases]], [[Release Group|release groups]], and [[Recording|recordings]].
This guideline applies to live [[Release|releases]], [[Release Group|release groups]], and [[Recording|recordings]].


== Guidelines ==
= Guidelines =


Titles for live entities should generally follow the normal style guidelines, with the below exceptions.
Titles for live entities should generally follow the normal style guidelines, with the below exceptions.


=== Releases ===
== Releases ==


Releases with a title, such as most live CDs, should use their own title per the general [[Style/Titles|titles guide]]. Live releases without titles, such as audience recordings and untitled official live releases, should follow the ''Release Group'' rules below for the release title.
Releases with a title, such as most live CDs, should use their own title per the general [[Style/Titles|titles guide]]. Live releases without titles, such as audience recordings and untitled official live releases, should follow the ''Release Group'' rules below for the release title.


=== Release Groups ===
== Release Groups ==


Live Release Groups, and untitled live Releases, should be named by concatenating the date and location, including as much information as is known, following the format below.
Live Release Groups, and untitled live Releases, should be named by concatenating the date and location, including as much information as is known, following the format below.
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*''Event'' is the name of the festival (e.g. ''Lollapalooza'', ''Woodstock'', etc.) or TV/radio program (e.g. ''Saturday Night Live'', ''Grammy Awards''), which may be included if applicable, particularly if the event/program name is more significant than the venue. It should not be used for tour names or generic event descriptions such as "in-store event"- this information should go in the annotation.
*''Event'' is the name of the festival (e.g. ''Lollapalooza'', ''Woodstock'', etc.) or TV/radio program (e.g. ''Saturday Night Live'', ''Grammy Awards''), which may be included if applicable, particularly if the event/program name is more significant than the venue. It should not be used for tour names or generic event descriptions such as "in-store event"- this information should go in the annotation.
*''Venue'' is the name of the location (hotel, hall, stadium, etc.) where the concert took place. This may be blank if unknown, if the location doesn't have a name (such as some festival sites), or if the event name by itself is unambiguous.
*''Venue'' is the name of the location (hotel, hall, stadium, etc.) where the concert took place. This may be blank if unknown, if the location doesn't have a name (such as some festival sites), or if the event name by itself is unambiguous.
* ''City'' can be the city, town or village where the concert was held. Additional disambiguation should be given if there are multiple identically-named cities in the same state, e.g. ''Franklin, Franklin County, NY, USA'' vs ''Franklin, Delaware County, NY, USA''.
* ''City'' can be the city, town or village where the concert was held.
* ''State'' in this context means any subdivision between city and country, and may be referred to as province, prefecture, county, etc. It should always be included for USA and Canada, or when needed for disambiguation between 2 or more cities of the same name in the same country (ex: ''Sakura, Chiba, Japan'' vs ''Sakura, Tochigi, Japan''). Otherwise, it may be left blank. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_abbreviations here] for a list of US State abbreviations.
* ''State'' in this context means any subdivision between city and country, and may be referred to as province, prefecture, county, etc. It should always be included for USA and Canada, or when needed for disambiguation between 2 or more cities of the same name in the same country (e.g. ''Sakura, Chiba, Japan'' vs ''Sakura, Tochigi, Japan''). Otherwise, it may be left blank. Note that an additional subdivision level may be necessary for disambiguation in some cases (e.g. ''Franklin, Franklin County, NY, USA'' vs ''Franklin, Delaware County, NY, USA''). See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_abbreviations here] for a list of US State abbreviations.
* ''Country'' is the country.
* ''Country'' is the country.


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* [[ReleaseGroup:69d9c35f-2dd1-44f4-9ccf-a8a97cddcaec|1999-11-11: MTV Europe Music Awards, Dublin, Ireland]] - event name known, venue unknown
* [[ReleaseGroup:69d9c35f-2dd1-44f4-9ccf-a8a97cddcaec|1999-11-11: MTV Europe Music Awards, Dublin, Ireland]] - event name known, venue unknown


===Grouping===

Multiple live releases of the same concert should be grouped in the same Release Group. For example:
Multiple live releases of the same concert should be grouped in the same Release Group. For example:
* [[ReleaseGroup:1a0bc80a-4346-48f1-9086-87954cd8c42b|1993-10-05: First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA]] (Release group) contains the following releases:
* [[ReleaseGroup:1a0bc80a-4346-48f1-9086-87954cd8c42b|1993-10-05: First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA]] (Release group) contains the following releases:
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** [[Release:070c7bb4-38f4-4266-ac3a-c1ab29f10d60|2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA]] (untitled bootleg release)
** [[Release:070c7bb4-38f4-4266-ac3a-c1ab29f10d60|2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA]] (untitled bootleg release)


===Additional Notes===
Live concerts with a single, unique release title should extend the title of the release group with date and location information as above, using the syntax "[YYYY-MM-DD: ]Title[: Location]". If there is an alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title, such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon.
Live concerts with a single, unique release title should extend the title of the release group with date and location information as above, using the syntax "YYYY-MM-DD: Title: Location". If there is an alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title, such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon.
* ''Example:'' [[ReleaseGroup:97c34c74-b2a2-3970-995b-238cd0fbb124|1980-12-21: Before the Exile! Rainbow Theatre, London, UK]]
* ''Example:'' [[ReleaseGroup:97c34c74-b2a2-3970-995b-238cd0fbb124|1980-12-21: Before the Exile! Rainbow Theatre, London, UK]]


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This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. [[Release:eeca59f9-cf55-4aba-89f7-f4bae8247ff5|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]]. It does not apply to live compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions.


⚫
This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. [[Release:eeca59f9-cf55-4aba-89f7-f4bae8247ff5|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]]. It does not apply to live compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions.
''Examples:''
''Examples:''
* [[ReleaseGroup:42f8c188-4850-38a3-889e-e1b956be12fb|Elvis Has Just Left the Building]] - ''a collection of live Led Zeppelin songs, including several Elvis covers, spanning multiple, non-consecutive dates.''
* [[ReleaseGroup:42f8c188-4850-38a3-889e-e1b956be12fb|Elvis Has Just Left the Building]] - ''a collection of live Led Zeppelin songs, including several Elvis covers, spanning multiple, non-consecutive dates.''
* [[ReleaseGroup:0f0210bc-2cd7-34ec-83a3-2644939c25d7|A Highway of Diamonds, Volume 1: The Never Ending Tour]] - ''compilation of live tracks from many different concerts over a period of 9 years''
* [[ReleaseGroup:0f0210bc-2cd7-34ec-83a3-2644939c25d7|A Highway of Diamonds, Volume 1: The Never Ending Tour]] - ''compilation of live tracks from many different concerts over a period of 9 years''


=== Recordings ===
== Recordings ==


For live recordings, enter the song name as the recording title and "live" as the recording disambiguation comment. If the date and/or location is known, this should also be added to the disambiguation comment following the same format as above.
For live recordings, enter the song name as the recording title and "live" as the recording disambiguation comment. If the date and/or location is known, this should also be added to the disambiguation comment following the same format as above, under Release Groups.


''Examples''
''Examples''

Revision as of 15:57, 23 August 2013

note: rename page/title from Live bootlegs to Live entities for generality (remove this section when/if it ever goes through :P)


Status: This page describes an active style guideline proposal and is not official.



Proposal number: RFC-STYLE-228
Champion: User:th1rtyf0ur
Current status: RFC
Initial Discussion


JIRA ticket STYLE-228

Application

This guideline applies to live releases, release groups, and recordings.

Guidelines

Titles for live entities should generally follow the normal style guidelines, with the below exceptions.

Releases

Releases with a title, such as most live CDs, should use their own title per the general titles guide. Live releases without titles, such as audience recordings and untitled official live releases, should follow the Release Group rules below for the release title.

Release Groups

Live Release Groups, and untitled live Releases, should be named by concatenating the date and location, including as much information as is known, following the format below.

Syntax: "YYYY-MM-DD: Event, Venue, City, State, Country".

  • YYYY-MM-DD is the date, formatted year-month-day. Month and day should be zero-padded, e.g. 2001-05-07 for May 7, 2001. If the month and/or day are unknown, they may be omitted (e.g. 1975, 2003-08).
  • Event is the name of the festival (e.g. Lollapalooza, Woodstock, etc.) or TV/radio program (e.g. Saturday Night Live, Grammy Awards), which may be included if applicable, particularly if the event/program name is more significant than the venue. It should not be used for tour names or generic event descriptions such as "in-store event"- this information should go in the annotation.
  • Venue is the name of the location (hotel, hall, stadium, etc.) where the concert took place. This may be blank if unknown, if the location doesn't have a name (such as some festival sites), or if the event name by itself is unambiguous.
  • City can be the city, town or village where the concert was held.
  • State in this context means any subdivision between city and country, and may be referred to as province, prefecture, county, etc. It should always be included for USA and Canada, or when needed for disambiguation between 2 or more cities of the same name in the same country (e.g. Sakura, Chiba, Japan vs Sakura, Tochigi, Japan). Otherwise, it may be left blank. Note that an additional subdivision level may be necessary for disambiguation in some cases (e.g. Franklin, Franklin County, NY, USA vs Franklin, Delaware County, NY, USA). See here for a list of US State abbreviations.
  • Country is the country.

Examples:

Grouping

Multiple live releases of the same concert should be grouped in the same Release Group. For example:

Additional Notes

Live concerts with a single, unique release title should extend the title of the release group with date and location information as above, using the syntax "YYYY-MM-DD: Title: Location". If there is an alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title, such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon.

This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. 2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands. It does not apply to live compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions.

Examples:

Recordings

For live recordings, enter the song name as the recording title and "live" as the recording disambiguation comment. If the date and/or location is known, this should also be added to the disambiguation comment following the same format as above, under Release Groups.

Examples


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