User:Th1rtyf0ur/Style/Specific types of releases/Live bootlegs

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note: rename page/title from Live bootlegs to Live entities for generality (remove this section when/if it ever goes through :P)

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Status: This page describes an active style guideline proposal and is not official.

Proposal number: RFC-STYLE-228 Champion: User:th1rtyf0ur Current status: RFC Initial Discussion JIRA ticket STYLE-228

Application

This guideline applies to live releases, release groups, and recordings.

Guidelines

Titles for live entities should generally follow the normal style guidelines, with the below exceptions.

Releases

Releases with a title, such as most live CDs, should use their own title per the general titles guide. Live releases without titles, such as audience recordings and untitled official live releases, should follow the Release Group rules below for the release title.

Release Groups

Grouping

Multiple live releases of the same concert should be grouped in the same Release Group. For example:

• 1993-10-05: First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA (Release group) contains the following releases:
  • 1993-10-05: First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA (untitled bootleg release)
  • Feeling Like a Smashed Pumpkin (bootleg with title)
• 2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (Release group) contains the following releases:
  • 2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (untitled official CD release)
  • 2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (untitled official digital release)
  • 2008-12-07: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA (untitled bootleg release)

Titling

Live Release Groups, and untitled live Releases, should be named by concatenating the date and location, including as much information as is known and appropriate, following the format below.

Syntax: "YYYY-MM-DD: [Title: ][Event, ][Venue, ]City, [State, ]Country".

• YYYY-MM-DD is the date, formatted year-month-day. Month and day should be zero-padded, e.g. 2001-05-07 for May 7, 2001. If the month and/or day are unknown, they may be omitted (e.g. 1975, 2003-08).
• Title is included if the release group/concert contains either a single, unique release title, or an official, titled release. If there is an alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title, such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon. If there are multiple bootleg titles for the same concert (and no official release title), this field should be omitted.
• Event is the name of the festival (e.g. Lollapalooza, Woodstock, etc.) or TV/radio program (e.g. Saturday Night Live, Grammy Awards), which may be included if applicable, particularly if the event/program name is more significant than the venue. It should not be used for tour names or generic event descriptions such as "in-store event"- this information should go in the annotation.
• Venue is the name of the location (hotel, hall, stadium, etc.) where the concert took place. This may be blank if unknown, if the location doesn't have a name (such as some festival sites), or if the event name by itself is unambiguous.
• City can be the city, town or village where the concert was held.
• State may be referred to as province, prefecture, etc. depending on the country, and should be included where commonly used (e.g. USA, Canada), or when needed to distinguish between cities of the same name in the same country (e.g. Sakura, Chiba, Japan vs Sakura, Tochigi, Japan, or Perth, TAS, Australia vs Perth, WA, Australia).
• Country is the country.

Examples:

• 2000-11-29: United Center, Chicago, IL, USA
• 2007-08-05: Lollapalooza, Grant Park, Chicago, IL, USA - includes festival name.
• 1999-11-11: MTV Europe Music Awards, Dublin, Ireland - event name known, venue unknown
• 1980-12-21: Before the Exile! Rainbow Theatre, London, UK - release group with a single, titled release, ending in alternate punctuation
• 2012-12-10: Oceania Live in NYC: Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY, USA - release group with an official, titled release

Additional Notes

This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. 2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands. It does not apply to live compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions.

Examples:

• Elvis Has Just Left the Building - a collection of live Led Zeppelin songs, including several Elvis covers, spanning multiple, non-consecutive dates.
• A Highway of Diamonds, Volume 1: The Never Ending Tour - compilation of live tracks from many different concerts over a period of 9 years

Recordings

For live recordings, enter the song name as the recording title and "live" as the recording disambiguation comment. If the date and/or location is known, this should also be added to the disambiguation comment following the same format as above, under Release Groups.

Examples

• Train in Vain (live, 1998-12-14: Telewest Arena, Newcastle, UK)
• Wake Up (live, Los Angeles, CA, USA)
• The Dance (live, 2002)
• Candle in the Wind (single edit) (live)