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''Note:'' This guideline applies to the titling of a bootleg [[Release Group|release group]]. For titling of a live [[Recording|recording]], see [[Style/Recording#Live recordings|live recordings]]. For titling of a release, see the [[Style/Track_and_release_titles|track and release titles guideline]] (unless the release is untitled, in which case you can use the release group title as determined below).
''Note:'' This guideline applies to the titling of a bootleg [[Release Group|release group]]. For titling of a live [[Recording|recording]], see [[Style/Recording#Live recordings|live recordings]]. For titling of a release, see the [[Style/Track_and_release_titles|track and release titles guideline]] (unless the release is untitled, in which case you can use the release group title as determined below).

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Status: This page describes an active style guideline proposal and is not official.



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JIRA ticket STYLE-228

Note: This guideline applies to the titling of a bootleg release group. For titling of a live recording, see live recordings. For titling of a release, see the track and release titles guideline (unless the release is untitled, in which case you can use the release group title as determined below).

Guidelines

The following rules apply when titling a live bootleg release group:

  1. Live bootlegs without a title must be named by concatenating its date and location information.
    • Syntax: "YYYY-MM-DD: Location".
  2. Live bootlegs with a single, unique release title should extend the title of the release group with date and location information as follows:
    • Syntax: "[YYYY-MM-DD: ]Title[: Location]". Note that this only applies to the release group and not to the release itself.
    • If there is alternative dividing punctuation mark at the end of the title such as the question mark (?) or exclamation point (!), use that mark instead of the colon.
  3. The location must be formatted using the city and country, and may include a venue and/or state.
    • Syntax: "[Venue, ]City, [State, ]Country".

Notes

  • The parts in square brackets are optional.
  • YYYY-MM-DD is the date of the recording including the year (YYYY), month (MM) and day of month (DD).
  • Venue is the name of the location where the concert took place (name of the hotel, stadium, hall, etc.).
  • City can be the city, town or village.
  • State is to further distinguish cities with identical names (such as Pasadena, TX in Texas vs Pasadena, CA in California) and may be referred to as a province in some countries. See State Abbreviations.
  • Country is the country.

Additional Notes

For live concerts that have multiple bootleg releases with different titles, the release group title should use only the date and location as detailed above, without any additional titles. Each release should then be listed under its own title. Releases without a title should use the same title as the release group. If there are multiple releases from different sources, these should be distinguished in the release's disambiguation note.

This guideline must not be used for live bootleg compilations, which are releases that collect tracks from different live sessions, e.g. A Highway of Diamonds, Volume 1: The Never Ending Tour.

This guideline can be applied to release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks (those can be live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings), e.g. 2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands.

If a live bootleg release is recorded in the Netherlands, put just "Netherlands" as the country as per the listing on the Release Country page.

Rationale

In a lot of cases the most important information for live bootlegs is the date when the concert took place. Hiding this information for bootlegs where the person who compiled the release added a title means that it is harder to find a special recording of a live session, because live bootlegs often don't have a release date.

Adding the venue is useful for finding all concerts an artist performed in one city over the years or all concerts that took place in a special location by using the search interface. Besides that this kind of information would be lost or nearly lost when it was added to the annotation.

Examples

Live bootlegs without a title

2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
1993-02-12 to 1993-02-26: Pachyderm Studios, Cannon Falls, MN, USA
A studio session bootleg spanning several consecutive dates.

Live bootlegs with a well-known title

Gaslight Tapes
(may be replaced with a better one, as this is quasi-legitimate).
Elvis Has Just Left the Building
(A collection of live Elvis covers by Led Zeppelin spanning multiple dates. Should not be extended.)
1993-10-05: First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN, USA
A complete show, or at least all tracks from the same show, released under multiple titles, using the date and location for the release group and untitled release, and the bootleg title for that release.
1980-12-21: Before the Exile! Rainbow Theatre, London, UK
This shows how punctuation marks replace the colon.


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