Talk:Recording

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When are two recordings the same

It would be good to mention when it's appropriate to merge recordings.

The following cases seem like they might need to be mentioned:

  • Same audio data, but silence at beginning or end of recording
  • Same audio data except for but fade in/out at beginning or end of recording
  • Same audio data except for crossfade from another recording at beginning or end of recording
  • Same audio data except for other stuff (e.g. talking) at beginning or end of recording
  • Same audio data except for small part (e.g. fade) removed at beginning or end to shorten one
  • Same audio data except for part removed from the middle to shorten one
  • Same audio data except for short parts replaced with silence or another tone (e.g. a "clean" version of a song)
  • Volume change but otherwise identical audio data
  • Audio data remastered in a way that's a simple transformation from one recording to the other (e.g. re-equalized)
  • Degradation of audio data in an analog copy of a recording (compare this to above)
  • Audio data remastered in a way that requires access to more information (e.g. a particular instrument made louder)
  • others?

Some discussion of this has already occurred on the mailing list, but it should be written up in documentation form and added to this wiki page. Dolphinling 06:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, is that a merge-list or a no-merge-list ? — a remastered release is same recordings ? PUID are not the same for the most (remasters) but ISRC are the same. It’s the same recording in the sense that it is not a re-recording. But is it the same MB recording ? I’d like it to be the same IMO. Jesus2099 14:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
See Style/Recording. The ISRCs are *supposed* to be different, but labels don't always follow the rules. --Nikki 16:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
So a MB recording is not exactly a recording. ? To me a recording is when you record a performance then all the remixes and remasters can be done afterwards it will still be the same recording. Anyway, I have these remasters with same ISRC so I just merge them, I don’t think I’m wrong doing so. I can base on ISRC and let them choose for me, right ? Jesus2099 10:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I imagine that depends on the definition you use (none of the definitions I've seen so far have been particularly decisive). Anyway, yes, an MB recording is post-mixing and mastering. It's not the best name I guess (not that there's really any term that wouldn't be confusing and/or ambiguous), but we are using the term in the same way that the ISRC (a.k.a. International Standard Recording Code ;)) people do. --Nikki 19:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)