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| style="background:lightblue" | To Recording, decided in IRC Meeting |
| style="background:lightblue" | To Recording, decided in [http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2010/2010-08/2010-08-24.html#T18-43-30-830313 IRC Meeting] |
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| style="background:lightgreen" | To Work, decided in IRC Meeting |
| style="background:lightgreen" | To Work, decided in [http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2010/2010-08/2010-08-24.html#T18-43-30-830313 IRC Meeting] |
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| style="background:pink" | Both, decided in IRC Meeting |
| style="background:pink" | Both, decided in [http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2010/2010-08/2010-08-24.html#T18-43-30-830313 IRC Meeting] |
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| style="background:red" | Still uncertain and undecided |
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| style="background:plum" | To Recording-Work |
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| style="background:green" | The NGS migration scripts match the specification described in this document |
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| style="background:red" | The NGS migration scripts either don't handle this AR type or do something different |
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! Comment |
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! Status in migration scripts |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Arranger Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Arranger Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Artist-Track |
| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Artist-Track |
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| align="center" style="background: |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> Migrate as Artist-Recording. Add Artist-Work. |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Art Direction Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Art Direction Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Audio Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Audio Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Booker Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Booker Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Chorus Master Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Chorus Master Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Compiler Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Compiler Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> see discussion in Compilation Relationship Type, below |
| <!-- Comment --> see discussion in Compilation Relationship Type, below |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Composer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Composer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Conductor Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Conductor Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Creative Direction Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Creative Direction Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Design and Illustration Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Design and Illustration Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Editor Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Editor Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Graphic Design Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Graphic Design Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Instrumentator Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Instrumentator Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Legal Representation Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Legal Representation Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> Could also be Artist-Work, but for conversion purposes we'll keep it on this until NGS. |
| <!-- Comment --> Could also be Artist-Work, but for conversion purposes we'll keep it on this until NGS. |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Librettist Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Librettist Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Liner Notes Author Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Liner Notes Author Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Live Sound Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Live Sound Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Lyricist Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Lyricist Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Mastering Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Mastering Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Merchandising Provider Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Merchandising Provider Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1026 MBS-1026] - currently migrated as Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Mix Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Mix Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Mix-DJ Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Mix-DJ Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Orchestra Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Orchestra Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Orchestrator Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Orchestrator Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion. |
| <!-- Comment --> Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion. |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Performer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Performer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Photography Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Photography Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Producer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Producer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Programming Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Programming Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Publisher Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Publisher Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1026 MBS-1026] - currently migrated as Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Recording Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Recording Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Remixer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Remixer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Samples Artist Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Samples Artist Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Sound Engineer Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Sound Engineer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Travel Agent Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Travel Agent Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Writer Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Artist-Track |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Artist-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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===Release-Track=== |
===Release-Track=== |
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{| width='80%' |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Release-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Release-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> Refers to actual audio data. |
| <!-- Comment --> Refers to actual audio data. |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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===Label-Track=== |
===Label-Track=== |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Publisher Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Publisher Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1026 MBS-1026] - currently migrated as Label-Recording |
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===Track-Track=== |
===Track-Track=== |
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! NGS |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Compilation Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> Designates that a single entity (i.e. not more than one recording/work) draws from multiple entities. Thus: a specific Recording from several Recordings; it won't be Works in this case, because that would be a Medley (at least for conversion to NGS). In converting data, will be converted to a Recording-Recording AR, since Work-Work is more likely to be Medley. |
| <!-- Comment --> Designates that a single entity (i.e. not more than one recording/work) draws from multiple entities. Thus: a specific Recording from several Recordings; it won't be Works in this case, because that would be a Medley (at least for conversion to NGS). In converting data, will be converted to a Recording-Recording AR, since Work-Work is more likely to be Medley. |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Cover Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Cover Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
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| align="center" style="background: |
| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
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| <!-- Comment --> Without translated attribute: Migrate as attribute of Recording-Work performance relationship.<br>With translated attribute: Migrate as attribute of Work-Work other version relationship. |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1514 MBS-1514] - currently migrated as Recording-Recording |
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| <!-- AR --> [[DJ Mix Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[DJ Mix Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Earliest Release Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Earliest Release Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> Deprecated AR Type: such recordings should be merged |
| <!-- Comment --> Deprecated AR Type: such recordings should be merged (an automatic merge is attempted during NGS conversion) |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Karaoke Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Karaoke Version Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | Track-Track |
| align="center" | Track-Track |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| Recording-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| Recording-Recording |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Mash-up Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Mash-up Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Recording |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Medley Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Medley Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-Track |
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| align="center" style="background: |
| align="center" style="background:plum"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> Migrate as Recording-Work. Add Work-Work relationship. |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Other Version Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Other Version Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-Work |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-Work |
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| <!-- Comment --> Should now just mean "same Work"; should be merged - deprecated. Many of these situations will need to make new Work-Work ARs (see section below) |
| <!-- Comment --> Should now just mean "same Work"; should be merged - deprecated. Many of these situations will need to make new Work-Work ARs (see section below) |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Remaster Relationship Type]] |
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| <!-- Comment --> Sampling refers to actual audio data, hence recording for the source. The choice of specific recording to sample from wouldn't change the work (i.e. two Recordings which each sample a different Recording could still be the same Work; hence Recording for the sampling entity. |
| <!-- Comment --> Sampling refers to actual audio data, hence recording for the source. The choice of specific recording to sample from wouldn't change the work (i.e. two Recordings which each sample a different Recording could still be the same Work; hence Recording for the sampling entity. |
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====Cover Relationship Type Discussion==== |
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I don't really agree with [[Cover Relationship Type]] being kept as recording-recording. I would rather see it as a recording-work or work-work (depending of our final decision about [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2010-April/009405.html the nature of a work]). [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 23:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC) |
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: I mostly agree with this. In the typical case, if the original artist made multiple recordings of a work, the covering artist may not even think about which one in particular they're covering. However, if it's recording-work, how would you deal with a [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1584150/20080326/story.jhtml cover of a cover]? --[[User:Dolphinling|Dolphinling]] 05:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:: I'd agree with murdos as well. My sense, from the style discussions, was that we'd have a "tree" of covers; the example I kept giving is In the Pines/Where Did You Sleep Last Night, where both songs can be (and have been) traced through several variant versions, back to a single original song. That's clearly work-work; Nirvana covered Lead Belly's version, and Lead Belly covered the original folk song, but some of the other branches in that tree have 4+ different artists, each covering that latest variant, not the original. Another example of a famous song with this type of multiple variant branching tree type of thing would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maid_Freed_from_the_Gallows . [[User:BrianFreud|BrianFreud]] 03:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC) |
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: +1 for [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] proposal. I see this as a Work-Work AR --[[User:ChurruKa|ChurruKa]] 20:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
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====Medley Relationship Type Discussion==== |
====Medley Relationship Type Discussion==== |
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Medley requires a new performance, according to [[Mix Terminology]], so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level. |
Medley requires a new performance, according to [[Mix Terminology]], so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level. |
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: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC) |
: Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. [[User:Murdos|Murdos]] 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:: That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:: For some reason I didn't go over that option in my head -- perhaps there was a reason for this that I've forgotten, but it seems to me that you're right and this should be Recording-Work, differentiating it from Compilation isamuch as Compilation is Recording-Recording. --[[User:Ianmcorvidae|Ianmcorvidae]] 18:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:: Most of the time when I hear of a medley, it's a new arrangement of the incorporated songs, e.g. a Piano medley of pop songs, or like [http://musicbrainz.org/track/db129872-710d-4730-9625-56bcc28f6322.html Power of Flower / あしたのわたし / Steppin' / 100点満点なんかじゃない!], an orchestral arrangement. In particular, the songs are often transposed into matching key and have bridges added between sections. I would consider this to be a new work (in most cases). --[[User:Kepstin|Kepstin]] 19:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:: Some interesting cases to consider: |
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::* In traditional (Irish, New England, etc.) folk music, medleys are closer to the rule than the exception. The level of creative thought applied to the arranging can range from "Hey, let's play this tune, then that one" (typical of jam sessions, e.g., which could be recorded) to the truly masterful (e.g. [http://musicbrainz.org/track/697bddc6-05a3-439a-b0bd-579b3a327953.html Melting]) where how the tunes are combined is more integral to the piece than any individual tune. |
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::* [http://kumikyoku.rintaun.net/wiki/Kumikyoku Kumikyoku Nico Nico Douga] (not in MB) is a medley which has been covered at least 100 times (see http://kumikyoku.rintaun.net/). These covers are very specifically covers of the medley as a unit, not simply other people playing the same set of songs, and indicate that people see the medley as an independent composition. |
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:: In my opinion, then, medleys run the spectrum from mostly just a recording to clearly a new work. Rather than try to find a place in the spectrum to draw the line, it's less ambiguous to call them all new works. --[[User:Dolphinling|Dolphinling]] 05:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::: Another example of a medley seen as an independent composition afterwards is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_a_Gigolo_%28song%29 Just a Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody] --[[User:Perstar|Perstar]] 17:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC) |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Booker Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Creative Commons Licensed Download Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Creative Commons Licensed Download Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Creative Direction Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Design and Illustration Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Design and Illustration Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Free Download Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Graphic Design Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Has Lyrics At Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[Has Lyrics At Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Has Score At Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[IBDb Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[IOBDb Relationship Type]] |
| <!-- AR --> [[IOBDb Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-URL |
| align="center" | <!-- Now --> Track-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightgreen"| <!-- NGS --> Work-URL |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:green" | OK |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Legal Representation Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| <!-- Comment --> As with other legal representation AR, could also be to Works, but we'll convert to Recording for now |
| <!-- Comment --> As with other legal representation AR, could also be to Works, but we'll convert to Recording for now |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Merchandising Provider Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
| align="center" style="background:pink"| <!-- NGS --> Both |
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| <!-- Comment --> |
| <!-- Comment --> |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1026 MBS-1026] - currently migrated as Recording-URL |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Paid Download Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| <!-- AR --> [[Photography Relationship Type]] |
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| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
| align="center" style="background:lightblue"| <!-- NGS --> Recording-URL |
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| align="center" style="background:red" | Depends on [http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1026 MBS-1026] - currently migrated as Recording-URL |
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| For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
| For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
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The other example I thought of in the chat of other version being used where the works wouldn't be merged was translated versions, e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/d96b100b-86bd-4e6c-a950-5283be973d7e/relationships and http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/028d72eb-3c52-4683-a5c6-932663245c58/relationships --[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 18:33, 4 November 2011
Primer
This page describes the automatic conversions that will take place for ARs on update to NGS. This only applies to these updates – some of these may also end up having other acceptable entity pairings for new relationships created after NGS; that's not to be covered here. The last section is an initial list of Work-Work ARs to be created, some of them to replace/correct ARs in the preceding lists.
The goal at this time is to resolve any outstanding issues that remain.
Legend
To Recording, decided in IRC Meeting | To Work, decided in IRC Meeting |
Both, decided in IRC Meeting | Not discussed in IRC meeting |
Still uncertain and undecided | To Recording-Work |
The NGS migration scripts match the specification described in this document |
The NGS migration scripts either don't handle this AR type or do something different |
Old ARs
Artist-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment | Status in migration scripts |
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Arranger Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | Migrate as Artist-Recording. Add Artist-Work. | OK |
Art Direction Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Audio Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Booker Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Chorus Master Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Compiler Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | see discussion in Compilation Relationship Type, below | OK |
Composer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | OK | |
Conductor Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Creative Direction Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Design and Illustration Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Editor Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Graphic Design Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Instrumentator Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | OK | |
Legal Representation Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | Could also be Artist-Work, but for conversion purposes we'll keep it on this until NGS. | OK |
Librettist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | OK | |
Liner Notes Author Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Live Sound Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Lyricist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | OK | |
Mastering Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Both | Depends on MBS-1026 - currently migrated as Artist-Recording | |
Mix Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Mix-DJ Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Orchestra Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Orchestrator Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | Decided to keep it this way for now; may also be made Artist-Recording post-NGS, depending on discussion. | OK |
Performer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Photography Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Producer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Programming Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Publisher Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Both | Depends on MBS-1026 - currently migrated as Artist-Recording | |
Recording Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Remixer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Samples Artist Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Sound Engineer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Travel Agent Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Recording | OK | |
Writer Relationship Type | Artist-Track | Artist-Work | OK |
Release-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment | Status in migration scripts |
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Samples Relationship Type | Release-Track | Release-Recording | Refers to actual audio data. | OK |
Label-Track
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment | Status in migration scripts |
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Publisher Relationship Type | Label-Track | Both | Depends on MBS-1026 - currently migrated as Label-Recording |
Track-Track
Note: Track-Track ARs might become either Recording-Recording, or Recording-Work, or Work-Work (and maybe also Work-Recording).
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment | Status in migration scripts |
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Compilation Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Designates that a single entity (i.e. not more than one recording/work) draws from multiple entities. Thus: a specific Recording from several Recordings; it won't be Works in this case, because that would be a Medley (at least for conversion to NGS). In converting data, will be converted to a Recording-Recording AR, since Work-Work is more likely to be Medley. | OK |
Cover Relationship Type | Track-Track | Both | Without translated attribute: Migrate as attribute of Recording-Work performance relationship. With translated attribute: Migrate as attribute of Work-Work other version relationship. |
Depends on MBS-1514 - currently migrated as Recording-Recording |
DJ Mix Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | OK | |
Earliest Release Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Deprecated AR Type: such recordings should be merged (an automatic merge is attempted during NGS conversion) | OK |
Karaoke Version Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | OK | |
Mash-up Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | OK | |
Medley Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Work | Migrate as Recording-Work. Add Work-Work relationship. | Depends on MBS-1514 - currently migrated as Work-Work |
Other Version Relationship Type | Track-Track | Work-Work | Should now just mean "same Work"; should be merged - deprecated. Many of these situations will need to make new Work-Work ARs (see section below)
Note: merge should be manual, not automatic during NGS conversion because this AR type is a bit fuzzy. |
OK |
Remaster Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | OK | |
Remix Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | OK | |
Samples Relationship Type | Track-Track | Recording-Recording | Sampling refers to actual audio data, hence recording for the source. The choice of specific recording to sample from wouldn't change the work (i.e. two Recordings which each sample a different Recording could still be the same Work; hence Recording for the sampling entity. | OK |
Cover Relationship Type Discussion
I don't really agree with Cover Relationship Type being kept as recording-recording. I would rather see it as a recording-work or work-work (depending of our final decision about the nature of a work). Murdos 23:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I mostly agree with this. In the typical case, if the original artist made multiple recordings of a work, the covering artist may not even think about which one in particular they're covering. However, if it's recording-work, how would you deal with a cover of a cover? --Dolphinling 05:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd agree with murdos as well. My sense, from the style discussions, was that we'd have a "tree" of covers; the example I kept giving is In the Pines/Where Did You Sleep Last Night, where both songs can be (and have been) traced through several variant versions, back to a single original song. That's clearly work-work; Nirvana covered Lead Belly's version, and Lead Belly covered the original folk song, but some of the other branches in that tree have 4+ different artists, each covering that latest variant, not the original. Another example of a famous song with this type of multiple variant branching tree type of thing would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maid_Freed_from_the_Gallows . BrianFreud 03:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- +1 for Murdos proposal. I see this as a Work-Work AR --ChurruKa 20:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Medley Relationship Type Discussion
Medley requires a new performance, according to Mix Terminology, so the audio data is not the same -- hence should be Work-level.
- Ok, but do we consider that a medley is a new work? If we don't, this AR can become a Recording-Work AR linking the medley recording to each performed Work. Murdos 22:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- That bit confused me in the chat, someone mentioned that medleys are performances of existing works, but then decided that a work-work relationship makes more sense. I wouldn't personally consider the ones I've heard as new works, so a recording-work relationship would make sense to me. --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- For some reason I didn't go over that option in my head -- perhaps there was a reason for this that I've forgotten, but it seems to me that you're right and this should be Recording-Work, differentiating it from Compilation isamuch as Compilation is Recording-Recording. --Ianmcorvidae 18:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Most of the time when I hear of a medley, it's a new arrangement of the incorporated songs, e.g. a Piano medley of pop songs, or like Power of Flower / あしたのわたし / Steppin' / 100点満点なんかじゃない!, an orchestral arrangement. In particular, the songs are often transposed into matching key and have bridges added between sections. I would consider this to be a new work (in most cases). --Kepstin 19:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Some interesting cases to consider:
- In traditional (Irish, New England, etc.) folk music, medleys are closer to the rule than the exception. The level of creative thought applied to the arranging can range from "Hey, let's play this tune, then that one" (typical of jam sessions, e.g., which could be recorded) to the truly masterful (e.g. Melting) where how the tunes are combined is more integral to the piece than any individual tune.
- Kumikyoku Nico Nico Douga (not in MB) is a medley which has been covered at least 100 times (see http://kumikyoku.rintaun.net/). These covers are very specifically covers of the medley as a unit, not simply other people playing the same set of songs, and indicate that people see the medley as an independent composition.
- In my opinion, then, medleys run the spectrum from mostly just a recording to clearly a new work. Rather than try to find a place in the spectrum to draw the line, it's less ambiguous to call them all new works. --Dolphinling 05:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Another example of a medley seen as an independent composition afterwards is Just a Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody --Perstar 17:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Track-URL
AR Type | Now | NGS | Comment | Status in migration scripts |
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Art Direction Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Artist and Repertoire Support Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Booker Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Creative Commons Licensed Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Creative Direction Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Design and Illustration Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Free Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Graphic Design Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Has Lyrics At Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | OK | |
Has Score At Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | OK | |
IBDb Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | OK | |
IOBDb Relationship Type | Track-URL | Work-URL | OK | |
Legal Representation Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | As with other legal representation AR, could also be to Works, but we'll convert to Recording for now | OK |
Merchandising Provider Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Miscellaneous Role Relationship Type | Track-URL | Both | Depends on MBS-1026 - currently migrated as Recording-URL | |
Paid Download Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Photography Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Publisher Relationship Type | Track-URL | Both | Depends on MBS-1026 - currently migrated as Recording-URL | |
Recording Studio Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Samples From Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | Samples refer to actual audio data. | OK |
Travel Agent Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK | |
Streaming Music Relationship Type | Track-URL | Recording-URL | OK |
New Work-Work ARs to Create
AR Type | Comment |
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Re-arranged version | For a re-arranged version of the same Work. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aab016c-f3e8-48aa-86e0-abd221c7b501/relationships versus http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/5aaff0c1-73d0-4593-9e14-dacb925c6532/relationships for our example of this |
The other example I thought of in the chat of other version being used where the works wouldn't be merged was translated versions, e.g. http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/d96b100b-86bd-4e6c-a950-5283be973d7e/relationships and http://test.musicbrainz.org/work/028d72eb-3c52-4683-a5c6-932663245c58/relationships --Nikki 11:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)