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A fictitious [[Artist|artist]] is a person (or group) that does not exist in the real world but is in one way or the other of discographic relevance - e.g. characters from a movie - and therefore exists as a valid artist in the database. The actor, voice actor, or creator that exists in real life isn't directly credited to the releases or track but is linked to the fictional artist through a [[Performance Name Relationship Type|PerformanceNameRelationshipType]].
A fictitious [[Artist|artist]] is a person (or group) that does not exist in the real world but is in one way or the other of discographic relevance - e.g. characters from a movie - and therefore exists as a valid artist in the database. The actor, voice actor, or creator that exists in real life isn't directly credited to the releases or track but is linked to the fictional artist through a [[Performance Name Relationship Type|PerformanceNameRelationshipType]].


This could lead to a chain of charaters such with the members of Spinal Tap; [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/828e6704-4c0e-4406-b211-afbb654ddc20.html Christopher Guest] performs as [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b1d3723a-1546-46f7-8593-2429eadcc530.html Nigel Tufnel] who is a member of [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/d0a0b3a2-ea58-4a7a-b18c-849d589bfac7.html Spinal Tap]. Remember [[Don't Make Relationship Clusters|DontMakeRelationshipClusters]], to avoid potential problems make sure the chain is linear and doesn't take shortcuts; for example, Christopher Guest is not a member of Spinal Tap.
This could lead to a chain of characters such as with the members of Spinal Tap: [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/828e6704-4c0e-4406-b211-afbb654ddc20.html Christopher Guest] performs as [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b1d3723a-1546-46f7-8593-2429eadcc530.html Nigel Tufnel] who is a member of [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/d0a0b3a2-ea58-4a7a-b18c-849d589bfac7.html Spinal Tap]. As stated in [[Don't Make Relationship Clusters|DontMakeRelationshipClusters]], and to avoid potential problems, make sure the chain is linear and doesn't take shortcuts: for example, Christopher Guest is not a member of Spinal Tap.


==List of fictious artists==
==List of fictitious artists==


This page lists artists that are/were in some way fictitious. There is [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-January/010941.html some discussion on the mailing list]. Please add missing artists.
This page lists artists that are/were in some way fictitious. There is [http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-January/010941.html some discussion on the mailing list]. Please add missing artists.
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** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=243768 Noodle]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=243768 Noodle]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=243770 Russel]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=243770 Russel]

* [http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=480755 IM@S ALLSTARS], the nine fictional idols from THE IDOLM@STER, including but not limited to:
** [http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=488616 天海春香]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=488618 星井美希]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=488619 如月千早]


* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=94020 The Muppets]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=94020 The Muppets]
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*** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=277561 Sgt. Floyd Pepper]
*** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=277561 Sgt. Floyd Pepper]
*** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=277559 Zoot]
*** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=277559 Zoot]

* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=8477 The Rutles] parody The Beatles. So far, only 2 of the fictitious band members have MB IDs:
** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=302507 Dirk McQuickly]
** [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=302508 Ron Nasty]
** Stig (or Stiggy) O'Hara
** Barry Wom


* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=214484 Schnappi]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=214484 Schnappi]
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==Discussion==
==Discussion==


The last entry ([http://musicbrainz.org/album/5cca2a84-43d4-4a57-a61c-11adff61862c.html День радио]) is a good example for a special case. How about artists that use different performance names for one album? Are those considered fictitious artists then or just performance names? (Not so important now of course as we don't have any special guidelines) Two similar examples: [http://musicbrainz.org/album/f3e459eb-e17a-4ea9-a8bc-4936301b8c43.html Mick's Tape (Mixed by Cassetteboy)], filled with aliases by Cassetteboy. Or take [http://musicbrainz.org/album/06b0b11b-7e0d-4a67-8092-5f4eece0c9e7.html Sleepingroom, Volume 1] by Schiller. I did not yet convert it to [[Various Artists|VariousArtists]] because I'm not sure about this one. [http://www.schillerfan.de/disco/sleepingroom1.htm The cover] lists this as VA with different [[Track Artist|TrackArtist]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s actually but the tracks are likely to be all done by the same person (I guess to promote his label). --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]]
The entry [[album:5cca2a84-43d4-4a57-a61c-11adff61862c|День радио]] is a good example for a special case. How about artists that use different performance names for one album? Are those considered fictitious artists then or just performance names? (Not so important now of course as we don't have any special guidelines). Two similar examples: [[album:f3e459eb-e17a-4ea9-a8bc-4936301b8c43|Mick's Tape (Mixed by Cassetteboy)]], filled with aliases by Cassetteboy. Or take [[album:06b0b11b-7e0d-4a67-8092-5f4eece0c9e7|Sleepingroom, Volume 1]] by Schiller. I did not yet convert it to [[Various Artists|VariousArtists]] because I'm not sure about this one. [http://www.schillerfan.de/disco/sleepingroom1.htm The cover] lists this as VA with different [[Track Artist|TrackArtist]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s actually but the tracks are likely to be all done by the same person (I guess to promote his label). --[[User:Shepard|Shepard]]


For a general discussion if and how these artists should be used, see [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8058566 edit #8058566]. --[[User:MClemo|MClemo]]
For a general discussion if and how these artists should be used, see [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8058566 edit #8058566]. --[[User:MClemo|MClemo]]


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A fictitious artist is a person (or group) that does not exist in the real world but is in one way or the other of discographic relevance - e.g. characters from a movie - and therefore exists as a valid artist in the database. The actor, voice actor, or creator that exists in real life isn't directly credited to the releases or track but is linked to the fictional artist through a PerformanceNameRelationshipType.

This could lead to a chain of characters such as with the members of Spinal Tap: Christopher Guest performs as Nigel Tufnel who is a member of Spinal Tap. As stated in DontMakeRelationshipClusters, and to avoid potential problems, make sure the chain is linear and doesn't take shortcuts: for example, Christopher Guest is not a member of Spinal Tap.

List of fictitious artists

This page lists artists that are/were in some way fictitious. There is some discussion on the mailing list. Please add missing artists.

(ordered alphabetically)

Discussion

The entry День радио is a good example for a special case. How about artists that use different performance names for one album? Are those considered fictitious artists then or just performance names? (Not so important now of course as we don't have any special guidelines). Two similar examples: Mick's Tape (Mixed by Cassetteboy), filled with aliases by Cassetteboy. Or take Sleepingroom, Volume 1 by Schiller. I did not yet convert it to VariousArtists because I'm not sure about this one. The cover lists this as VA with different TrackArtists actually but the tracks are likely to be all done by the same person (I guess to promote his label). --Shepard

For a general discussion if and how these artists should be used, see edit #8058566. --MClemo

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