History:Instrument Tree/Requests

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Alert.png Status: This is mo writing up a proposal. It is work in progress



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  • additional (This attribute describes if a particular performance role was considered normal or additional.)
  • dissolving (This attribute describes if a particular artist was in the group/collaboration when it was dissolved)
  • founding (This attribute describes if a particular artist was a founding member of this group/collaboration)
  • guest (This attribute indicates a 'guest' performance where the performer is not usually part of the band.)
  • minor (This attribute describes if a particular cooperation was considered equal or minor.)
  • vocal (This attribute describes a type of vocal performance.)
    • Lead (Lead or solo vocal)
      • Alto (Alto)
      • Bass-Baritone (Bass-Baritone)
      • Contralto (Contralto)
      • Baritone (Baritone)
      • Bass (Bass)
      • Contra-tenor (Contra-tenor)
      • Mezzo-soprano (Mezzo-soprano)
      • Soprano (Soprano)
      • Tenor (Tenor)
    • Background (Background vocal)
      • Choir/Chourus (Choir/Chourus)
    • Narrator (Narriator)
      • Reader (Reader)
  • instrument (This attribute describes the possible instruments that can be captured as part of a performance.)
    • Wind instruments (Wind instruments)
      • Woodwind (Woodwind)
        • Double reed (Double reed)
          • Bagpipe (Bagpipe)
          • Bassoon (Bassoon)
          • Contrabassoon (Contrabassoon)
          • English Horn (English Horn)
          • Oboe (Oboe)
        • Singular Reed (Singular Reed)
          • Clarinet (Clarinet )
            • Alto clarinet (Alto clarinet)
            • Bass clarinet (Bass clarinet)
            • Contrabass clarinet (Contrabass clarinet)
          • Flute (Flute )
            • Vertical flute (Vertical flute)
            • Shakuhachi (Japanese end-blown flute (尺八))
            • Ocarina (Ocarina)
            • Pan pipes (Pan pipes)
            • Piccolo (Piccolo)
            • Recorder flute (Recorder flute)
          • Saxophone (Saxophone )
            • Soprano saxophone (Soprano saxophone)
            • Alto saxophone (Alto saxophone)
            • Tenor saxophone (Tenor saxophone)
            • Baritone saxophone (Baritone saxophone)
        • Other (Other woodwind instruments)
          • Bull-roarer (Bull-roarer)
          • Serpent (Serpent)
      • Brass (Brass)
        • Cornet (Cornet)
        • Horn (Horn)
          • Alphorn (Alphorn)
          • Baritone horn (Baritone horn)
          • Flugelhorn (Flugelhorn)
          • French horn (French horn)
          • Tenor Horn (Alto Horn) (Tenor Horn (Alto Horn))
        • 'Trombone (Trombone)
          • Bass Trombone (bass trombone)
          • Sackbut (Sackbut)
        • Trumpet (Trumpet)
        • Tuba (Tuba)
          • Euphonium (Euphonium)
          • Sousaphone (Sousaphone)
          • Wagner tuba (Wagner tuba)
          • Other (Other Brass instruments)
            • Bugle (Bugle)
            • Mellophone (Mellophone)
            • Ophicleide (Ophicleide)
            • Shofar (Shofar)
      • Free reed (Free reed)
        • Accordion (Accordion)
        • Concertina (Concertina)
        • Harmonica (Harmonica)
        • Melodica(Melodica)
        • Sheng (Sheng)
      • Other (Other wind instruments)
        • Conch (Conch shell)
        • Didgeridoo (Didgeridoo)
    • String instruments (String instruments)
      • Bass (Bass)
        • Acoustic upright bass (Acoustic upright bass)
          • Acoustic bass guitar (Acoustic bass guitar)
        • Electric bass guitar (Electric bass guitar)
          • Electric upright bass (Electric upright bass)
      • Guitars (Guitars)
        • Guitar
        • Acoustic guitar (Acoustic guitar)
          • Spanish acoustic guitar (Spanish acoustic guitar)
          • Classical guitar (Classical guitar)
        • Electric Guitar (Electric Guitar)
        • Slide guitar (Slide guitar)
        • Steel guitar (Steel guitar)
      • Harp (Harp)
      • Violins (Violins)
        • Double Bass / Contrabass (Double Bass / Contrabass)
        • Cello (Cello)
        • Fiddle (Fiddle)
        • Violin (Violin)
          • Alto Violin (alto violin)
        • Viola (Viola)
      • Other (Other)
        • Aeolian harp (Aeolian harp)
        • Appalachian Dulcimer (Appalachian Dulcimer)
        • Balalaika (Balalaika)
        • Banjo (Banjo)
        • Berimbau (Berimbau)
        • Biwa (Biwa)
        • Bouzouki (Bouzouki)
        • Mandolin (Mandolin)
        • Musical bow (Musical bow)
        • Crwth (Crwth)
        • Gayageum (Gayageum)
        • Geomungo (Geomungo)
        • Hammered dulcimer (Hammered dulcimer)
        • Hardanger (Hardanger)
        • Hurdy gurdy (Hurdy gurdy)
        • Jew's harp (Jew's harp)
        • Komungo (Komungo)
        • Kora (Kora)
        • Koto (Koto)
        • Lute (Lute)
        • Lyre (Lyre)
        • Mbira (Mbira)
        • Psaltery (Psaltery)
        • Samisen (or shamisen) (Samisen (or shamisen))
        • Sitar (Sitar)
        • Ukulele (Ukulele)
        • Tres (Tres)
        • Vieille (Vieille)
        • Vihuela (Vihuela)
        • Viola da Gamba (Viola da Gamba)
        • Viola d'amore (Viola d'amore)
        • Violotta (Violotta)
        • Washtub bass (Washtub bass)
        • Xalam (or khalam) (Xalam (or khalam))
        • Zither (Zither)
    • Percussion instruments (Percussion instruments)
      • Drums (Drums)
        • Drumset (Drumset)
        • Congas (Congas)
        • Bongos (Bongos)
        • Snare Drum (Snare Drum)
        • Other (Other Drums)
      • Modern percussion (Modern (non-traditional) instruments)
        • Cowbell (Cowbell)
        • Ratchet (Ratchet)
        • Spoons (Spoons)
        • Vibraslap (Vibraslap)
        • Washboard (Washboard)
        • Wood Block (Wood Block)
      • Other (Other percussion instruments)
        • Temple Blocks (Temple Blocks)
        • Orchestral Percussion (Orchestral Percussion)
        • Timbales (Timbales)
        • Triangle (Triangle)
        • Whip (Whip)
      • Latin Percussion (Latin Percussion)
        • Afuche (Afuche)
        • Castanets (Castanets)
        • Claves (Claves)
        • Doyra (Doyra)
        • Güiro (Güiro)
        • Maracas (Maracas)
        • Mendoza (Mendoza)
      • Tuned Percussion (Tuned Percussion)
        • Bells (Bells)
        • Crotales (Crotales)
        • Glockenspiel (Glockenspiel)
        • Marimba (Marimba)
        • Timpani (Timpani)
        • Tubular Bells (Tubular Bells)
        • Vibraphone (Vibraphone)
        • Xylophone (Xylophone)
    • Electronic instruments (Electronic instruments)
      • Denis d'or (Denis d'or)
      • Dubreq Stylophone (Dubreq Stylophone)
      • Drum machine (Drum machine)
      • Ondes Martenot (Ondes Martenot)
      • Sampler (Sampler)
      • Synclavier (Synclavier)
      • Synthesizer (Synthesizer)
      • Teleharmonium (Teleharmonium)
      • Theremin (Theremin)
    • Keyboard instruments (Keyboard instruments)
      • Calliope (Calliope)
      • Clavinet (clavinet)
      • Keyboard (Keyboard)
      • Carillon (Carillon)
      • Celesta (Celesta)
      • Clavichord (Clavichord)
      • Harpsichord (Harpsichord)
      • Mellotron (Mellotron)
      • Organ (Organ )
        • Hammond Organ (Hammond Organ)
        • Harmonium (Harmonium)
        • Pipe organ (Pipe organ)
      • Piano (Piano)
        • Grand Piano (Grand Piano)
        • Rhodes Piano (Rhodes Piano)
        • Upright Piano (Upright Piano)
    • Other instruments (Other instruments)
      • Thai instruments (asked for by mo.)
        • Dàn nguyêt (a two-stringed lute with a circular, flat body, related to the corresponding chinese instrument "moon lute")
        • Dàn tỳ bà (Four-stringed lute with a pear-shaped body. Like the "moon lute", it has greatly elevated frets at the neck.)
      • Hardart (Hardart)
      • Kazoo (Kazoo)
      • Lasso d'amore (Lasso d'amore)
      • Musical Saw (Musical Saw)
      • Singing bowl (Singing bowl)
      • Suikinkutsu (Suikinkutsu (Japanese water zither))


Discussion

Sorry, I do not want to offend or lecture you. However, IMO AttributeTypeTreeRestructure is a bad name in a few ways:

  • The way you use the word "Restructure" seems wrong to me. But we are both no native speakers, so I do not know who is wrong here.
  • The name is not very usable in sentences, should one want to link to this page. The fact that the page is not interwigled at all (it is an orphaned page) only makes me more uncomfortable about it.
  • I do not know what you want this page to be about. So again, maybe the name is not that bad. But the simple fact, that the name does not lead to clear associations, shows that at least it is not good.

Again, I do not wnat to bug you just out of principle. I think you are starting something very important here: Using the wiki for (continual) enhancement of MusicBrainz. The thing is that I would like to find a form of how to do this that is sustainable.

  • It should integrate well into the wikified documentation about the way MusicBrainz currently is.
  • It should still be well integrated, once the change has been adapted (like well documented history).

We need this for more than just restructuring the AttributeTypeTree. I have once thought about something like OpenStyleIssues. And wouls really like to work on this with you. And then, I think it would help if you would just explain in a few sentences what this page actually is about. --DonRedman